Why is it all getting so complicated and technical with delivery units?

[inanitydefined]

In all honesty I had a provari that I just traded off for a couple of different mods. I havent been using it much as of late. While its a great device, the vivi nova I'm using now performs great on an old riva battery. All together I don't have $30 in this setup and it gets used daily. I'm sure that'll change once my new toys arrive but my point is you don't *need* the highest end equipment to enjoy your vape. As easy as the vivi nova is to rebuild I certainly don't see much need to upgrade to a $150+ rba.

 

[Huffelpuff]

Cause it's fun . Experimenting with juices, hardware and different types of atties is an avocation for me. Something that I enjoy like some enjoy an expensive bottle of wine or (as was mentioned) a fine cigar. The community part makes it fun too - love the vendors and the members that I get to meet here.

 

[Titanium]

Did I mention I have an addiction to banana Hi-Chew?

 

[mitsuhashi]

Agree with a lot of people here. I think a 3.7v battery is enough to "satisfy" most vapers. It's looking for the "best" that's gonna cost hundreds and thousands of bucks.

A Provari at 3.7 volts should theoretically provide no better vape than a Riva at 3.7 volts.

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[Titanium]

Agree with a lot of people here. I think a 3.7v battery is enough to "satisfy" most vapers. It's looking for the "best" that's gonna cost hundreds and thousands of bucks.

A Provari at 3.7 volts should theoretically provide no better vape than a Riva at 3.7 volts.

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Except for that the Provari is extremely high quality and has great warranty.
It's like a Rolex to a Timex, a Socom to a Leek, which one would you trust with your life?

 

[inanitydefined]

Except for that the Provari is extremely high quality and has great warranty.
It's like a Rolex to a Timex, a Socom to a Leek, which one would you trust with your life?

I'd certainly take an atomic quartz movement watch over a swiss movement watch. My dad has had one certain Timex for over 15 years, been through hell and still keeps great time. Fancy is fancy but its not always practical. And I'd never be caught dead at a formal occasion with a provari. Its vulgar. I carry my SD keyring instead and vape great

 

[mitsuhashi]

Except for that the Provari is extremely high quality and has great warranty.
It's like a Rolex to a Timex, a Socom to a Leek, which one would you trust with your life?

Not everyone needs a Rolex, the same way not everyone needs a Provari.

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[rlh445]

I respect that but vaping nicotine shouldnt be a "hobby" but a way of quitting smoking and then quitting nicotine, perhaps this is why some government agencies want it banned?

Ohhhh, I see, so you're trolling. Gotcha. You have 47 posts on a forum dedicated to vaping and you're talking about banning vaping devices? Okay!

 

[jimmyh]

Even though I used this to quit smoking and down the road quit nicotine, it has become a hobby for me. Its no different to me than buying an old car and spending thousands restoring it. Different strokes for different folks. By the way I don't own a high end unit just like I don't own a high end car. Its none of my business what people spend their money on.

 

[Thrasher]

like others posted if you use this to quit smoking then stop vaping. good for you!
i dont have this option i smoked 2PAD for 35 years and nothing was able to stop me , gum, patches, anything i tried failed.
I had to admit to myself that im going to die as a smoker. then I found this, and started with cheap stuff. even if i dont vape nic im going through the motions of smoking with something like flavored 0nic.
after moving up i see a real difference in the quality of the vape and even when i try I just dont enjoy using my ego with a nova anymore, it doesnt get it done.

i wouldnt buy a 60 dollar chinese POS guitar, why should i be forced to settle for that when i vape?

if they take vaping away from me today, tomorrow i will have a parliament in my hand.

like I said if you can do this and then walk away i envy you a bit, and you should feel good about being able to do that
i cant so im going to enjoy it. and if the less expensive more expendable stuff works for you fell good and enjoy - i dont like spending money on things i throw away

llike zen says about the zenesis - this is NOT a smoking cessation device and I agree its a cigarette replacement device and its giving me my health back.
i would classify cheap ecigs as smoking cessation devices.

 

[KillTheNoise]

Fish tacos are incredible btw...I use tilapia seasoned with Arizona Dreaming from Penzi Spices. Ohh I would love some right now actually.

As for on the topic of this post, I bought a cigalike the first day I stopped dipping...the second day I found these forums...the third day I went and bought an eGo-C upgrade. Only after I bought that eGo did I realize this is my new found addiction/hobby, however you want to put it. I'm a computer/gaming geek so I love the technical side of vaping, it's extremely fun!

 

[JudeD]

I guess I don't really understand why you care what other people decide they want or need with their own money. We could all get where we need to go in a Honda Civic, so why should anyone be allowed to buy a Mercedes or a Cadillac? If you were just genuinely curious about what members find so appealing about Provaris and Rios, I apologize, but to me, it sounded like you were making a judgment call on what everyone should have and use based on what worked for you and what you think is the right equipment for everyone.

I started with a stick e-cig and would never have quit smoking analogs if I had stayed with just that. Then I moved to an ego-C and while it helped me quit, I still had cravings because it wasn't satisfying. I probably would have eventually given in to those cravings, but luckily I found the twist, Stardusts, a provari and vivi novas. Thanks to the increased warmth in the vapor, the richer flavor, and the thicker vapor, I no longer have cravings and I haven't had a cigarette in seven + months. I enjoy vaping, I enjoy trying new flavors, I like trying new advancements and delivery systems, and I don't have plans to give it up anytime soon. Some people are happy with a basic cell phone that only allows them to make and receive phone calls and others prefer a smart phone that accesses the internet, has apps, stores music, and can send texts and emails. Should everyone have to downgrade to a basic phone because that's all that is really necessary for calls?

I don't mean to be snippy, but I just don't understand why some people are so concerned with what other people buy with their own money. Maybe you were just curious, but lately it seems like there are people who want to make others feel guilty for anything they have that everyone else doesn't have, too.

 

[flintlock62]

You don't understand. The government isn't collecting taxes like they do on cigarettes. That's ALL they care about, TAXES! They could care less if you die, as long as they get their TAXES!

I respect that but vaping nicotine shouldnt be a "hobby" but a way of quitting smoking and then quitting nicotine, perhaps this is why some government agencies want it banned?

 

[NancyR]

The first e cig i tried was an analog look alike from China then I purchased an ego t because that was the buzz then, i now use analog look alikes and even the disposables are as good as the ego t ever was.

What I dont understand is if basic units give enough vape why do we need bigger or better?

If the 808's or the ego-t was enough for you more power to you. The ego-t was my first set up. Between the leaking, and other issues with it, it didn't help me.

A BB with a vivi nova did however. Now I have rebuildables, they give me a much better vape, they have allowed me to drop my nic lvl to less than half of what I had been vaping.

Nothing in vaping is a one size fits all, and while the cig look alikes work for some they don't work for all of us.

 

[AlmightyGod]

We are the 1% who will drive the R&D to the next level where noobs will be able to get the best quality vape without all of the tech knowledge. The experimentation & expensive devices will one day lead to the availability of the same tech in something the size of an 808 carto.

 

[Johnnie Price]

Echo chamber!

What's working for me is a simple vGo with a 901-T system. I'd probably be happy with the stick batteries too, but I'd need about 4 of them and a PCC to keep up with my vaping pace. This one 1300 mAh pass-thru cost me a third of what all that would have, and now I'm free to try new devices/systems without having to worry about buying another pack of cigs every other day because my battery died again.

Honestly, I started vaping to save money. My wife had her hours severely cut 3 months ago and we've literally been going into the red every month because of my addiction. Nothing was helping me to quit, especially with the stress of the holidays. Since I got my X2, I've been saving $150.00+ a month, so now the bills can get paid and my 4 year old can have a birthday party and Christmas presents.

I enjoyed smoking. I still would if not for the cost. Now I enjoy vaping. I may never quit. And as long as I'm not breaking the bank or harming my child's health, I see no reason to.

 

[flintlock62]

A disposable is as good as a eGo-T? The first thing I tried was a disposable; I paid $30 for three of them. At the end of the second day, the batteries had all died. I almost continued smoking analogs because I didn't know eGo's were out there. I smoked for 40 years and tried all the different methods, including the anti-depressants that has been so touted. Those WONDER DRUGS also have caused some people to go off their rockers and kill themselves. I wonder if the guy who killed all those children was on anti-depressants?

The first e cig i tried was an analog look alike from China then I purchased an ego t because that was the buzz then, i now use analog look alikes and even the disposables are as good as the ego t ever was.

What I dont understand is if basic units give enough vape why do we need bigger or better?

 

[SissySpike]

I respect that but vaping nicotine shouldnt be a "hobby" but a way of quitting smoking and then quitting nicotine, perhaps this is why some government agencies want it banned?

And why should it not be a hobby? I respect this is your opinion. Just because you do not want to get some cool mods and be content as a vapor dose not mean its wrong. Further more how could you in your wildest dreams justify government agency's intruding in our lives any more that they do at present.
Theres nothing in the constitution that says I have to eat 2000 calories and exercise 2 hr a day. I chose to vape and collect vaping gizmos if you do not then please move on. Live and let live sir!

 

[Faylool]

Some needs and wants just need fulfilling and when it's for a greater good the justification to go hog wild is there. I've always made sure I had plenty of everything. Ex: toilet paper. Why bother buying one roll when you know your going to use it on a daily basis and what if the cat shreds it to pieces? Also it's kind of like people who must where seeing glasses. It becomes a part of who you are. Also the better the prescription the better the results are. If a person is happy with moderate vaper and low to no throat hit because that is actually what fulfills you then that person will have no need to search for more than that. Plus that person is not alone. I've often imagined my self just sipping a tasty drink like ginger ale kombucha. It's expensive and I visualize myself taking nice little portions and being satisfied. Doesn't work. My reality is to jug about 14 th at a time and make another. Different strokes for different folks

 

[Buggs5347]

Different strokes for different folks.

I like cig-a-likes and still use my Blu every single day. Haven't touched a real cig since the second day of using the Blu. However, it's really fun to try different gizmos and gadgets. They all give a little different vape and taste. Different PV's do make a difference in your vape even using the very same delivery system. Also, people have different goals. My goal is to get to 0 nic. I was able to reduce my nic easily on the prefilled cartos, until I tried to go lower than 12 mg. It was so nice to use eliquids to step it down more gradually. I mixed 12 mg with the next lower mg nic at different ratios until I was adjusted to the new lower mg. That has worked out so great for me. I'm now almost at 0 mg.