Why Mech mods
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Essentially it is a mech with a protection chip. Either way, with a protection chip, you cannot match the power output of a Mechanical mod unregulated.
But there are Mosfet chips capable of handling upwards of 30A. Assuming you're running some 26650's this is totally foreseeable, and would absolutely blow a mech out of the water.
Not to mention (and it's probably worth mentioning), a .15 ohm build will pull 28A/120W at 4.2V, but by the time the battery drops to 3.9V you're only pulling 90W/24A. Last I checked, the IPV3 is capable of handling .15 ohm builds (maybe not at max wattage, but it's not like your mech mod is pumping out 165W at any given point.) The IPV3 could pump out 120W consistently, till your batteries are drained to the point of being unusable -- presumably a solid hour or two of vaping at the very least. How about your mech mod?
People use MOSFETs in unregulated mods. A MOSFET is not a protection chip... it just is a relay for the low power switch to turn on unregulated power to the atomizer.
Exactly =)I don’t sub-ohm and I’m not a cloud chaser. Here are some of the reasons why I continue to use and prefer mechanical mods to regulated VV/VW devices:
1) Form factor – I regularly use small mechanical mods with 18350 batteries that are easy to pocket and carry around. Although there are regulated devices that take 18350 batteries, they are bigger because they need to include electronics.
2) Durability – Like most consumer electronic devices, I believe that a regulated mod is ultimately doomed to fail (even if you baby it and take great care of it). I like that as long as I keep my mechanical mods safe and clean that they will work forever.
3) Simplicity – I like that my mechanical mods are only comprised of a handful of parts and that they’re easy to dismantle and completely clean. There’s only a single button and no need to scroll through menus and I like that. I typically make 1.3ohm coils and I vape between 10W and 13W throughout the charge of a battery. It really doesn’t matter to me that every puff isn’t the same.
4) Aesthetics – I have a bunch of mechanical mods that employ different materials (SS, brass, copper, and aluminum) and I personally find them more visually appealing than any of the regulated devices that I’ve seen.
This is what I'm vaping on right now - you're not going to find a smaller regulated mod, this guy is built from a solid piece of aluminum with no electronics to fail, it has a single firing button that locks, and I love the look of it:
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So are we determining that mosfet = unregulated?
Because last I checked, an unregulated mod has NO circuitry whatsoever, and even though it's not an intelligent piece of electronics, it is still electronics of some kind. Is that not regulation?
thats wrong. mosfet = unregulated. unregulated can have wires even.
mech = no wires. mech is always unregulated. but unregulated is not always mech. But neither are regulated.
mech = no wires. mech is always unregulated. but unregulated is not always mech. But neither are regulated.
some people call unregulated box mods "semi-mechanical" if they have wires and MOSFET
It's like Colibri that is also not mech. Because of it's chip, you can vape only on 0,7 oHm and more, but not less
Mechanical mods were all we had in the beginning. In fact, at first there were only the cigalike batteries. People wanted longer battery life, so they modified flashlights that used larger batteries to vape with....hense the word "mod" was born.
Then variable voltage/regulated mods came out and for the most part replaced mechanical mods. But then cloud chasing and sub-ohm vaping became popular. The regulated mods at that time didn't have enough power to fire sub-ohm atomizers, but a mech could, so mechs enjoyed a resurgence in popularity.
Now there are higher powered regulated mods which can fire a sub-ohm coil. Now there is a choice should you prefer to dwell in the sub-ohm world.
No, its not like that. An unregulated box with MOSFET has no limit. You can drop resistance to 0... or until you burn out the wires and MOSFET and explode the batteries. It has no regulation. It is the same concept as a mech but because of the wires and MOSFET, it is not a "true" mechanical. Its just an unregulated mod.
With a single 18650 I can get about 6 hours of clean clouds before I hit 3.6v. Then it goes back on the charger and I put in... my other battery, which I carry anyway.
What ohm coil are you using on your mech? Because at .4 I could get maybe an hour or two of solid vaping before needing to swap out my 18650. On tough work days I'd bring 4 batteries to work and usually need to charge 3 by the time I got home. One of the 3, if I recall correctly, was lower than 3.5V (danger zone).
I'm not really going to argue which is better (because there is no "better"), but I will argue towards my preference, which is for consistency and safety -- something which is virtually guaranteed in a regulated mod. Sure, "when the chip fails you're screwed" etc., but I haven't experienced that in any of my regulated mods thus far, aside from one obvious user error (if you're curious: put batteries backwards into an OKL-T20 with no reverse polarity protection -- fried the chip instantly. On a positive note, the batteries didn't discharge or anything scary.)
Though I agree that it isn't a "true" mechanical and is more of a "semi mechanical" the day I start splitting hairs like that, I'll be done vaping.
.16 ohm
Yes, by the end the clouds are reduced. But blowing 2 foot wide clouds I don't have to hit my mod every 5 seconds all day.
According to Steam Engine (and it's certainly not 100% accurate in this regard), you only got 6 minutes of total runtime out of your 18650 battery at that ohms (and I picked the highest mAh battery preset). 6 minutes of run time would not last me a whole day, regardless of the size of the clouds.
I group them together too... especially since they work exactly the same way. I own many mechs and unregulated boxes, I even have some purely mechanical dual battery boxes. I was simply differentiating because many people prefer the mech for its purity of no wires or solder points.
I'm not going to sit here and argue the point any longer. I hit it for 2-3 seconds at a time. You do the math on 6 minutes of run time.
And my point stands. An unregulated mod will ALWAYS out draw ANY regulated mod of the same caliber.
A reason I haven't seen mentioned yet is the looming FDA regulations . If nothing changes with those soon and we get knocked back to 2007 level vape gear , those without mechs will be very sad when the electronics in their devices fail . That's not an if , that's a when , electronics will fail . I have both regulated and mechmods and I prefer the whole experience of vaping on a mech but aside from that between DIY and mechs I know I'll still be vaping if the hammer falls on us .
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