Why I'm Still Using A Vision Spinner Over MOD / APVs

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Okay, I've been vaping for a little while now and love it. No more negative smells, ash, insane costs, negative chemicals etc. Weapon of choice (at the moment) are 2 1300mAh Vision Spinners. Why? Because I can't find what I want and really don't think it's obtainable - sigh

I want to get into RBAs and know it isn't the best idea to do so with ego style batteries. So I need a mod / APV. Okay, fine but I can't find one that I like. Call me too picky or say I'm asking for the moon. That's fine but I don't think what I want to be unreasonable at all. I mean we are so far past where we stood as a community / industry from just a few years ago.

Please, you must be joking you say... well let' see if you can find one that fits the bill.

What I want in a MOD / APV - and good luck!

• Protected MOD / APV - while there are many that love and have mechanical devices I'm not ready. I want a protected device to make the move from simple ego style to a MOD / APV with less concern over battery issues. This is not a thread to talk about how safe mechs are... I just want a protected device. This does not include mechs with separate fail safe fuses.

• Threads for both 510 and ego - while I could get an adapter why should I? I use 510 and ego threaded stuff, have a ton of parts and heads and blah blah blah... it needs both. Yes, there is a lot to be said about using an adapter to get what you want or to save your 510 threads but that just brings me to my next bullet point.

• Build Quality - I don't like the idea of some China Made devices being talked about as it might come to you perfect or it might not. The device might be good for a day, week, month or who knows but then again you get what you pay for. No, if it is made and sold it should be made with quality IMO. So may people have talked about the Vamo being a great device but in the same breath talk about it being all over the range of quality that it turned me off.

• Looks - oh boy, here we go. Since this is different for everyone let me jut tell you what I think looks sexy. Lavatube v2.0 or v2.5 (bodies are the same), eVic, Wizard Evolved and the Wizard Apprentice Evolved as SS is fine for me and a few others. Oh, and the Tree of Life looks amazing. There are others to but this should be a fair cross section.

• Multi-Button Controls - I don't like the single button for fire, menu, adjustments, etc as fond on the Zmax and others. I want a three button system or like the eVic where the fire button is separate from the adjustment ring.

• Back to Treads - I don't want to worry that my threads are going to pop off, no longer work, get jacked up from one RBA to a carto etc. The soft threads statement makes me really nervous.

• Size - Would still like the option of not having to carry a backpack to just have my mod with me. I mean if the Lavatube V2.5 had both 510 and ego threads I would be 98% sold (damn it looks sexy) but it is still really large / thick (that's what she said). eVic seems to be an okay size but sick of hearing about the treads being so weak and power limits... and I would like to use 18650s... on to my next bullet point.

• Power Limits - I don't currently do sub ohms but still think a device should be able to put out enough power to handle it. I mean if a cheap Vamo can then why can't a more expensive device like an eVic?

• Cost - I'm willing to spend $80.00 - $100.00 for the device. So this puts me in the range of the Lavatube and eVic (80ish for unit or 100ish for a basic kit). I think the eVic when all said and done was around $135.00 (kit + extra battery + charger). The Lavatube was around $125.00 I think when all said and done. This is because I want at least 2 2000mAh+ batteries and a charger so the kit didn't work for me cost wise. It was better to get the body + 2 18650s and a charger as the kit's case, carto tank and eJuice didn't matter to me.

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Evolution of My Frustration:

Vamo V3 : cheap and powerful unit. So why not? It's large with the 18650s and I have no idea of the quality that it will be when I get it (based on many many many reviews I've seen). It also don't compare to the looks of others but isn't horrible.

Lavatube V2.5 : sexy device but for them to come out with the V2 and then the V2.5 and still not offer ego threads kind of turns me off. Then the size issue is a kind of a negative to me as well.

eVic : I though I was sold on this but the power limit and very weak threads are turning me off.

SIGH :confused:

Again, call me picky or say I'm asking for the moon but I love to vape but have no desire to collect a million different devices just because nothing fits the bill. There should be something out there that offers these mainstream things IMO. I guess I just needed to vent... thanks for listening... well, reading I mean lol

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Innokin Itaste MVP2. I have one and love it. Sure it has an internal battery which will eventually die out, but the lifespan of an MVP can go anywhere from 1-2 years in which there will be even better mods out there that you could save up for. For around $45 shipped, you really can't beat it. Fire button is seperate from VV and VW buttons and it has an ohm checker. eGo threading and 510 threading to support just about any device you will put on it. It also has the passthrough capability so it can be vaped when charging and the dimensions are 4.21"L x 1.61"W x 0.86"D. I was not a fan of box mods but when I got it, it just feels right. The battery is 2600mah and I get easily 2 days out of a single charge. It is pocket friendly and wallet friendly so you can spend money on a nice RBA if you choose so.

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Innokin Itaste MVP2 $39.99
IGO-W RDA $11.99
 

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If it were me I'll go with the zmax but... and then probably the MVP
you don't want a chinese mod, just remember where your spinners come from.
you won't find the perfect setup with your requirements but almost any mod you could get will be miles apart from your spinners
that is a really important line to remember, I'll say it again in bold
you won't find the perfect setup with your requirements but almost any mod you could get will be miles apart from your spinners

you can get a cheap but great mech mod and put a kick on it
 

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I'd say the MVP v2. But it has compromises.

Vamo's are huge, SVD's are huge too and vamos have some qa issues.

Most china vv/vw are not too subohm friendly even though in theory they should be able to handle it.

Honestly, I'd pick up a smok magneto (there are versions with ego threading, you can also buy an ego threaded cap separate) and a kick 2. The kick 2 has all the protections any vv/vw mod would have. It also has stuff like low battery warnings and so on. It fires subohms with no issue and regulates better than pretty much any china vv/vw. Again, a bit of a compromise but magnetos are well built, you're placing a high quality chip in it and it would be 80-100 dollars depending on what you get the magneto for.

Also, once you start upgrading your atomizers...you will not care at all about the ego threads.
 
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Some of these newbs would never have lasted back in 2009 - 2010.:)

Probably not, but how does your comment help?

To the OP >

Build quality is an issue, but it is an issue you are going to have to get used to, even with your spinners. Once you buy the batteries and the chargers, you won't have to buy them again. So if you are not handy with electronics, at worst you'll just have to buy a replacement PV if the one you do get goes belly-up.

Also keep in mind that mods tend to look bigger than many of them really are.

As to threading issues, it amazes me that it hasn't been fixed on the vamo. They are up to v5 and still haven't rectified the issue. Innokin has quality issues as well but they at least work to fix those issues on the next version of their devices.

In the end you will just have to settle. The spinners may be okay but you are losing performance with vv.

My guess is if you take care of the product it should last longer than if you don't. That is just where we are with these devices since companies like Panasonic, Sony, etc. Seem to have no interest and the Provari doesn't fit your needs or budget.

Sent from my Astromech in a galaxy far, far away. The force is with me. so is Mr. chicken.
 

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I looked long and hard at the MVP V2 and almost pulled the trigger. My only concerns were the battery not be replaceable and the fact it's a box mod. Just not sure how I feel about box mods... it really changes day to day for me.

I will add this to the "if I can't find what I want in a tube mod" list. Thank you very much for the recommendation and pics.
 

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My issue isn't with things made in China per se but more of the point of reference that the build quality issues are far greater with mods / apvs coming from there. This is to the point of my Spinners coming from China.

Yes, they are made in China but I don't have an issue with their build quality. If the Provari had build quality issues I wouldn't want it either. Hope this clears that up... don't want people thinking I'm hating on China.
 

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you can get a zmax from a reputable vendor that offers a 90 day warranty, if it comes with some defect you can get it replaced, if it comes without issues then you will have a great very durable mod, the zmax issues have to do with factory defects not durability, once you get it you can tell by the first 3 days if it is a keeper or you need a replacement. I know you don't like the 1 button but trust me after 30 minutes of using it you'll soon find out that it doesn't matter, it just works great! I did used mine for a couple of months every day every minute until I got into mechs
 

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You are probably very correct in this statement. I was smoking a pack a day during your 2009-2010 time period and if there wasn't something like my 801Ds from GreenSmoke that got me off analogs and my Vision Spinners and CE5s that made it fun and enjoyable to not smoke I don't think it would have worked.

But I did stop smoking analogs in 2013 and therefore the industry is far greater in size and offerings then in 2009. I would expect mainstream trends to have a greater impact on the vape world as we know it.

I'm a total noob and okay with that as it will change in the time, however people not helping the less knowledgeable about offerings and options out there will never change in public forums. Kind of a head scratcher as to which is the greater crime :)
 

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Maybe I'm overly concerned about the "thread" weakness of say the eVic. Does anyone know if the threads are any more weak / strong then say the Vision Spinner?

I've just seen a few posts and vids talking about the threads totally going and was very concerned over that. I've had zero issues and zero play in my threads no matter what I place on the Vision Spinner.
 
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