why are most of the 30 amp, hi-drain batteries flat tops?

[vapdivrr]

been using the aw/imr 18650's , 1600mah forever and swear by them. they seem to be a fantastic hi-drain battery. need to purchase a few new ones and was thinking on trying some newer types that maybe better. I know the 1600 mah that i use are 24 amps and was wondering if there is a hands down better nipple top battery with at least the same amp limit or maybe even higher around? i have a few mnke's but they just don't fit and work as well as the nipple tops so the flat tops are out. thanks guys

 

[schuff]

As for why all the high current batteries is easy. It's all about appealing to the market. High end batteries are primarily used in packs and that means flat tops since button tops don't work very well in that application.

Unfortunately, this means button tops will be extremely hard to find if you need high amp output power.

What do you mean by flat tops don't fit? If that truly is the case you may need to invest in more AW's.

 

[vapdivrr]

As for why all the high current batteries is easy. It's all about appealing to the market. High end batteries are primarily used in packs and that means flat tops since button tops don't work very well in that application.

Unfortunately, this means button tops will be extremely hard to find if you need high amp output power.

What do you mean by flat tops don't fit? If that truly is the case you may need to invest in more AW's.

well in my future dna mod, it only can use nipple tops. as for my mechs, it seems like my 2 origen v-2's work better with nipple tops. maybe its the throw or something. i have tried to adjust it but it just doesn't fire as consistently as a nipple top because of the extra distance. as for my 18650 dingo, it isn't picky, as it works fine on either. and for my provari, probably should stick to the aw/imr's because that's what they really recommend. so at least 3 of my mods work better with nipples.

 

[vapdivrr]

As for why all the high current batteries is easy. It's all about appealing to the market. High end batteries are primarily used in packs and that means flat tops since button tops don't work very well in that application.

Unfortunately, this means button tops will be extremely hard to find if you need high amp output power.

What do you mean by flat tops don't fit? If that truly is the case you may need to invest in more AW's.

really, you think most are flat tops because they pack easier? i guess that makes sense, never thought about that one.

 

[kingdal]

Here ya go

Sony Button Top US18650VTC4 2100mAh - Kidney Puncher

Sony Button Top US18650VTC5 2600 mAh - Kidney Puncher

 

[schuff]

really, you think most are flat tops because they pack easier? i guess that makes sense, never thought about that one.

A flat top is much more desirable as a consumer for batteries because it can be packed regardless of size. Power tools, laptops, electric mowers / weed eaters, powerbanks and even electric cars such as tesla just to name a few use a wide size range of cylinder shaped batteries in packs to power the device.

Kingdal, provided a solution though. It's a magnet added to the positive contact and the the battery is rewrapped.

 

[MikeA5]

The Orbtronic SX30 ultra high drain 30 amp battery has a nipple top. I use them in some of my mech and DNA 30 mods. They are longer than the AW.

 

[hazozita]

The efest purples also come in a button top. I wasn't an efest fan in the past, but these have been working out well so far. Can get them in 18350, 18500 and 18650 in button top configuration.

Efest IMR 18650 35 A 2500 mAh 3.7V LI-MN High Drain Rechargeable Batte - Lightning Vapes

 

[drmarble]

I just stick a magnet on top of mine if I need a button top. I can take it off if I don't want it. Just a small thin neodymium disk magnet. Works great.

 

[niczgreat]

For VV units, in my humble opinion you can't do better then the New NCR18650PF High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery button top by Orbtronic it stays above 3.7V for an incredible long period of time.

For Mechs
The Sony VTC5 Currently rules in Batteries available with Button.

The low resistance of the Sony is not really necessary in VV operation so go with size.

 

[vapdivrr]

For VV units, in my humble opinion you can't do better then the New NCR18650PF High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery button top by Orbtronic it stays above 3.7V for an incredible long period of time.

For Mechs
The Sony VTC5 Currently rules in Batteries available with Button.

The low resistance of the Sony is not really necessary in VV operation so go with size.

So the vct5 is available in nipple top?

 

[vapdivrr]

Hey guys thanks for the info

 

[vapdivrr]

Here ya go

Sony Button Top US18650VTC4 2100mAh - Kidney Puncher

Sony Button Top US18650VTC5 2600 mAh - Kidney Puncher

Cool, didn't know they came in buttons. they say their a little longer so I will check them out. Thanks

 

[kingdal]

I hesitated to buy the button tops because of the warning that they were longer. I ended up buying the flat tops and I'm glad I did. They're about the same size as the AW 18650s and work great in my REOs and other mechs. Haven't had a problem with them yet in various mechs. Best thing is to try one and see.

Good luck

 

[st0nedpenguin]

For VV units, in my humble opinion you can't do better then the New NCR18650PF High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery button top by Orbtronic it stays above 3.7V for an incredible long period of time.

They were definitely top dog for a while but the 3100mah Efest have pretty much taken over for regulated use.

 

[Randy C]

From a safety standpoint, how do batteries other than AW- IMR compare? Some Mod manufacturers stress the use of AW IMRs. I've always used AW IMR 2000 may in my VVs and mechanicals up until now. I'm not a sub-ohm kinda guy, so please help me choose- keeping in mind the safety aspect

 

[zoiDman]

As Mentioned before, Flat Top batteries work well in Battery Packs. It is Very Easy to Solder them together in Series to Achieve Higher Voltages.

I have an e-Bike. And its "Battery" is nothing more than a Boat Load of 18650 Batteries in both Series and Parallel. The e-Bike has a Nominal Voltage of 36v.

 

[Steamer861]

A flat top battery adapter is also an option I use one in my Reo Grand with a VTC5 so I can still use my button cover
Mad vapes had them but out of stock now

 

[vapdivrr]

After reading thru posts, I bought a few vct5 flats, also for my mods that seem to work better with buttons, I bought a couple of the new purple efests, I think they are 30 ampers. I will see how the efests work compared to the aws.

 

[regal55]

For VV units, in my humble opinion you can't do better then the New NCR18650PF High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery button top by Orbtronic it stays above 3.7V for an incredible long period of time.

For Mechs
The Sony VTC5 Currently rules in Batteries available with Button.

The low resistance of the Sony is not really necessary in VV operation so go with size.

The panasonic NCR18650PF doesn't have a big enough button to work with the provari, which is really the only APV of interest that requires button tops.