WholeCig.com pre-opening "the WC" tobacco flavor WTA + products COMING SOON!

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I'm really glad that this group is kind and considerate. I was about a half hour late getting in and was afraid that a person might wipe out the entire stock. I so appreciate that! Anyone here, I will have your back :).

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Mr. Mann, does one add a few drops of unflavored WTA to a bottle or tank, or is it so many ml per ml of flavored juice? I'm wanting to 'enhance' existing juices that I have on hand.

I know it's on the website and I posted about it a few times already, but I just wanted to say that what everyone is ordering is WTA + VG only, not WTA + nic + VG. When you buy a 25 mg juice, that is VG and all WTA (WTA: around 95% nicotine and around 5% other minor alkaloids extracted as a unit). There is not the "same amount" of minor alkaloids in the 17 mg and 25 mg bottle, but the composition is the same (roughly 95/5). If you want to cut it down or make it last longer, you can add your naked VG WTA to all VG, or to a 0 mg juice; of course, that also means your 25 mg will decrease depending on how much other liquid you add. If you add it to a juice with nic already in it, it won't be bad, but you will be increasing the nic content of the WTA thus altering the composition (ex. 96/4, 97/3, 98/2 etc.). Considering that all previously sold WTA (from others) has been nic + WTA, that's what most of us were used to, so it won't be abnormal if added to pre-nic'ed juice. Just know that what you are buying is a pretty good deal considering it's not cut. Adding it to your nic juice will be fine, but the flavor of your juice will diminish a little bit and the nic to other minor alkaloids ratio will be skewed, but not to say ineffective..

Maybe JFresh can crunch some numbers for you?

But to answer your question, you can add it to a pre-existing juice with no nic, a pre-exisitng juice with nic, straight VG, or PG/VG, or you can do what I do, and what is suggested, and vape that bad boy straight as it is. ;) I think you should try the WTA naked (unflavored) first and then go from there.
 
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I know it's on the website and I posted about it a few times already, but I just wanted to say that what everyone is ordering is WTA + VG only, not WTA + nic + VG. When you buy a 25 mg juice, that is VG and all WTA (WTA: around 95% nicotine and around 5% other minor alkaloids extracted as a unit). There is not the "same amount" of minor alkaloids in the 17 mg and 25 mg bottle, but the composition is the same (roughly 95/5). If you want to cut it down or make it last longer, you can add your naked VG WTA to all VG, or to a 0 mg juice; of course, that also means your 25 mg will decrease depending on how much other liquid you add. If you add it to a juice with nic already in it, it won't be bad, but you will be increasing the nic content of the WTA thus altering the composition (ex. 96/4, 97/3, 98/2 etc.). Considering that all previously sold WTA (from others) has been nic + WTA, that's what most of us were used to, so it won't be abnormal if added to pre-nic'ed juice. Just know that what you are buying is a pretty good deal considering it's not cut. Adding it to your nic juice will be fine, but the flavor of your juice will diminish a little bit and the nic to other minor alkaloids ratio will be skewed, but not to say ineffective..

Maybe JFresh can crunch some numbers for you?

But to answer your question, you can add it to a pre-existing juice with no nic, a pre-exisitng juice with nic, straight VG, or PG/VG, or you can do what I do, and what is suggested, and vape that bad boy straight as it is. ;) I think you should try the WTA naked (unflavored) first and then go from there.

I've read this very slowly about 3 times and am not sure I understand. The last thing I want to do is alter the composition. I need to read this again tomorrow after I've had some sleep :). Thank you for the explanation.
 

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I've read this very slowly about 3 times and am not sure I understand. The last thing I want to do is alter the composition. I need to read this again tomorrow after I've had some sleep :). Thank you for the explanation.

I was afraid that wouldn't make sense. :blush: The main point is that you should try it as is, and then see how it changes your other juice (if that's what you decide to do). If you like it either way, roll with it. The thing that matters most is whether it works better for you in a particular set-up.

I add mine to nic juice, but I mostly vape it straight. Vaping it straight is what I believe to be the most unadulterated way to experience WTA. YMMV

I have a friend that added her unflavored WTA, a few drops at a time, to her other juices--she says it works like a charm! It also makes her bottle of the WTA DIY last a really long time.

There's two ways of looking at it: 1) if adding it to a nic juice, you WILL be "enhancing" that juice or 2) you will be minimizing the WTA. It's all in how you look at it.

Did I make even less sense this time? LOL
 
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Thanks again Mr. Mann, for the excellent explanation. Nothing I could add to that...except a good DIY calculator, which I'm looking into getting set up on the site, as well as 30ml bottles of VG so you can dial in your perfect level. I'm not a good judge of the relative strength of our 25ml...I vape it all day as is...and I'm on the far end of the spectrum as a smoker from age 12, nearly thirty years PAD of the old American Spirit blues.

I'll join you, Mr. Mann, in encouraging everyone to try it unflavored...either as is, or slightly diluted with VG (if you say, were a 24mg vaper with nic only, this may strike you as too strong...easy to fix...and cheap!) I have an informed hunch that while flavors may not affect nicotine to a noticeable degree in other e-liquid, the minor alkaloids do not seem to fare as well when competing with other substances on the atomizer head. Just a theory so far, but since clued onto this amazingly simple e-liquid formulation (ty MM) my own experience validates it, and it is just really good unflavored, regardless! I probably vape 4-5 ml a day...it's a good thing I manufacture it! :laugh:
 
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