Why are there no variable wattage eGo's?

[jjcordone]

IMHO variable wattage makes a lot of sense.
No worrying about the ohm ratings of the liquid delivery device your using, since they automatically adjust themselves to accommodate the load to keep at the watt output its set at.
But, not all of us want to walk around with a mod and use eGo's when we're out and about.

So there's my question:
Why are there no variable or regulated wattage eGo's?
Lots of companies seem to know how to make a variable wattage mod, but no one has applied the technology to an eGo yet.

Having an eGo that was regulated to run at 5 watts or a twist type eGo that allowed me to set it to 5 watts would be ideal.
Maybe there's one on the way?

 

[AngelsBreath]

Urmmmm, what about the ego Twist or the Spinner????

Sorry, didn't see wattage, was thinking voltage

 

[Lowlife]

Variable wattage is a fairly new technology in the industry (i believe). I am sure someone will try to build a VW ego style device. As far as I know there are no "chips" small enough to put in that size package yet. I could be wrong.

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[Iron Molly]

Probably because by using a LR atty on a non-variable voltage/wattage device you can increase the watts the battery puts out (to a point). That's what we all did before this stuff came out.

 

[jjcordone]

Maybe it is a design engineering reason as Lowlife says, they haven't figured out how to make the components small enough yet.
It's fun to predict what's next and it does seem logical that the next big wave in eGo's would be variable wattage.

Iron Molly: Agreed. I'm using an EVOD with a 1.5ohm head and a mini eGo that's regulated at 3.7v as my out and about solution now.
Works fantastic. I'd like to retract my initial post of a fixed wattage device since it is certainly obtainable with the devices we have available to us now. Variable wattage though, would be cool.

SexySod: Agreed, I'm using a twist as my at home device now and having variable voltage is convenient.
I'm just thinking that it would be really nice to be able to set an en eGo at 5 watt's and have it automatically adjust the voltage itself as I swap tanks, like the VAMO does. The VAMO's size and weight difference is huge compared to an eGo form factor.

 

[Seruza]

I'm kind of confused by the question, and perhaps I missed something, but ohms law states:
I = current (amps)
V= voltage
R= resistance (ohms)

I = V/R

Stay with me, theres more...

Power or wattage is directly related to ohms law in that it uses I and V to get it. Thus we have:

W = I x V

So with that, you variate voltage with a constant resistance, you will therefore variate the power/watts.

I think, and once again I could be missing something; you want the panels to read in watts instead of volts. Would this be correct?

I think there's a conversion chart floating around these threads somewhere...

 

[Fury83]

In simple terms

Power equals voltage squared divided by resistance

If you adjust ohms or voltage you are varying the power output. Variable wattage pv's read the atomizer and do the math for you. Honestly, it's not as simple as set it and forget it. Some juices, atty's and wicking materials may require you to adjust.

It's nothing to get very excited over honestly.

You play with this calculator to get an idea

Ohm's Law Calculator

 

[Plumes.91]

the janty MiD is a small ego-like variable wattage device.

 

[Seruza]

In simple terms

Power equals voltage squared divided by resistance

If you adjust ohms or voltage you are varying the power output. Variable wattage pv's read the atomizer and do the math for you. Honestly, it's not as simple as set it and forget it. Some juices, atty's and wicking materials may require you to adjust.

It's nothing to get very excited over honestly.

You play with this calculator to get an idea

Ohm's Law Calculator

Yup, that works too.

I'm not sure I agree though(about not getting excited over it). There are plenty of people mentioning that even a slight power increase is noticeable. Unfortunately I don't have the experience yet to confirm or deny.

 

[StereoDreamer]

Variable wattage is a fairly new technology in the industry (i believe). I am sure someone will try to build a VW ego style device. As far as I know there are no "chips" small enough to put in that size package yet. I could be wrong.

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Actually, the Darwin first introduced VW vaping about three years ago, so the technology is not all that new. It's just difficult to implement in small eGo-sized form factors, and considerably more expensive to build than VV or fixed voltage...

 

[wv2win]

In simple terms

Power equals voltage squared divided by resistance

If you adjust ohms or voltage you are varying the power output. Variable wattage pv's read the atomizer and do the math for you. Honestly, it's not as simple as set it and forget it. Some juices, atty's and wicking materials may require you to adjust.

It's nothing to get very excited over honestly.

You play with this calculator to get an idea

Ohm's Law Calculator

Bull, with VW there is less "playing around". There are the hobbist who have a need to fiddle around and think everyone should be like them and then there is the rest of the population who wants vaping to be more automatic and like VW. Many think it is a definite improvement and see it as a better option even though you don't. In new industries, progress occurs. Just get over it, honestly.

 

[wv2win]

Variable wattage is a fairly new technology in the industry (i believe). I am sure someone will try to build a VW ego style device. As far as I know there are no "chips" small enough to put in that size package yet. I could be wrong.

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Actually the first VW model PV came out 2 years ago. It will be the future of variable vaping.

 

[Fury83]

Yup, that works too.

I'm not sure I agree though(about not getting excited over it). There are plenty of people mentioning that even a slight power increase is noticeable. Unfortunately I don't have the experience yet to confirm or deny.

Having had sticks, egos, twists,mechs, provaris, zmax's, vamos, kicks, cans and used them with everything from carts to china clearos to high end rba's and genesis...the most important piece is always the juice delivery device.

Slight power increases are noticeable but you don't need a variable wattage device is all I am saying. Variable wattage devices read the resistance of the atomizer and fires at a voltage to hit the power (watts) it is set at. It's just automatic voltage adjustment. If you have a sigelei zmax set to 8 watts and you are using a 2ohm carto, all it's doing is firing at 4 volts. If you switch it to vv mode and set it at 4 volts, same vape. Same thing if you have a provari, you like around 8 watts, atty reads at 2ohms, you put it on 4 volts and get an 8 watt vape. VW is just a regulator, it doesn't add power and most of the china vw devices won't hit the levels they advertise without stacking batteries.

I just don't see what the fuss is about and I say that with plenty of vw experience.

 

[Seruza]

*shrug
I can do the math, so I could care either way. My point is the wattage is already being varied by going up or down in volts. So, a VV is a VW, just not in the sense I think the layman is looking for.

I think I would agree that the delivery system is most important, but once again, I don't have enough experience to confirm or deny.

 

[Kent C]

I go by taste. Vapor too - but anywhere from about 6.5W to where you're burning your juice, the vapor isn't that different. Put a 2.0 or whatever ohm coil on an eGo Twist and adjust the voltage to taste - you don't even have to know what voltage it is, just turn the knob - no math involved.... VW is just marketing, a bit like VV when it was introduced, although it has it's benefits, and 'high voltage mods' before that It's just recently to where some caught on to the fact that it isn't voltage anyway. It is watts ... and always has been.....but it's taste that rules for all but a few, and even for TH and vapor fans, you still can dial it in with a Twist without knowing the numbers.

 

[Seruza]

I go by taste. Vapor too - but anywhere from about 6.5W to where you're burning your juice, the vapor isn't that different. Put a 2.0 or whatever ohm coil on an eGo Twist and adjust the voltage to taste - you don't even have to know what voltage it is, just turn the knob - no math involved.... VW is just marketing, a bit like VV when it was introduced, although it has it's benefits, and 'high voltage mods' before that It's just recently to where some caught on to the fact that it isn't voltage anyway. It is watts ... and always has been.....but it's taste that rules for all but a few, and even for TH and vapor fans, you still can dial it in with a Twist without knowing the numbers.

Well said sir! I'm picking up what you're puttin' down.

 

[Kent C]

Well said sir! I'm picking up what you're puttin' down.

Thanks. There are some things that have 'longevity' around here - the 510 connection, the eGo connection - and there's a reason for that. If it were only hype, they'd be long gone. Many other things have come and gone.... More clearos now have the eGo connection - there's a reason for that.

 

[Fury83]

*shrug
I can do the math, so I could care either way. My point is the wattage is already being varied by going up or down in volts. So, a VV is a VW, just not in the sense I think the layman is looking for.

I think I would agree that the delivery system is most important, but once again, I don't have enough experience to confirm or deny.

All shrugging aside

Wattage is being varied by changing either volts or resistance, a vv pv works just as well as a vw pv or changing the atty resistance. Most laypeople seem to think that VW makes everything consistent but it really doesn't due to any of the other variables in play. It really only does what most people think it will do if you are always using the same attached device and juice all the time.

I used to just adjust to taste, the twist is great for this. Now I basically adjust to taste but I pretty much know where I want to be with what I am using if I am using a vvpv.

It's just more tech to stuff into an ego and the twists/spinner/ego-v are already pretty damn long. So you're probably not seeing them because they haven't made a good design for it that can be mass produced cheaply. Cost is important too, ego users probably don't want to drop $50 bucks on one and they also break too easily to be worth that much.

 

[ToeJamX]

I don't really think that I would care for a VW device that much as I tend to switch between several juices, and the wattage can definitely affect the vape on each, regardless of the atty resistance, different juices perform differently for me. So, I like starting with low voltage and slowly increasing it every time until I get it the way that I want it.

 

[bazmonkey]

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OMG wow thanks!

Now, to be serious...

Wattage is being varied by changing either volts or resistance, a vv pv works just as well as a vw pv or changing the atty resistance. Most laypeople seem to think that VW makes everything consistent but it really doesn't due to any of the other variables in play. It really only does what most people think it will do if you are always using the same attached device and juice all the time.

That's why I think VW eGos aren't here. They don't deliver what the concept promises. Don't get me wrong: it does what it says and keeps the wattage consistent. But like Fury pointed out, wattage alone doesn't determine where a particular juice/delivery tastes best.

If you've got VV and a bunch of different heads, you have to basically remember where you like each one. This one at 4.2, this no higher than 4.0, that one at least 3.8, etc. With VW, you've basically got to remember where you like each one. Most juices at 6 watts, some at 7.5, etc.

It's the same thing. Either way you're having to remember a number for each piece you vape. IF, and only if, a person really did use the same wattage everywhere would it be easier. I personally use VV and have heads that I use +- 2 watts or so from each other. I roast my 555 and vape mints very cold. Variable wattage wouldn't make anything easier.

eGo's are the mid-range batteries. You can think of them as pro mass-market batteries, or beginner APV's. To keep that niche they need to retain a degree of user-friendliness. Since VW would appear to merely complicate things for most people, and requires a built-in ohm meter and more things to potentially break, it's a no-go for that niche.

The ONLY advantage I see in VW despite all this is that it could be a bit safer. A person would be less likely to ruin an atty if they used VW and always kept it under 8 watts. With VV the safe range moves for each piece.