Why am I disappointed with my Provari

[Gone Digital]

Hi gang
After reading all the Provari hype, I bit the bullet and bought a mini. I was quite impressed with the look and feel.
I have been using protank minis with it and have to say I'm not impressed... Why??
On my vamo v5 I get great clouds and excellent flavour, but on the provari my flavour is muted, less smoke. I have played around with the voltage and found a reasonable setting of 3.5 - 3.7 volts on a 2.1 atty in my protank.
Any advise please.

 

[porkchopbun]

Have you tried another atty?...I wonder if the Mini is making a good connection with Provari. There are few older threads swearing by Provari + Protank mini.

When one of my rba doesn't produce enough smoke, etc...I try lowering the pin...then here comes the "boom"

 

[cocacola31173]

I haven't had any problems with mine...but a Provari really shines with a carto tank...is it a new head?

 

[drummerskey]

I assume if you are using the PT Mini with the Provari that you had to use an adapter?

The PT Mini is eGo threading the Provari has 510 only so I would check the connection. With my regular Protank, I do need to back it out a nudge. Plus, I use 2.2 coils and I am usually around 4 volts, give or take a a tenth and I have to put it down sometimes.......and the flavor is good.

However, I am coming from a iTaste 3.0 and maybe your Vamo hits harder

p.s. my PT Mini SUCKS as compared to the PTII. I end up having to plug the airholes to get a decent hit but I haven't used it on the Provari, just the iTaste and Spinners

 

[Paksoy]

Hi gang
After reading all the Provari hype, I bit the bullet and bought a mini. I was quite impressed with the look and feel.
I have been using protank minis with it and have to say I'm not impressed... Why??
On my vamo v5 I get great clouds and excellent flavour, but on the provari my flavour is muted, less smoke. I have played around with the voltage and found a reasonable setting of 3.5 - 3.7 volts on a 2.1 atty in my protank.
Any advise please.

If you're using a ProTank Mini on your Provari, then you must be using a 510 to ego adapter. Which could support "porkchopbun's" theory about the mini not making a good connection between the provari and the adapter/atty. Depending on the quality of the adapter, you could be getting significant voltage drop.

Try a 510 atty with both your Vamo and Provari (with same voltage settings) and see if there is a difference.

 

[Gone Digital]

Yes I'm using a adaptor for the protank mini.
In fact I use 2 protanks with different flavours.
I also have a normal original protank, the ones that you can't take completely apart, without the adapter and have similar results !!
But when used on my vamo there is so much differance.
In fact that's what originally persuaded me to go for the provari.
I thought if I'm getting this much taste and dense smoke on a vamo, imagine what it must be like on a provari. But it's completely the opposite.

I have thought about getting a good rebuildable atty, but can't justifie spending more money after spending almost £200 on a provari(new batteries bought with it)

 

[Gone Digital]

Sorry forgot to mention that I use the vamo at 5watts but only 3.5-3.7 on the provari.
Would this explain the difference in vape.
I haven't tried the vamo in volt mode yet.

 

[InTheShade]

So you are vaping them on the same voltage and getting completely different results?

Is your Vamo in RMS or mean mode? (not sure you can even change a V5, but thought it worth a mention)

3.4-3.7 volts seems a little low to me, for what it's worth, I would vape a 2.1ohm head at around 4 volts.

Are you getting a much tighter draw using the PT on the provari?

 

[drummerskey]

3.4-3.7 volts seems a little low to me, for what it's worth, I would vape a 2.1ohm head at around 4 volts.

Are you getting a much tighter draw using the PT on the provari?

I +1 both of these and I would assume you would get the tighter draw on the PT1 without having to back it out a little. I have an Aerotank base on my PTII so I don't have air flow issues with it but with 2.2 coils, I am usually about the same as InTheShade.

I am, however; sorry that you are not getting great results on your Provari. I have been immensely impressed with the Provari/PTII/Aerobase set up and would be pretty frustrated if I spent the money and didn't get the result.

 

[Maestro]

Sorry forgot to mention that I use the vamo at 5watts but only 3.5-3.7 on the provari.
Would this explain the difference in vape.
I haven't tried the vamo in volt mode yet.

Sounds awfully low to me. Most people prefer between 8 and 10 watts. Are you confusing watts with volts?

 

[Gone Digital]

So you are vaping them on the same voltage and getting completely different results?

Is your Vamo in RMS or mean mode? (not sure you can even change a V5, but thought it worth a mention)

3.4-3.7 volts seems a little low to me, for what it's worth, I would vape a 2.1ohm head at around 4 volts.

Are you getting a much tighter draw using the PT on the provari?

Yep using vamo in rms mode.
The draw is pretty similar on both devices.
I have tried cranking up on the provari to 4v but I'm a bit of a chain vapour and start getting slight burnt taste. But at my average 3.5 I get no burning taste.

 

[drummerskey]

The burnt taste is probably a wicking issue and not too high of a setting. I am not 100% but you can go up to 4.3 volts on a 2.2 coil (Protanks are 1.8, 2.2 and 2.5). If you take a short, un-powered pull between drags........the burnt taste should not happen.

But still, I got those a lot on my iTaste but no on the Provari.....or I do the un-powered hits less often.

Hey, you could have an issue with the Provari..........It isn't the most likely but could be another answer.

 

[Gone Digital]

Maestro.
Definitely in watt mode.
I have tried cranking it up 10wats and it's great for the first 2-3 vapes but then dreaded burnt tsar comes.
If I don't use it for a few minutes then It's good to go for a couple of vapes but then burning taste.
But at 5watts it seems great for my style and taste.
Very confusing

 

[zapped]

Isnt the Provari, its the topper.

Switch over to a real tank and and you'll see a huge difference.

 

[AmandaD]

You'll have a vastly different experience with a better topper, imo. I love IB Tanked cartotanks on my Provari

 

[Miata GT]

Stop using the Protank for all the reasons mentioned. Try a better device and you should see a difference. I am not a fanboi and had a hard time when I plunked down the money one but I have to say the Provari does make for a very nice and consistent vape. Use the right device and see if you don't come to grips with it.

 

[meatcarnival]

Stop using the Protank for all the reasons mentioned. Try a better device and you should see a difference. I am not a fanboi and had a hard time when I plunked down the money one but I have to say the Provari does make for a very nice and consistent vape. Use the right device and see if you don't come to grips with it.

I agree...my kayfun on the provari was AMAZING. could compensate for ohms raising from gunked up coils. protank on the provari was tight draw and gurgled like a broken toilet.

 

[Maestro]

Maestro.
Definitely in watt mode.
I have tried cranking it up 10wats and it's great for the first 2-3 vapes but then dreaded burnt tsar comes.
If I don't use it for a few minutes then It's good to go for a couple of vapes but then burning taste.
But at 5watts it seems great for my style and taste.
Very confusing

Sounds like a wicking issue to me. Put in a few drops of water in the juice to thin it and see if that helps

 

[Gone Digital]

My atty reading 2ohms

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi gang
After reading all the Provari hype, I bit the bullet and bought a mini. I was quite impressed with the look and feel.
I have been using protank minis with it and have to say I'm not impressed... Why??
On my vamo v5 I get great clouds and excellent flavour, but on the provari my flavour is muted, less smoke. I have played around with the voltage and found a reasonable setting of 3.5 - 3.7 volts on a 2.1 atty in my protank.
Any advise please.

3.7v with a 2.1Ω tank is 6.5 watts. I like my vape cool, but that's even a bit low for me; however, vaping is what tastes good to you, not what the numbers are and if you are vaping 5 watts with the Vamo, you apparently like it quite cool.

How long have you had the ProVari? As others have said, you should probably try some other toppers. Personally, I find Protanks mute flavor, but I use them for convenience and mostly vape unflavored in them anyway. I use the original Protank (the one you can't take apart), since I like how it looks.

In my experience direct dripping (with a regular atty, not a rebuildable) has the best flavor, followed by carto tanks (although I don't rebuild, so can't comment on that). If you don't want to go that route just yet, there are quite a few clearo/glassos on the market that have gotten much better reviews than the Protank. The Aspire bottom-coil line is popular, especially the Nautilus and there is a BDC Vivi Nova which I tried and had good luck. I also have a HyperTank that's has performed well for me. It takes the Kanger Protank heads, but for some reason doesn't seem to have the muted taste issue.

You asked why? But I'm not sure anyone can answer that very well. Sometimes things are just different - it might be the adaptor on the mini or different airflow between the Vamo and the ProVari. I only really like one flavor of juice and I use it in a number of toppers, each one tastes slightly different to the point where it's almost like different juices.

Ultimately, you like what you like and maybe the ProVari isn't for you, although you might want to give it a chance since you've made such an investment. I recommend you get verified when you have enough posts, that way you might be able to pick up some different toppers less expensively or if you really don't like the ProVari you can sell it for almost what you paid for it. Actually, you might want to check the UK Vapers forums, so there wouldn't be shipping to deal with.

I hope you don't feel bullied. There is nothing wrong with not liking a device, no matter what it is. Often people who love their mods will insist those who don't are doing something wrong, but that's not always true. Taste is subjective and what I like you may not. I hope you are able to figure things out.

Cheers!