WholeCig.com pre-opening "the WC" tobacco flavor WTA + products COMING SOON!

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Mr.Mann

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Mr.Mann - "So you vape at less than 25 mg?" - faulty conclusion -- how can a question be a conclusion?

Mr.Mann - "I get it--so you would want to have the mixes already added to," - a conclusion for which I don't understand the author's meaning--yeah, that didn't make sense. My bad. I was trying to type and put a baby to sleep.

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I am not going to go there and mess this thread up. CB, I was just trying to understand what you wanted and what your target nic levels were.
 
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Mr.Mann - "So you vape at less than 25 mg?" - faulty conclusion -- how can a question be a conclusion?

...by beginning with a word indicative of conclusion (if not dismissal).

Cool_Breeze - "Is there a future possibility of concentrated WTA that can be reasonably mixed down by half or more?"

Possibly an incomplete thought by the poster? Obviously there already exists, in the present, a "concentrated WTA that can be reasonably mixed down by half or more." Are you saying you want to buy this? See, I guess sometimes we post and don't always convey as clearly as we thought we did.

Mr.Mann, if, in this awkward conversation, you are indicating there exists 24-25 mg/ml WTA (exclusive of nicotine) then, I am short-sided. If there is 24-25 mg/ml unflavored eliquid of which the 24-25 mg/ml consists of approximately 95% nicotine and 5% WTA, then I rest on my initial statement which included reference to my preference for 25 mg/ml. Yes, if you cherry pick, and leave out the context of 25 mg/ml, it does seem a bit odd.
 
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Well, my good news is that the WTA is safely in my paws. Yea! It was very fast shipping. Alas, the building I own a unit in, has the most bad attitude "security guards" and they have the keys to lockers for stuff too big to shove in the individual mailboxes. Trying to find one of these lazy sods at any given time is like tripping over the holy grail. However, I DID finally track and hunt one of the blighters down, and I finally got my package of unflavored WTA. Whoohoo. As many of you already know, I won a red Provari from supporting members forum here on ECF (and if you didn't know that, then yes, I'm bragging). However I really needed a 510/eGo adapter which has also since arrived and similarly wrested from the "management". So I hope to be enjoying myself tonight for sure. :D
 
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I believe it's 25 mg WTA, with no nicotine CB. That's why Mr M was calculating the addition of nic added liquid, which would subsequently would pull down the WTA to 17mg net.

Mr.Mann - "So you vape at less than 25 mg?" - faulty conclusion -- how can a question be a conclusion?

...by beginning with a word indicative of conclusion (if not dismissal).



Mr.Mann, if, in this awkward conversation, you are indicating there exists 24-25 mg/ml WTA (exclusive of nicotine) then, I am short-sided. If there is 24-25 mg/ml unflavored eliquid of which the 24-25 mg/ml consists of approximately 95% nicotine and 5% WTA, then I rest on my initial statement which included reference to my preference for 25 mg/ml. Yes, if you cherry pick, and leave out the context of 25 mg/ml, it does seem a bit odd.
 

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I wonder when the next batch is going to be offered up. I did some experimenting with my last bottle and I think I went too far. I would love to be optimistic about my bottle, but all I see is empty space and the more I vape of it, the more space I see. I hate adding to empty space. Oh bother.
 

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I wonder when the next batch is going to be offered up. I did some experimenting with my last bottle and I think I went too far. I would love to be optimistic about my bottle, but all I see is empty space and the more I vape of it, the more space I see. I hate adding to empty space. Oh bother.


Maybe tomorrow? :toast:
 

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I believe it's 25 mg WTA, with no nicotine CB. That's why Mr M was calculating the addition of nic added liquid, which would subsequently would pull down the WTA to 17mg net.

Now I'm lost. I thought 25mg was the nic content and WTA was included as __% (don't remember) of the nic content. I believe that's the way Aroma Ejuice calculates it - 25mg with 10% alkaloids "infused" (whatever that means).

So was I supposed to add this to current juices? Did I misunderstand by thinking I could vape it straight? I'm going to be waiting for comments to this one.
 

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aikanae1 - If it is as per the wholecig website header, it is 95% nicotine and 5% WTA combined to make 17 or 25 mg/ml depending upon strength selection and/or flavoring. If my math is correct, that's about 1.25 mg/ml of WTA and 23.75 mg/ml of nicotine in a total 25 mg/ml eliquid. It may be that I missed something. I suspect you cold vape it straight if you can vape other 25 mg/ml (nicotine) eliquids. The marketing department may offer other descriptions.
 

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Now I'm lost. I thought 25mg was the nic content and WTA was included as __% (don't remember) of the nic content. I believe that's the way Aroma Ejuice calculates it - 25mg with 10% alkaloids "infused" (whatever that means).

So was I supposed to add this to current juices? Did I misunderstand by thinking I could vape it straight? I'm going to be waiting for comments to this one.

You and me both! I'm confused too. I got my WTA today and am vaping it naked. Tried adding a couple of sweetener drops to it, but must not have been enough. It is so thick. I bought mine thinking I could add some drops to existing nic juices to enhance/improve them. I don't want to use 5ml or 10ml of unflavored WTA to get to a certain % level. If that's the case, I'll just keep it on hand until I can figure out what to do with it. I have to say, I don't care for it by itself :). I feel like I'm vaping heated plastic because it's so thick and the draw is so hard.
 

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If having wicking problems with VG, you could use distilled water to thin VG. If it tastes like plastic, maybe the VG isn't wicking well enough? What type of delivery device are you using? It's not even as thick as BWB's Malty and that's 70% VG, but VG can be hard to wick in certain set-ups. I have no such problem.

aikanae1 - If it is as per the wholecig website header, it is 95% nicotine and 5% WTA combined to make 17 or 25 mg/ml depending upon strength selection and/or flavoring. If my math is correct, that's about 1.25 mg/ml of WTA and 23.75 mg/ml of nicotine in a total 25 mg/ml eliquid. It may be that I missed something. I suspect you cold vape it straight if you can vape other 25 mg/ml (nicotine) eliquids...

This.
 
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I understand it then. I'm trying it naked too. It does have an unusual flavor and I'm not vaping just that. I'm using a simple vivi nova (actually a clone through FT) at about 4.4 volts with a Vamo. I've seen thicker juices. I may add a couple drops of distilled water if I run into problems, but none so far.

I need to give it more time and focus for any kind of review. I'm too distracted now.
 

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I'm vaping with a Nano (what I use for new, untested juices) on low voltages on a Provari. If I go higher than 3.4v, I can't stand the taste. I won't use a 1.6 or larger clearo to test taste new juices. Nanos give great vapor and give me a good idea if I want to change over to a larger clearo :).
 

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For those having trouble with the thickness, I would add a few drops of distilled water and shake. I mixed it at the low end for water at 5% (totally new to VG only mixing) and it does strike me as somewhat thick also, but I've had no trouble vaping it, so I didn't dilute the VG further...maybe I'll try 7% distilled water on the next batch...we aim to please. :)
 

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Okay, MISTER Mann, :)tongue:)

Looks like your
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is working!

I'm vaping Wholecig's unflavored WTA (between 12 and 25 mg-diluted with 0mg VG or PG) on a VV REO Grand. I use low res and standard boge cartos and usually run my mod around 4V, so somewhere from 10-14 watts.

The throat hit is amazing every single time, and I personally like the understated, naturally sweet 'flavor' of their VG base.
There is nothing to detract or distract my attention and enjoyment from the unadulterated WTA liquid itself.
Based on my experience with Wholecig unflavored WTA, I find myself having EXTREME difficulty returning to (even my favorite) NETs and have completely abandoned any hope of returning to arti-baccos minus WTA.
This juice is absolutely lovely.

Until now, I never bought into the notion of the elusive 'all day vape.'
At this point, I honestly feel that if I cannot vape WC WTA, I may just ween myself from vaping altogether.

Jfresh, any chance you could introduce 'housework with WTA' or 'exercise with WTA' next?

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Okay, MISTER Mann, :)tongue:)

Looks like your
Trollspray.jpg
is working!

I'm vaping Wholecig's unflavored WTA (between 12 and 25 mg-diluted with 0mg VG or PG) on a VV REO Grand. I use low res and standard boge cartos and usually run my mod around 4V, so somewhere from 10-14 watts.

The throat hit is amazing every single time, and I personally like the understated, naturally sweet 'flavor' of their VG base.
There is nothing to detract or distract my attention and enjoyment from the unadulterated WTA liquid itself.
Based on my experience with Wholecig unflavored WTA, I find myself having EXTREME difficulty returning to (even my favorite) NETs and have completely abandoned any hope of returning to arti-baccos minus WTA.
This juice is absolutely lovely.

Until now, I never bought into the notion of the elusive 'all day vape.'
At this point, I honestly feel that if I cannot vape WC WTA, I may just ween myself from vaping altogether.

Jfresh, any chance you could introduce 'housework with WTA' or 'exercise with WTA' next?

wc_zps694bca6d.jpg

Reblogging this meme...our first meme...ah...:2cool:
 
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