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Iusedtoanalog

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Hey clouds, do you do stiff draws(lots of suction) or do you use lighter draws(less suction)? The reason I ask is because I am a lighter draw, re-taught myself draw style way back when the first version of the eGo-t tanks came out..... they would flood bad if you draw too hard. My wife on the other hand began vaping after I had given up on the "t" system with cartomizers and retained her stiff draw. She complains about flooding with almost all versions of the bottom coil devices(protank, evod,t3) and I cant make them flood...... Just trying to fit some pieces of the puzzle in place......
 
I've seen people on the forums refer to the BCC class (EVOD included) as "cooler vapes" but I'd prefer to say "smoother" - just my opinion, of course, as the juice and other factors will dictate the experience as well. Resistance and other setup options apply, too, but as much as I experiment with them I think there is just a straight up difference between top- and bottom-coil attys, so I think you'll need to decide that for yourself, then tune-in from there to find your favorite combo(s). I ended up choosing "both" and switch atty setups back and forth as my mood/taste dictates.

...and yeah, sorry if that last part's not much help!

Only a couple months into the experience, but no analogs since - if these are our toughest choices, we're all good :)
 

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Haven't invested in an Evod yet, though I do have several T3s and a couple protanks. Only difference I hear would be the draw on the Evod atomizer head is tighter, and the heads can be put into a protank making less airy and a bit tighter draw. The benefits of the bottom coil clearos I have seen is being bottom coil you don't have to worry about tilting constantly to get the wicks wet, just keep it in a general up/down position vape away. Downside, when they get low on juice they tend to pull more liquid in an gurgle, or leak, needing to be blown out and the tank topped off. Pretty easy maintenance, rinse out the tank, rinse the coil head thorougly with hot water, let dry, then dry burn gunk off the coil, refill, slap back together, off you go again. With the Nova you'd have to tilt it upside down every couple draws once the liquid is below the wicks like any top coil setup. As stated above, the variable volt from the start is a good way to get in, can dial in your prefered taste experience and be happier for it. So either the Spinners with the Nova or Evod would be a good place to start, just have to ask yourself, warmer draw go with the Nova or top coil, cooler draw go with the Evod or bottom coil. hth
 

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http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?pag...color_plus.tpl&product_id=1593&category_id=54

Spinner and T3 or Spinner and eVod--same thing, really. Great deal and great gear--I use those batteries and heads myself and love them.

Not a fan of ViVi Nova. If you want to try it, go ahead and get a mini Vision Vivi Nova to try. I don't care for the top coil design and I don't like to have to constantly tip the battery upside down to ensure proper saturation of the wicks and coil. But that's just my personal preference--other folks like the Novas. Try them all! :D

Good luck and happy vaping.
 

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Hey clouds, do you do stiff draws(lots of suction) or do you use lighter draws(less suction)? The reason I ask is because I am a lighter draw, re-taught myself draw style way back when the first version of the eGo-t tanks came out..... they would flood bad if you draw too hard. My wife on the other hand began vaping after I had given up on the "t" system with cartomizers and retained her stiff draw. She complains about flooding with almost all versions of the bottom coil devices(protank, evod,t3) and I cant make them flood...... Just trying to fit some pieces of the puzzle in place......

There are a few things you need to remember when using a T3 or an eVod or a ProTank:

1) Make sure that the atomizer coil is screwed into the base tightly--they often come not fully tightened from the manufacturer, or may have gotten loose through repeated refills.

2) Look at all the inner seals and gaskets to make sure they haven't become dislodged.

3) Make sure that you screw the tank into the base tightly. If it's not tight, it may leak.

4) When you screw your clearomizer into your battery, do not overtighten--screw it in only until it makes contact--no farther, or you may push the center post in too deep and cause all kinds of problems, including leaking. When the draw becomes tight or the taste and vapor production begin to diminish, replace the coil. This will happen sooner (even as soon as one day of heavy use) if you're using dark, viscous, or very sweet juices. The old coil can be cleaned and dry burned.

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5) Make sure you're not getting juice in the center tube when you're filling--this will cause your eVod to leak like a sieve. If some juice gets into the tube, close the top cap and blow gently through the clearomizer to get rid of any excess eliquid.
 

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I've seen people on the forums refer to the BCC class (EVOD included) as "cooler vapes" but I'd prefer to say "smoother" - just my opinion, of course, as the juice and other factors will dictate the experience as well. Resistance and other setup options apply, too, but as much as I experiment with them I think there is just a straight up difference between top- and bottom-coil attys, so I think you'll need to decide that for yourself, then tune-in from there to find your favorite combo(s). I ended up choosing "both" and switch atty setups back and forth as my mood/taste dictates.

...and yeah, sorry if that last part's not much help!

Only a couple months into the experience, but no analogs since - if these are our toughest choices, we're all good :)

The BCC clearomizers feel 'cooler" because the heating coil is on the bottom of the unit. With the top coil design, your lips are practially touching the heating coil, hence the perception of a warmer vape. :D
 

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Yes to your question, to tight a pull will pull more liquid into the coil cup and tube, thus flooding it, so she will have to retrain her inhale technique to long, light, steady pulls, maybe doing a double inhale during the firing sequence for as long as the time out is on the battery, 5-10 seconds. I'm a pretty newbish vaper with tanks but learned this real early my first T3 I bought, was constantly having to remove, blow it out, and re-go at it.
 
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Hi

I'm surprised I don't see a link to this kit (sorry if it was posted and I missed it) authentic Joyetech Twists or Vision Spinners or one of each. EVODs are clearo options.

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm

Buy something else to get the order up to $75.00 and you get free shipping. Their Protank price is a little high, but not outrageous if you're trying to buy everything from one vendor.

One of these coupons is probably good: http://www.retailmenot.com/view/myvaporstore.com
 
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Hi

I'm surprised I don't see a link to this kit (sorry if it was posted and I missed it) authentic Joyetech Twists or Vision Spinners or one of each. EVODs are clearo options.

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm

Buy something else to get the order up to $75.00 and you get free shipping. Their Protank price is a little high, but not outrageous if you're trying to buy everything from one vendor.

One of these coupons is probably good: http://www.retailmenot.com/view/myvaporstore.com


I didn't see this one... Thanks for the link, although I think I am going to stick with the spinner/evod I originally chose. I do think I am going to order a mini vivi tank as well though, just to try it.

Another question....
How long do the batteries usually last and what about the coils, how often do those need changed? Ok, so it was 2 questions! :p
 

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I didn't see this one...
Another question....
How long do the batteries usually last and what about the coils, how often do those need changed? Ok, so it was 2 questions! :p

As far as batteries lasting, The general rule of thumb is 100mAh=1hour...... But with the voltage boosted high on a twist or spinner, your mileage may be less than that from fully charged to depleted. I haven't used a twist in many months, so going from memory, I remember being able to get 3.5-4.5 hours of fairly heavy use from a 650mAh twist at higher voltage..... Now if your question is in reference to when will the battery need to be replaced..... The general rule there is you will begin to notice a change in runtime beginning above 300 charge cycles. I still have four out of six eGo clone batteries that charge and will perform at about 75% of their like new runtimes. These are all just over 2 years old...... These are also all out on loan to newer vapers currently as backups. It really comes down to how you treat them, frequent dropping will certainly shorten their lifespan. I have repaired a few of the ones in my arsenal from broken wiring, buttons falling out etc...

Onto the coils question. For the bottom coil clearos (t3/evod/protank), I typically use about 6-8ml per day of liquid(which is on the higher side). I typically do a rinse and dry burn, with the center tube and cover wicks removed, when I notice a change in performance(which is every few days ~2 or so). I can normally get about ten to fifteen days of use before the coil is beyond useable( so about 100ml would be my personal average). Being a newer vaper it would be a good idea to pick up a couple spare coils so you have peace of mind at minimum. They can and do get strange from time to time , but for the most part they are fairly stout, reliable clearos. Let us know how you make out when you do get them up and running. Happy Vaping.
 

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As far as batteries lasting, The general rule of thumb is 100mAh=1hour...... But with the voltage boosted high on a twist or spinner, your mileage may be less than that from fully charged to depleted. I haven't used a twist in many months, so going from memory, I remember being able to get 3.5-4.5 hours of fairly heavy use from a 650mAh twist at higher voltage..... Now if your question is in reference to when will the battery need to be replaced..... The general rule there is you will begin to notice a change in runtime beginning above 300 charge cycles. I still have four out of six eGo clone batteries that charge and will perform at about 75% of their like new runtimes. These are all just over 2 years old...... These are also all out on loan to newer vapers currently as backups. It really comes down to how you treat them, frequent dropping will certainly shorten their lifespan. I have repaired a few of the ones in my arsenal from broken wiring, buttons falling out etc...

Onto the coils question. For the bottom coil clearos (t3/evod/protank), I typically use about 6-8ml per day of liquid(which is on the higher side). I typically do a rinse and dry burn, with the center tube and cover wicks removed, when I notice a change in performance(which is every few days ~2 or so). I can normally get about ten to fifteen days of use before the coil is beyond useable( so about 100ml would be my personal average). Being a newer vaper it would be a good idea to pick up a couple spare coils so you have peace of mind at minimum. They can and do get strange from time to time , but for the most part they are fairly stout, reliable clearos. Let us know how you make out when you do get them up and running. Happy Vaping.

Thank you so much! Very helpful info! :)
 
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