In my short time making juice I haven't seen the necessity for wearing a face shield while mixing juice. I draw my nic from a wide mouth hermetically sealed 7oz jar so don't feel that's a threat to tip over/spill and splash up. So, I really am curious how many people actually use a face shield and should I get one?
Why Wear Face Shield?
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I wear a pair of shop glasses when mixing. You never need a face shield until you need a face shield. 100mg/ml nicotine in the eye sounds horrible. How that would happen who knows. But just in case.
I've been mixing juice over 2 years and I wear prescription glasses in my normal life and feel that's plenty of protection for me. I've never seen the need to wear face protection but there's nothing wrong with being cautious and utilize a face shield.
I like to use a Face Shield when I mix for a couple of reasons.
One, I want some level of Protection. Especially when working with High Nicotine Bases.
Two, a Face Shield is Easy to use over Reading Glasses. Or Prescription Lens.
Three, I like to Not Breath into my e-Liquid "Pre-Mixes" or Nicotine Bases any more that I have to. This more of a Quirk. Because I Don't Think much could grow in an e-Liquid. But it just seems like something I should do.
And Lastly, I have a couple of Face Shields that I use when using a Grinder or doing some Woodworking projects. Like using a Router. Not using a piece of Safety Equipment because you don't have one is a Very Poor Excuse. Not Using one when you Do have one is even Worse.
To some, a Face Shield maybe Overkill. And to Some, wearing ANY form of Eye Protection may seem unnecessary. But I'm with Danny. And see Nothing Wrong with being Cautious.
In other parts of my life, I've worked with chemicals that are active at sub-milligram doses. These take some extreme caution... I do not feel it necessary to wear hazmat gear when working with 10% nicotine... may just be me, but I feel that it is overkill.
I wear a face shield, lead apron, and over-the-elbow rubber gloves, and do it in my tighty-whities.
Oh, wait a minute, we're talking about mixing e-liquid? Never mind......
Oh, wait a minute, we're talking about mixing e-liquid? Never mind......
I do not use a face shield, but I have reading glasses that I wear, which help me with the syringe markings. All of the face shields I have used fog up on me, making seeing what I am doing difficult. I have to use them sometimes at work anyway, so I am not fond of them. The additional protection is not a bad idea if it works for you, but if it makes doing the job correctly much more difficult, I don't see much benefit.
I agree. While I don't blame anyone for taking precautions, it seems like many folks here think of 100mg liquid as if it were concentrated sulphuric acid. When I started vaping (again) about a year ago, I used 36mg e-liquid extensively, and that's breathing it in, all day long. 100mg nic is less than 3x that concentration.
For me, the important concerns involving 100mg liquid are to make sure that where it is stored (in the freezer in my case) there is no chance it could contaminate food, making sure that no kids can get access to it, and, when mixing, making sure it's not going to spill, and if it does, that it can be easily contained.
I add the nicotine last, and don't even open it until I'm ready. Easy for me, since I always want to taste-vape the mix without the nic. I have a metal baking pan that I put all my liquids in while mixing so if anything spills, it stays in the pan. (The other stuff, like PG and VG too, only because my wife would yell if I got stuff on the dining-room table). IMHO being organized while mixing liquids is the most important safety precaution (and I am normally a total slob).
There was a post here several months ago warning of the "Dangers of DIY" because his friend, when making liquid, accidentally swapped the proportions of nic to flavor/carrier base, and the result made him ill rather quickly. Yup, it'll do that. The danger, however, came not from the nic, but from the fact that the DIY'er was not organized or focused on what he was doing.
APPROPRIATE safety measures are what's important. If your face shield fogs up, and you accidentally knock the bottle of concentrated nic into your lap (or onto your dog) because you can't see properly, have you come out ahead?
I also have to wear reading glasses for anything close-up, so I don't wear any sort of mask, which just seem to cause my glasses to fog up. Heck, I've gotten so accustomed to 100mg nicotine, I rarely even wear gloves anymore. But that's just me. I wouldn't, and don't, recommend it to anyone.
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As with any discussion about nicotine safety, I am inclined to chime in that, as twgbonehead implied above, the degree of hazard depends on your tolerance and the concentration of what you are working with. So someone that vapes sparingly at 3 mg/ml would be at significantly more risk than someone who vapes a lot of 36 mg/ml, if both are handling 100 mg/ml base.. And of course people that do not use nicotine have no tolerance, so ensuring you do not leave contaminated surfaces or materials that others might be exposed to is not optional, regardless of what strength you are using.
And again as twgbonehead says, the most important safety precaution is being organized and focused. Don't mix when you are in a hurry or if there is a lot of distraction going on, regardless of what PPE you are or are not using.
And again as twgbonehead says, the most important safety precaution is being organized and focused. Don't mix when you are in a hurry or if there is a lot of distraction going on, regardless of what PPE you are or are not using.
First time you get some nicotine base in your eyes, you'll understand the need for eye protection. Doesn't have to be a face shield, but you should use some type of eye protection while mixing.
Eye protection is smart. I've had 100 mg in my eye. It burns like hell ! The best thing to use is safety glasses if you don't have a prescription.
I suppose I should pick up some goggles that go over my reading glasses. They can be found pretty cheaply. When I started smoking, I remember how painful getting smoke in my eyes was if I was doing a task with both hands and smoking with a cig in my mouth. Eventually I got to where it did not bother me and I guess I was able to absorb the nic through my eyeballs as well as my lungs, but that is hardly a good state of affairs. I assume some 100 mg/ml base directly in the eye would make the painful smoke situation seem mild by comparison.
When I burned my eye, I was wearing tiny reading glasses.
Jimi,
What did you do that got the nic concentrate into your eye?
It's absolutely not an idle question, nor meant to dis you in any way; I'd just like to know how to expect and/or prevent that scenario.
I've had a luer-lock tip pop and splash from using too much pressure, and several other things that, although unexpected, weren't actually hazardous. But I suspect that there's some scenarios that I haven't thought of.
I need to ask my husband if he has any goggles that will fit over my glasses. I got some 6mg in my eye once, and that burned like the very devil, I hate to even imagine 100mg. Ouch and a half.
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I'm a no "protection" kind of mixer myself. I try my best to be careful I put the nic in my recipe first. Get the lid back on and then normally make my stupid mistakes and have accidents. Do you want to know how bad a dog will sneeze when a cat knocks over peppermint flavoring down the front of you pajamas? I felt bad for laughing. The main thing is just to use common sense and have fun. Good luck to you.
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