Why can't someone make a working auto feed tank for atomizers???

[BK_Malik]

I've had some limited luck in the past slotting attys and using them just like cartos in a carto-tank.

It seems there is some variance in the "wick" material used inside attys, and some worked better than others. By wick I don't mean the wick inside the coil, but the nickle-foam stuff (same material as the bridge) that runs around the ceramic cup of the atty. It was difficult accounting for the variance in that material, and if I put too big a slot in there it would flood like crazy. The sweet spot between flooding and dry hits was tiny compared to cartos, which is why I gave it up. Plus it was 5 bucks a pop instead of 1-2 for cartos.

If you really really like disposable attys it might be worth it fiddling around until you get it right. The slot goes where the cup is, not above in the chamber section. I tried using a punch and cracked the ceramic, so slowly running a triangular file over the tube until it just breaks through seemed to work best.

Have you ever tried a properly setup kayfun style atty? I know you say you can taste the wire and wick with rebuildables, but that sounds like some sort of setup issue. Seems a bit magical that the same wire and same wick material would cause some awful flavor in all rebuildables, but not be present in a disposable atty.

Thanks for the reply UncleChuck. The issues with cup cracking, slot placement, etc. are what I'm trying to avoid by hopefully talking someone into making an auto-feed atty that is pre punched or slotted in the right place and with a hole that's the right size.

I do have a Kayfun 3.1 and on occasion I have actually gotten a decent draw. More often rough hits from the cotton wick/microcoil and liquid leaking from the air hole. When it works it's a beeautiful thing but the thing is I don't like fiddling with wicks and coils. I like things to work all the time or at leat most of the time, not sometimes.

 

[LDS714]

Thanks for the reply UncleChuck. The issues with cup cracking, slot placement, etc. are what I'm trying to avoid by hopefully talking someone into making an auto-feed atty that is pre punched or slotted in the right place and with a hole that's the right size.

I do have a Kayfun 3.1 and on occasion I have actually gotten a decent draw. More often rough hits from the cotton wick/microcoil and liquid leaking from the air hole. When it works it's a beeautiful thing but the thing is I don't like fiddling with wicks and coils. I like things to work all the time or at leat most of the time, not sometimes.

Leaking from the airhole is almost always due to too much wick. I've found that if you use less wick than you think you need (no, wait, even less than that - pretty much to the "this ain't gonna work" point) they are fantastic. Once you get it, it takes about as long to change out the wick as it does to prime and change out a carto in a tank.

I haven't tried it, but the vertical microcoil builds are basically a big fat carto tank.

 

[BK_Malik]

AGF Stainless atomizer tank for 510 atomizers TA-DA!

Hey D, do you have one? How does it vape?

 

[inanitydefined]

Sorry, I shouldn't have said wickless...

The small amount of wicking in a bridgeless is really not important to me. What I would like is for the atomizer to be able to sit in a tank and auto feed through the sides into the wicking like a punched catromizer. This would eliminate the need for feeding through the air holes (and constant adjustments) like an AMP Tank or a UFS.

you know you just described a kayfun right? I find it hard to believe that you can taste the kanthal and cotton in a rebuildable, but you can't taste the nichrome and burning, soggy track pants in cartomizers

 

[edyle]

If you don't mind wicking with cotton or silica, there's a hybrid tank bottom feeder / dripper combo that's about to be released by Budzworx philippines. It's going to be sold as a complete system w/ the atomizer (w/ afc), pyrex glass tank, and tube mod powered by either an 18500 or 18490.

I'm a dripper / Reo user myself and have only tried Budz' new mod that he brought last night. It was only an 18350 version but I was quite surprised with the flavor and vapor production. I'll post some pics when I get mine and hopefully a vid review.

edit: Here's the atomizer I was referring to :

That just seems to be a genesis style tank using mesh wick.

 

[edyle]

What I'd like is a tank system where when its time to clean your atomizer out, you can just dryburn it and you're good as new.
Reuseable indefinitely.

So far the ceramic wick system seems the closest to it.

 

[BK_Malik]

Leaking from the airhole is almost always due to too much wick. I've found that if you use less wick than you think you need (no, wait, even less than that - pretty much to the "this ain't gonna work" point) they are fantastic. Once you get it, it takes about as long to change out the wick as it does to prime and change out a carto in a tank.

I haven't tried it, but the vertical microcoil builds are basically a big fat carto tank.

I'm gonna recoil & rewick so that when I get my new liquid shipment in I'll be ready.

 

[BK_Malik]

What I'd like is a tank system where when its time to clean your atomizer out, you can just dryburn it and you're good as new.
Reuseable indefinitely.

So far the ceramic wick system seems the closest to it.

Do you have any links to information on the ceramic wick system you're talking about?

 

[BK_Malik]

you know you just described a kayfun right? I find it hard to believe that you can taste the kanthal and cotton in a rebuildable, but you can't taste the nichrome and burning, soggy track pants in cartomizers

I use cartomizers tanks because they're fiddle free and they work. I never said that I enjoy the taste...

I'm working on perfecting my Kayfun builds but I still want something that I can pick up, put together, and vape on the go that is trouble free like an atomizer but without the hassle of dripping.

 

[inanitydefined]

I use cartomizers tanks because they're fiddle free and they work. I never said that I enjoy the taste...

I'm working on perfecting my Kayfun builds but I still want something that I can pick up, put together, and vape on the go that is trouble free like an atomizer but without the hassle of dripping.

you just haven't had that "aha" moment yet. My first attempt at rebuilding was long ago and I put it down for the longest time. then I got a kraken and started working on it, built a couple of coils before I found the one that just tasted right. now i'm experimenting with different coil types, chasing my personal dragon of vapor texture. I can tell you this though. I wont use anything but a rebuildable now.

 

[emus]

I have several varieties of tank toppers and they all work great. Some were built in 2013 and still work perfect. Wicks can be built to over wick and leak on side, under wick and burn or just right. Once you discover just right wick style it is easy to duplicate.

I'm satisfied w/ toppers. My complaint is switches. I wonder when the factories will start making closer tolerance switches w/o excess slop.

 

[BlaseWithVicarious]

If only imeo could provide his insight on this... GG ufs was good. Guess you don't like doing any extra work to get great capes from products. I drip the nimbus and it's great. Drippers are good and easy to switch flavors


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[BK_Malik]

you just haven't had that "aha" moment yet. My first attempt at rebuilding was long ago and I put it down for the longest time. then I got a kraken and started working on it, built a couple of coils before I found the one that just tasted right. now i'm experimenting with different coil types, chasing my personal dragon of vapor texture. I can tell you this though. I wont use anything but a rebuildable now.

Yeah, I know you're right. I'm just an impatient guy when I want my vape most of the time. If I have to fiddle with something I'll just put it down and pick up something that works.

I'm working through that though lol...

 

[emus]

Yeah, I know you're right. I'm just an impatient guy when I want my vape most of the time. If I have to fiddle with something I'll just put it down and pick up something that works.

I'm working through that though lol...

Worth the effort for me. A good coil lasts months if not years. Wick can last weeks or months w/ unflavored or clean burning juice. Horizontal coils can make wick change very quick and easy.

 

[BK_Malik]

Worth the effort for me. A good coil lasts months if not years. Wick can last weeks or months w/ unflavored or clean burning juice. Horizontal coils can make wick change very quick and easy.

Good to know. I'm trying to get there...

I'm assuming you're talking about Kayfun horizontal coils. Should I have my microcoil sitting straight between the posts (at 9:00 and 3:00) or at an angle?

 

[emus]

Good to know. I'm trying to get there...

I'm assuming you're talking about Kayfun horizontal coils. Should I have my microcoil sitting straight between the posts (at 9:00 and 3:00) or at an angle?

I prefer horizontal coils in genny style tank toppers because they are very easy to wick plus they produce tasty vapor.

I run horizontal in my gravity feed aqua (similar to kayfun); never experimented w/ vertical coil aqua so don't know if I'd like better or not.

 

[BK_Malik]

If only imeo could provide his insight on this... GG ufs was good. Guess you don't like doing any extra work to get great capes from products. I drip the nimbus and it's great. Drippers are good and easy to switch flavors


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Not really true about me not wanting to do extra work. I have a Trident, Nimbus, and a Kayfun 3.1. The problem is that the larger the coil the more metal I can taste, which is why I like atomizer nano size coils and even a good quality cartomizer (like Ikenvape's). I also like to have something that is guaranteed to work most of the time without building.

Input from Imeo would be great here. The idea of the UFS is good but it's way too fiddly and way too large for it's purpose when all that's really needed is an atomizer that will auto-feed by itself.

 

[BK_Malik]

I have several varieties of tank toppers and they all work great. Some were built in 2013 and still work perfect. Wicks can be built to over wick and leak on side, under wick and burn or just right. Once you discover just right wick style it is easy to duplicate.

I'm satisfied w/ toppers. My complaint is switches. I wonder when the factories will start making closer tolerance switches w/o excess slop.

Sorry, what do you mean by "tank toppers"?

Agree with you on the switches, that's why I stick with Provari's even though when I whip one out in a vape shop they look at me like I just stepped out of the Stone Age lol...

 

[emus]

Sorry, what do you mean by "tank toppers"?

Agree with you on the switches, that's why I stick with Provari's even though when I whip one out in a vape shop they look at me like I just stepped out of the Stone Age lol...

I mean a rebuildable tank atomizer like AGT, AGI, AGA-T2, etc. Inspired by genny. Not to be confused w/ an RTA. Hope you don't ask me what is an RTA cuz I haven't a clue.