Why are some people so resistant?

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mixitman

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I'm not pushy, at all, with showing my 510 to friends that smoke.. I let them know what it is, what it does, and that I haven't touched a cig in 6 weeks (yay).. but more times than not, that's as far as it goes.. I haven't converted any of my friends at all! Like I said, I'm not pushy at all and I'm not preaching to them, but when I saw my 1st ecig (someone at work was puffing away) I wanted one NOW! And I'm so glad I got it!

Anyone else have a rough time converting friends/family? Maybe I should be pushy? Maybe bring clean or new carts over friends house and let them give it a try?
 

wolflrv

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I have to confess...I was a die-hard smoker and actually laughed at my buddy several times when he suggested I try an e-cig. He showed it to me..I watched him do it for over 2 months..all the while just shakin' my head at his "toy cig"!

All the while...it was buggin' me deep down inside..almost subconsciously. Then I had a visit with a surgeon to get some teeth pulled and he denied me due to blood pressure. I finally broke down..and all I can say is it's working!

Just plant the seeds and let folks decide for themselves. The more folks that vape the more smokers will try it. So don't hide it..but don't push it either...just let them watch you.
 

mwbraden

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I have had great success and I am not a smoker. I have never smoked, but am sold on the PV's as a great alternative. I have converted 4 people at work in the last 6 weeks. I don't really push them into it. What I have found is the more I educate them about the process and how it replaces the entire ritual of smoking rather than just the nicotine replacement, it makes more sense to them and they are more willing to try it.
 

woolfe99

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People almost never quit smoking based on someone else trying to persuade them to do so. They have to decide for themselves.

In one of my bouts of trying to quit, I was participating in a support group. There was this 70 year old lady in it. She tells us that she was diagnosed with lung cancer 12 years before, that it spread to her brain, that she was given a 20% of survival, and that she was cured of the cancer. But she still smokes 2 packs a day of cigarettes! 8-o She says, "people always tell me I'm crazy and that I have to quit, but ...... them, I'll do as I ......ing please. Anyway, I figure I should probably quit now since they say I have early stage emphasema." :confused:

Anyway, that was a bit of tangent, but yeah, just vape in front of them until they get curious. Trying to convince them may actually decrease their chance of switching.
 

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I do not try to convert anyone,I vape,if they are interested I answer questions and recomend they read up on it.I think the research is important in the decision process.It has to be their choice.
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OP -Never push -please - unless you want to be seen as 'anti-smoking'.
Smokers get enough people telling them 'what to do and how to do it' from people with a sneer in their voices who look down on them.
I'm sure you're a person with good intentions nad just want to share you excitement, really I do, but many smokers wont get that - just lead by example, show NOT tell :)
Glad to hear it working out so well for ya btw :thumb:
 

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I have converted a few, and educated many more, some strangers that I will never know if they took the plunge, but I do it sort of on the sly, like vaping around them when they are smoking and let THEM ask ME about it. Then it's in their court and they tend to be more receptive.

I sometimes vape very conspicuously in front of certain people, like employees standing out Pets Smart in the cold, I sidled right up beside them and started vaping. Suddenly, they were turned on to it and wanted all kinds of info. I vaped in the smoking area outside an airport right beside a co-pilot and two flight attendents. They had heard about it but never seen it, then they too wanted more info. Many other situations but all the same, I let them ask me.

Sometimes covert actions make a bigger impact. Some smokers are so used to all the negative stuff, they are instantly on the defensive and not receptive. Seems as if when I let THEM make the first move, it works better.

Vaping has been a wonderful adventure for me, and I have been analog free for over a year, but I found them on my own, quite by accident. I would have been very negative to the idea if someone had brought it to me, so I quite understand their issues. I, too, was rebellious about "my right to smoke", and I shunned all efforts by friends and loved ones to advise me. Finding PV's on my own put me in control and therefore it gave me the satisfaction of knowing I was doing it for ME !

My daughter, my sister, my brother, several friends and co-workers have been converted, but only after they saw what vaping has done for the most hard-core smoker they ever knew.

Just my opinion and what has worked for me.
 

Ciara

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In order to stop smoking, you really have to HATE it, you have to hate yourself and hate your life. That's the problem, most people love it. I know at one time, I sure did.

Very well said! I used to be there too. I really enjoyed smoking and never intended to quit. I had an image in my mind of being an old kitty lady rocking in a chair with a huge supply of cigs and lighters. I never wanted to be without my cigs.

32 years later.....here I am. I came to hate those nasty cigs about 10 years ago. I didn't enjoy them anymore, but I was a slave to them. My whole day revolved around whether I had enough to get through the day, needing to wash and shower to get the stink off before I went out to see anyone, being afraid someone might need a ride somewhere because my car stank, doing tons of laundry because I was afraid my clothes smelled, on and on. Even so, I had to have them. No matter what I tried, I just couldn't stop.

It's so true that a person has to be ready. If they're not, then they're not. This is where my son is now. He likes my PV and I let him try one of my spares for awhile, but he didn't take any time to check this forum, learn about juices, cart, maintenance, etc. He just wanted it to work without any effort on his part. Ain't gonna work. He just doesn't want it badly enough right now. When he does, I'll be right there.
 

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I've tried and tried to get my sister to join in, she's 69 years old this July, and I thought it would be a terrific thing to get her a couple disposable packs, but she's not interested.
I didn't have the heart to say any more, but I sat beside her in church Sunday and she smells of cigarettes. Very bad. I took another shower when I got home!
I think it's just a stubborness thing, or a fear of not smoking, yes, that's a bad one, but my gosh I know she's feeling the effects of smoking for the last 53+ years. Menthol, no less. Her daughter in law would follow with us, I know that. Well, maybe some more cajoling. I have two neices though that are using 510's and are HAPPY!
 

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I think its all about individual timing...if someone had offered me an e-cig a year ago i probably would have laughed and said how cute but not for me. I have been smoke free for 6 months now and have converted one person, and that was only because they were ready. And then there is my sister, i tell her to let me know when she is ready and i will set her up with an e-cig..her reply is always the same, she says she will not use an e-cig and just quit cold turkey... hummm... i don't push her, maybe in her own time she just might give it a try.
 

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I do not try to convert anyone,I vape,if they are interested I answer questions and recomend they read up on it.

What seems to me to be the most efficient course of action.

The less you seem to proselytizing, the greater the chances of your message getting across. Smokers can be very defensive. I know. :D
 

Kate51

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Doots, That's not a good analysis from someone who used to smoke! Stupid to smoke, yes, but there comes a time a person has to be ready to take the dive just to save their life, it's about being addicted, not a matter of intelligence. In a funny way. I used to hide my awful coughing so people wouldn't notice. I knew what they'd say, and I just didn't want to hear how stupid I was to keep smoking. Didn't want to see a Dr., either, unless I was in BIG trouble with something. As if no one could smell me a mile away.
 

Ciara

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In a funny way. I used to hide my awful coughing so people wouldn't notice. I knew what they'd say, and I just didn't want to hear how stupid I was to keep smoking. Didn't want to see a Dr., either, unless I was in BIG trouble with something. As if no one could smell me a mile away.

What a relief to know I'm not alone here! Oh that cough! I tried hard to hide it too, but when I couldn't help it, the blame game began. The cat was shedding an extra lot that day. The wind blew my window overnight and who knows what came in from outside, mercy, pass the Kleenex please. Poor kitty got lots of blame and so did the weather and, of course, the golden standby....must be catching a cold.. *coff coff* I felt really stupid because the only other people with "that" cough were smokers too.

And the Dr? Oh forget it, no way. I had to be in serious shape to do that. I work in the medical field and a lot of doctors will note in the chart that the patient smelled strongly of tobacco (or alcohol or whatever). Oh yeah, our scent was definitely detected even if we didn't think so.
 
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