Sure. Are you willing to pay $250 for the upgrade module?
Why no user upgradable firmware?
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Sure. Are you willing to pay $250 for the upgrade module?
The reason so many new mods come out is because most are just junk. The companies selling them know that, so get people to buy the 'latest and greatest' before their current model fails...
That's true, a lot of junk comes out of China. I would say that at the moment there are 3 great chips. Those made by Evolv, the ones made by Yihi and the chips in the P3. Out of those 3 only Yihi and Provape also produce complete mods. I own a mod by both makers and I can tell you the SX Mini is even better build than a ProVari. If anyone wants to spend $200 on a mod I know which one I will recommend. Not because the P3 is a bad device, but because it only does one thing and it does it in a very limited way. It's a niche product while the SX Mini is designed as an all-round mod that offers something for beginners and experienced vapers.
That's the point I'm trying to make. If they would have made it user upgradable, there would have been no need for the programmer.
And if they did...
What would your next complaint be?!?
Move on already, ProVari is not for you.
watch these two videos and then tell us how ProVape is going to fail ... you think maybe the NASA guys will be the first layoffs?
My point is that messing with the code of the controller can cause safety feature to not operate or cause hardware failure. There were posts that indicated that user modifications of the code was the target.
It doesn't matter what degree you have or how awesome your product is. If it doesn't meet the needs of the of the market you are going to go out of business. Right now Provape is a niche company and if they want to stay around they will have to expand their portfolio. Right now the market is moving in the direction of temperature control and rightly so. Temperature control is the future, but we haven't heard anything from Provape they're even considering doing anything like this. We all started vaping because of harm reduction and TC offers an even safer vape. So what are people doing? They're moving to Evolv and Yihi. My ProVari 2.5 hasn't been used in over a year since I first discovered TC and there are thousands like me, and more are joining the TC ranks every day. We are all customers that Provape will never win back unless they get with the game. Unfortunately for Provape, Evolv holds the patent on TC in the USA. So tell me, what can Provape do to secure their future?
New vapers are just cheap. TC is a marketing gimmick the way it is now implemented. It is too sketchy for new vapers and experienced vapers don't need it...
No, it's not a marketing gimmick, it works. The SX350J was tested publicly during a trade show with a system from FLIR and was shown to be very accurate. It's what experienced vapers want, why else would we all flock to these devices? It seems to me you understand the market as well as Provape does, not at all.
So a new vaper who knows nothing of building coils, wicking, airflow, juice viscosities can pick one up and use it right away? Those who have mastered such things don't get dry hits. As I said, gimmick the way it is now implemented...
When ProVape does release plug-and-play TC with their tank and their coils, then we'll be onto something...
Then they would just outsource the manufacturing to China and there would be another low quality, cheaply built box on the market...
Yes. Ever heard of pre-build nickel and titanium coils? These are available for most tanks.
So apparently you think the competition is going to sit still and stop innovating.
These same new vapers, who don't want to spend more than $100 on a set up aren't going to use disposable $4 coil/wicks. They want clouds for cheap...
I'm not sure what the competition is. Dani, SvoeMesto?
The cheap China box mods compete for lowest cost, not longevity, durability and customer service. They are in a different class...
ProVape's market is not the growing, youthful, cloud chasing, hipster who has never smoked cigarettes market... ProVape's market is the massive amount of smokers looking for a smoking alternative.
That's the same market Evolv, Yihi, Dicodes and other respected manufacturers are targeting. There's one big difference however. A board form Evolv or Yihi is suited for both beginners and experienced vapers. Someone who starts out with a ProVari and wants to move up has to buy a new device. That's why I always recommend a DNA40 (and soon a DNA200) or Yihi mod.
This is all I'm going to say, because I'm coming to the conclusion that this is a troll thread. What you seem to be oblivious to is that not everyone wants your 1000 watt box mod. Thats where a Provari fits. Not everyone wants or gives a crap about temp control. Thats where Provari fits. Not everyone cares about .001 ohm bro cloud chasing. Thats where Provari fits.
What your assuming (you know what happens when you assume!) is that EVERYONE vapes like you do, or wants the same kinds of devices that you do. Which is simply not the case! Some folks want an easy to use "Tootle Puffer" device. Guess what... Thats where Provari fits!
As a side note:
I challenge you to search ECF (or any other vaping forum for that matter) for a "My Provari exploded", or a "My Provari vented it's battery" thread.
...it's ok, I'll wait.
What your assuming (you know what happens when you assume!) is that EVERYONE vapes like you do, or wants the same kinds of devices that you do. Which is simply not the case! Some folks want an easy to use "Tootle Puffer" device. Guess what... Thats where Provari fits!
As a side note:
I challenge you to search ECF (or any other vaping forum for that matter) for a "My Provari exploded", or a "My Provari vented it's battery" thread.
...it's ok, I'll wait.
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