Who's not scared??
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Well, I do find myself stockpiling a bit. If it happens, I'll be prepared. If it doesn't, I will be well-stocked for awhile. Either way, I don't lose. 
I'm not. I'm not a hoarder but I do have quite a bit of juice due to a recent shopping spree but I'm not buying up MOD's & other equipment incase the ecig police come & lock everything down. I'm just not worried in that way. This is America so any item that has the opportunity to bring in $$ will be around for a while. I believe they want a way to regulate & get their hands in the cookie jar. If worse comes to worse i guess I'll have to place a couple of orders & learn how to mix my own juice.
I'm not scared.
I have quite the collection of APVs now. All I need to keep 'em going are batteries, which won't be banned or taxed.
I also have a ton of RBAs. Wire will still be sold.
I DIY my juices, so the only thing I could possibly be worried about is nic. And I'm down to 1mg, and working some 0mg into my diet (night vapes!).
All that being said, I still think the FDA won't ban anything. They might tax the crap out of it, and regulate some things, which could drive some vendors out of business. But for the most part, I think the ecig industry can survive whatever the FDA throws at it.
I mean, c'mon... We're vapers. We grow. We adapt. We overcome.
I have quite the collection of APVs now. All I need to keep 'em going are batteries, which won't be banned or taxed.
I also have a ton of RBAs. Wire will still be sold.
I DIY my juices, so the only thing I could possibly be worried about is nic. And I'm down to 1mg, and working some 0mg into my diet (night vapes!).
All that being said, I still think the FDA won't ban anything. They might tax the crap out of it, and regulate some things, which could drive some vendors out of business. But for the most part, I think the ecig industry can survive whatever the FDA throws at it.
I mean, c'mon... We're vapers. We grow. We adapt. We overcome.
Afraid? No. Concerned? Some.
I fear that there are some vaper's out there stocking up the equivalent of a 15 year supply of Cheez Whiz and buying a gas powered refrigerator ala that whole y2k hysteria thing that never happened. But e-cigs's are entrenched enough in the market that I really don't think there is any way for an extreme "pull the plug" option to occur. For lot's of reasons that have already been covered.
I fear that there are some vaper's out there stocking up the equivalent of a 15 year supply of Cheez Whiz and buying a gas powered refrigerator ala that whole y2k hysteria thing that never happened. But e-cigs's are entrenched enough in the market that I really don't think there is any way for an extreme "pull the plug" option to occur. For lot's of reasons that have already been covered.
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Only thing I'm afraid of is the taxes. See, I've already paid thousands upon thousands of dollars in extortion (tobacco taxes) over the last 20 years since I first became a smoker. It truth, it only costs a few cents to manufacture a pack of cigarettes, and the majority of the purchase price is all taxes. I've paid in enough....we all have. Now, a habit that used to cost my wife and I in excess of $400 a month, nearly all of that going to taxes, now costs us about $30 a month. What's left over can go into stimulating the local economy, not lining the coffers of the state ran slush funds or whatever else they do with all that "guilt" money.
I plan to have enough on hand so that when the taxes catch up to this hobby, I will still get to keep my money and enjoy my "vice" too.
They don't over-tax/extort fast food, soft drinks, candy, or lots of other things that make people horribly unhealthy.... But smokers have been footing the bill for far too long.
I plan to have enough on hand so that when the taxes catch up to this hobby, I will still get to keep my money and enjoy my "vice" too.
They don't over-tax/extort fast food, soft drinks, candy, or lots of other things that make people horribly unhealthy.... But smokers have been footing the bill for far too long.
My main concern is that the FDA will do everything in their power to make this industry less attractive to those looking to make the switch.
I worry about the smokers who will stumble upon vaping in a year or so and have a hard time doing what we're all doing now with ease.
This industry is saving lives. Why any health organization would want to impede or halt that is ... well, stupid.
I said it. It's stupid!
I worry about the smokers who will stumble upon vaping in a year or so and have a hard time doing what we're all doing now with ease.
This industry is saving lives. Why any health organization would want to impede or halt that is ... well, stupid.
I said it. It's stupid!
I'm pretty cynical of the government. I mean, in NYC they have restricted the quantity of soda that restuarants may sell to individual customers, all in the name of fighting obesity. I don't have a dog in that fight myself, but if the government can do something like that, they can do something even worse with e-cigarettes because of the natural bad stigma of anything having to do with "cigarettes" without much public outcry from the general population.
The FDA gets its plates filled by lobbyists from Big Pharmaceutical and they have the most to lose from unrestricted e-cigarette and e-liquid sales. That group will do whatever they can to encourage the FDA set up the toughest restrictions they can.
As suspicious as I was about Big Tobacco getting involved, I'm now feeling they are more on our side of the fence. Both Blu and NJoy are both owned by tobacco companies and those two companies have a large investment in e-cigs now. Their budgets and lobbyists may be assisting our side in the battle. But market-wise I don't see the tobacco companies going any deeper into the e-cig market than the cigalikes, possibly into the eGo size systems down the road. The quick money with minimal overhead is in the beginner/mid-level market. I don't think they will get involved with the advanced PV's for quite some time. Mod's cost more money to design and manufacture.
Batteries, chargers, wire, and mesh are items that should always be available as they are used for other purposes than in our hobby.
I have 3 VV and 2 mechanical mods, over a dozen cartotanks, and one RBA. I've got about 2 months supply of cartomizers. I'm a little concerned about the future supply of cartomizers and other delivery devices should people panic and stock up/hoard these. If some vendors are not able to exist financially because of future restrictions, availability of disposable juice carrying devices might become sparse. That's once reason to be familiar with rebuildables.
I probably had a couple of month's worth of flavored e-liquid, and just ordered about $160 worth from my favorite vendor tonight. I did have a $25 gift certificate thanks to another ECG member who made a trade with me for some juice, so that helped soften the blow a little bit.
Anyone should be able to make their own eliquid if worse comes to worse. PG and VG are common pharmaceutical items not needing a prescription. Nicotine is going to be the really tough one. Hopefully it will only be regulated (and taxed) and not banned outright. I'm down from 24mg to 12mg nicotine at present; if I had to I might be able to get by without nicotine as long as I can still vape 0 nicotine liquid.
It scares me that e-cig use has been banned in places like Singapore, nicotine e-liquid has been banned in Canada, and have been banned in some counties here in the USA.
The FDA gets its plates filled by lobbyists from Big Pharmaceutical and they have the most to lose from unrestricted e-cigarette and e-liquid sales. That group will do whatever they can to encourage the FDA set up the toughest restrictions they can.
As suspicious as I was about Big Tobacco getting involved, I'm now feeling they are more on our side of the fence. Both Blu and NJoy are both owned by tobacco companies and those two companies have a large investment in e-cigs now. Their budgets and lobbyists may be assisting our side in the battle. But market-wise I don't see the tobacco companies going any deeper into the e-cig market than the cigalikes, possibly into the eGo size systems down the road. The quick money with minimal overhead is in the beginner/mid-level market. I don't think they will get involved with the advanced PV's for quite some time. Mod's cost more money to design and manufacture.
Batteries, chargers, wire, and mesh are items that should always be available as they are used for other purposes than in our hobby.
I have 3 VV and 2 mechanical mods, over a dozen cartotanks, and one RBA. I've got about 2 months supply of cartomizers. I'm a little concerned about the future supply of cartomizers and other delivery devices should people panic and stock up/hoard these. If some vendors are not able to exist financially because of future restrictions, availability of disposable juice carrying devices might become sparse. That's once reason to be familiar with rebuildables.
I probably had a couple of month's worth of flavored e-liquid, and just ordered about $160 worth from my favorite vendor tonight. I did have a $25 gift certificate thanks to another ECG member who made a trade with me for some juice, so that helped soften the blow a little bit.
Anyone should be able to make their own eliquid if worse comes to worse. PG and VG are common pharmaceutical items not needing a prescription. Nicotine is going to be the really tough one. Hopefully it will only be regulated (and taxed) and not banned outright. I'm down from 24mg to 12mg nicotine at present; if I had to I might be able to get by without nicotine as long as I can still vape 0 nicotine liquid.
It scares me that e-cig use has been banned in places like Singapore, nicotine e-liquid has been banned in Canada, and have been banned in some counties here in the USA.
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I'm with you there lol, just getting into diy because of this, and it will save me money. But I've got quite the collection going lol. If it happens i will also be prepared at least for a little while =)
Well, I do find myself stockpiling a bit. If it happens, I'll be prepared. If it doesn't, I will be well-stocked for awhile. Either way, I don't lose.
I so agree! What idiot would want to stop something that has saved so many lives! The way i see it sometimes, they want us smoking. Tobacco is losing a ton of revenue and people are getting healthier which intrudes on the medical industry. I hate the think like that, but I find it hard not to at times. Sad but i fear maybe it's true =(
lol, possibly not a pull the plug type situation, but they could tax the hell out of it, making it no longer affordable to me. That's my biggest fear.
I feel like its going to be hard for them to shut off nicotine liquid. Even if they start taxing ecig sales it will be difficult to control all the juicemakers. I hope i get to do this a few years at least. Tried a puff on an analog after 6 months off and it was horrid, so i know now, at least i wont be going back.
What?? Dang it.. should I return the cheez whiz or the gas powered fridge.. hmmm... LOL
I'm not that bad. I do have a goodly stock of DIY supplies, but I was doing that regardless. When I smoked, I bought 4 cartons every 2 weeks for about 3 months.. then didn't buy more for a few months.. Kept that mentality, just not the smokes!!
not scared...they won't ban it. they want thier $$$$, so they will scream regulation. tax, tax, tax. I have a few ego batteries, btanks, and my new fave clearos...oh! and my trusty KR808 & carts...I don't have a huge amt of juice but have easy access. I will be calling representatives & voicing my opinion. I just don't see them locking this stuff down but I do see them foaming at the mouth for money. follow the $$$, It's all about the benjamins!
Not even a bit scared.
Vaping 0nic DIY juice is still funner than smoking.
FDA, BT & the ANTZ can all get bent.
But I do have 2000ml+ of nic base, just in case.
Vaping 0nic DIY juice is still funner than smoking.
FDA, BT & the ANTZ can all get bent.
But I do have 2000ml+ of nic base, just in case.
Not even a bit scared.
Vaping 0nic DIY juice is still funner than smoking.
FDA, BT & the ANTZ can all get bent.
But I do have 2000ml+ of nic base, just in case.
I agree completely on this.... 'Bout the only thing needed to be prepared is a large supply of nic juice. They will no doubt tax the hell out of it eventually. Everything else will still be available...
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