Why I don't visit here too often

[Eileithia]

Because every time I come to ECF, I find out about new toys and tech that makes me want to empty my bank account. I just recently decided to replace a couple Twists that were getting tired.. so what happened..

I come to ECF.. read a bunch of reviews and now I have:

2 iTaste VV for work
1 iTaste MVP for home / weekends
2 iClear 30's
5 Replacement heads for iClear 30's
More Phoenix cartos
4 V Nanos that will take up space in my junk bin
5 iClear 10's
5 new juice samples that I don't REALLY need
3 new drip tips
And and overwhelming urge to stalk the mailman.

Damn you people and your vaping voodoo.

 

[Griff.J]

How are the iClear 30s? I heard they're really freaking good..?! but I'd prefer delrin between my lips instead of metal.. And not really into the floppy head.. but I hear otherwise they're awesome.. ?!

 

[Heavyrocker]

Just wait till you get into mech mods.

 

[ForeverTwoWheels]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I started with a Vamo and a couple of Carto/Pro Tanks and thought I was set. Then I discovered Mechs and Rebuildables now my table's full and my wishlist gets longer everyday, not to mention all the juices that I just have to try.

 

[Griff.J]

I've not really liked the idea of using a bottom button. Can't APVs push as much oomph as a mech? I guess from what I've seen a mech is better with a sub-ohm coil but I can't imagine needing a coil to be less than 1ohm to have a satisfying vape with a huge cloud of vapour. So what am I missing?

 

[Eileithia]

I haven't tried the iClear 30's yet. (Still in the mail) but will post some comments here once I've had a chance to use them. I did read they can be finicky, but once you get past the learning curve they vape amazingly well.

Not quite ready to even think about rebuildables / mechs at this point. I still prefer the more "automatic" approach you get from VV/APV devices. Sadly have too many other hobbies that take time away from messing with my vape gear

 

[Eileithia]

Double post.. please delete.

 

[Heavyrocker]

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I've not really liked the idea of using a bottom button. Can't APVs push as much oomph as a mech? I guess from what I've seen a mech is better with a sub-ohm coil but I can't imagine needing a coil to be less than 1ohm to have a satisfying vape with a huge cloud of vapour. So what am I missing?

1.Save money on wicks and wire.
2 Taste better,massive clouds
3 Easy to build than the tiny clero tanks.
4.A decent mech will live longer than you.
5.Looks sexy.
6.Can be used with SS Cable Rope wicks.

Mine has a side button,but i dont mind the bottom buttons either.VV/VW mods cant use coils at 1.2 and under,i use SS cable rope ,3 wrap,.70 ohm and i have a freight train

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[lamarrk]

I've not really liked the idea of using a bottom button. Can't APVs push as much oomph as a mech? I guess from what I've seen a mech is better with a sub-ohm coil but I can't imagine needing a coil to be less than 1ohm to have a satisfying vape with a huge cloud of vapour. So what am I missing?

Heavyrocker already hit the nail on the head. Most all VV/VW mods cannot fire a coil that's less than 1.2~1.3 Ω. So, if you want to use a 1.0 Ω coil, you have to use a mech mod. Example, I re-coiled a Protank at .9 Ω and it won't work on anything except my mech mods. Vapes great.

 

[farmer_bric]

How are the iClear 30s? I heard they're really freaking good..?! but I'd prefer delrin between my lips instead of metal.. And not really into the floppy head.. but I hear otherwise they're awesome.. ?!

They are freaking good I use a lot of "stuff", and yes Heavyrocker I use mech mods with SS wire for my RSST, but nothing but nothing beats the iClear 30s for ease of use and vaping quality, imho. I do agree that it would be nice if they offered a standard driptip, rather than that tooth enamel chipping monstrosity, but it is what it is

The one thing I really like about them, aside from the great vape, is that they are quite easy to maintain. Every 4 days, I rinse them out, do a dry burn, and it's like a new coil again.

 

[Heavyrocker]

Heavyrocker already hit the nail on the head. Most all VV/VW mods cannot fire a coil that's less than 1.2~1.3 Ω. So, if you want to use a 1.0 Ω coil, you have to use a mech mod. Example, I re-coiled a Protank at .9 Ω and it won't work on anything except my mech mods. Vapes great.

The Provari i hear can fire at .90 ohms but watt limit is 3.2.

 

[Griff.J]

I do agree that it would be nice if they offered a standard driptip, rather than that tooth enamel chipping monstrosity, but it is what it is

Wha-pow! iClear 30 with a Standard Drip Tip Mod. I think I might pick up an iClear 30

 

[SloHand]

Because every time I come to ECF, I find out about new toys and tech that makes me want to empty my bank account. I just recently decided to replace a couple Twists that were getting tired.. so what happened..

I come to ECF.. read a bunch of reviews and now I have:

2 iTaste VV for work
1 iTaste MVP for home / weekends
2 iClear 30's
5 Replacement heads for iClear 30's
More Phoenix cartos
4 V Nanos that will take up space in my junk bin
5 iClear 10's
5 new Juice samples that I don't REALLY need
3 new drip tips
And and overwhelming urge to stalk the mailman.

Damn you people and your vaping voodoo.

LMFAO! You write to complain about being sucked in and all the posts after your are for more gear! LOL.

 

[VictorViper]

I was so very, very thrilled with my eGo/Kanger T3.

I was so very, very thrilled with my MVP/ProTank.

I am so very, very thrilled with my mech/RDA.

...*next step pending*

[EDIT] I forgot to mention the good part: all three still have their place!

 

[Eileithia]

LMFAO! You write to complain about being sucked in and all the posts after your are for more gear! LOL.

So you understand my problem

 

[Eileithia]

Heavyrocker already hit the nail on the head. Most all VV/VW mods cannot fire a coil that's less than 1.2~1.3 Ω. So, if you want to use a 1.0 Ω coil, you have to use a mech mod. Example, I re-coiled a Protank at .9 Ω and it won't work on anything except my mech mods. Vapes great.

My question is, why would you need to vape sub 1.0Ω?
Is it extended battery life? (Vaping well at lower voltage)
Extremely high wattage vape?

As I understand it, it's really watts that matter. Heating a coil to that sweet spot where you get the best flavour / vapor production. If you have a device that hits that watt range for you easily, how is it any different?

If your sweet spot is 8 watts, how is vaping a 1.2Ω carto at 3.7V any different from vaping 0.6Ω at 2.2V? (Aside from the lower power requirement)

Just curious.

 

[albertbert]

My question is, why would you need to vape sub 1.0Ω?
Is it extended battery life? (Vaping well at lower voltage)
Extremely high wattage vape?

As I understand it, it's really watts that matter. Heating a coil to that sweet spot where you get the best flavour / vapor production. If you have a device that hits that watt range for you easily, how is it any different?

If your sweet spot is 8 watts, how is vaping a 1.2Ω carto at 3.7V any different from vaping 0.6Ω at 2.2V? (Aside from the lower power requirement)

Just curious.

That's not how it works. Batteries die much faster when using sub ohm, you are using a lot more power. You don't run a mech at 2.2, it uses whatever voltage the battery is at. You do get some voltage drop depending on what mech you use, but it would be more like 0.6 ohms at 4 volts. Which is something like 7 amps and 26 watts.

lamarrk's 0.9 ohm protank coil would be drawing around 5 amps and putting out around 18 watts.

I agree that it's unnecessary though, the 11 watts or whatever i'm able to get out of my zmax is good enough for me.

 

[Eileithia]

Ya.. I get that mechs run around 4V. I just don't think anything over 8-10 Watts is even necessary. Most juice burns to crap over 10 watts. Unless you're doing flavourless for just a stupid amount of vapor and burning through juice like water, there's really no reason.

Anyhow.. Got the MVP and iClear 30's in the mail today. MVP is a pretty solid little unit. More substantial feeling than I thought it would be. So far so good. Unloaded voltage is bang on on my multimeter.

iClear 30 is a pretty decent little tank. I find the flavour a little muted compared to the Phoenix carto (which is damn near dripping) but much more vapor production. sweet spot seems to be around 4.2v with this one. No leaks to speak of, and hits like a champ. I still think they're a little over-hyped but good value for the money. Overall satisfied with it and will be a nice little unit for around the house.