Where's the WTA at?

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swedishfish

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They have nothing in whole tobacco alkaloids.

True. It's extracted. I'm still not sure I'm completely clear on the distinction.

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A true cigarette clone is very hard to achieve, to do so you have to use tobacco extracts and not artificial flavoring. Although some may advertise that they sell extracts; unless it has a price of around 50-70$ per 15ml I assure you it is just not possible. We have considered dabbling with the extracts because the taste is unbelievable and you'll know it from the first hit, were just not sure that customers are willing to pay cigar-like prices.

To get an idea of why there is such a premium on an extract consider this... The basic recipe of a cigar consists of three long filler leaves (Ligero, Viso, and Seco), the binder leaf (usually Volado), and finally, the wrapper leaf, which is also the most expensive of the leaves and the price on that cigar depending on a few variables can reach 15+$, guess how many leaves it takes to make a 2oz bottle of legit flavoring. Now factor in the cost of the extraction, preparation and proper mixing process, licensing costs...

I assure you if our market get's to the point cigars are at your looking at a whole new world in vaping. Customers just are not ready to spend large amounts of money on juice yet, after all this is supposed to be a cheaper alternative (sometimes). Although some consumers would spend the money on premium juice the majority would not.

At Titan Vapors we are going to try offering extracts in the coming weeks however it's going to be at a very limited quantity at first to test the market, if it sells out fast we'll continue moving in this direction.
 

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I'm not particularly, but thanks for posting that. When I say I'm not interested, I'm not personally interested in trying WTA. I have read all the threads, well because I read everything. :lol: Besides, Rolly has a big sticky regarding WTA's.

If someone says they are having problems making the transition from smoking to vaping or can't find a realistic tobacco juice, I pass the link along. It's an option.
 

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Aroma has it in stock at the moment

Whole Tobacco Alkaloid WTA Eliquid Ejuice

Can't say how long it will stay in stock as the supply is still spotty


yeah... no.

They only have it available in 10ml of 12mg "Mad Matador", which supposedly tastes like Red Bull (gag), and 12mg may as well be nicotine-free for me. I need at least 24mg nicotine or just flavorless WTA concentrate that I can mix into any flavor juice that I already have at home.
 

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I prefer vaping WTA straight, without any flavor, though I'm a flavor hog with straight juice and rotate through at least 12 different flavors every day. I vape 24mg juice, though WTA is a little different to straight juice, the effects are quite strong before 24 though I haven't vaped it enough in defined strengths to know where that satisfaction is. Part of it may also be the need to vape high mg of nic because we're not getting the additional physiological experiences of the other alkaloids so we ramp up the nic, which speeds us up but doesn't satiate. WTA tends to calm me down and I always vape some before bed, (some of it to counter the amount of 24mg I've vaped on the whole day).

yeah... no.

They only have it available in 10ml of 12mg "Mad Matador", which supposedly tastes like Red Bull (gag), and 12mg may as well be nicotine-free for me. I need at least 24mg nicotine or just flavorless WTA concentrate that I can mix into any flavor juice that I already have at home.
 

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yeah... no.

They only have it available in 10ml of 12mg "Mad Matador", which supposedly tastes like Red Bull (gag), and 12mg may as well be nicotine-free for me. I need at least 24mg nicotine or just flavorless WTA concentrate that I can mix into any flavor juice that I already have at home.

There are 5 different flavors up at the moment and they do have the 24 mg. You may want to keep track of the Aroma forum as Jerry keeps up to date on what and when WTA will be available.

Aroma Ejuice
 

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