Wire Rope for Wick?

[truushot]

a kick is limited to ten watts.
i do not use kicks in any of my mechs
i use high drain-10 amp panasonic 18650 batts, get my 32 kanthal down to about .8 ohm, gives me about an 18 to 25 watt burn at the coil.....now thats power.....
amazing results, especially when you can wick that juice constantly and without fail with a ss wire rope wick.

Well yes you can force more power with lower ohms, but many many juices just cannot take sub ohms. I run into the problem with much of what I vape.

 

[Dusty_D]

I am running a AGA/t2 on top of an eVic rev 1 VV/VW mod. it is supposed to be good to 15 watts, but i have never needed to push it that hard.
I have been thinking of getting a provari, don't get me wrong, i love my eVic, but i want something more rugged for carrying out and about, probably just use the eVic around the house.

Exactly what I do. Evic for home, Provari's for out and about.

 

[she.ra]

many many juices just cannot take sub ohms. I run into the problem with much of what I vape.

hmm i never considered that, i diy for my juice and do not run into this condition.
my juices are usually 70% vg- 10%pg - 20% flavor(usually pg and alcohol).
http://www.mtbakervapor.com/
i get my flavors from those people, they are very nice for an e-juice company and will go out of there way to help people with PROBLEMS.

 

[mikepetro]

I am running a AGA/t2 on top of an eVic rev 1 VV/VW mod. it is supposed to be good to 15 watts, but i have never needed to push it that hard.
I have been thinking of getting a provari, don't get me wrong, i love my eVic, but i want something more rugged for carrying out and about, probably just use the eVic around the house.

I have an eVic, my first APV, and several Vamos. The reason I have "several" Vamos is because they work better than the eVic. Watt for watt the eVic just doesnt hit as hard as the Vamo. Any RBA that I have performs lessor on the eVic. I usually build coils in the 1.3 ohm to 1.6 ohm range. I can push the eVic all the up, depending on coil ohms I have never been able to get beyond 12w, but it still doesnt hit as hard as the Vamo. I keep the eVic around as a Travel backup because I can charge my 18650s with my phone cable, and it serves as a backup APV, but I usually just use it to charge batteries nowadays.

Just food for thought, you can get about 6 Vamos for the price of a single Provari.... I like the Vamos so much I would have been willing to pay double what they cost.....

Now, all of that being said, I have had 1 Vamo go bad on me, showing low ohms even with no RBA attached. I havent tried to figure out whats wrong with it yet. But for $30, and after 3 months of heavy daily use, I am still happy to toss it in the trash and buy another.

 

[Mylkshake]

do not vape galvanized ss wire. It is toxic.. Read this thread!!

I have read this thread in its entirety. I was simply asking if it is toxic at the temperatures we vape. I know it's toxic to weld with and such but that's significantly hotter than my coil makes my UNGALVENIZED rope. I do not use galvanized. Was just wondering if it's going to put off fumes or if we are just playing it safe, which there is absolutely nothing wrong with.

 

[bigv69er]

I have read this thread in its entirety. I was simply asking if it is toxic at the temperatures we vape. I know it's toxic to weld with and such but that's significantly hotter than my coil makes my UNGALVENIZED rope. I do not use galvanized. Was just wondering if it's going to put off fumes or if we are just playing it safe, which there is absolutely nothing wrong with.

We just dint mess with it to be safer than sorry

 

[Statistic]

(OFF TOPIC) i really need to get some 2 cent fuses.
anyone know of a place (US or CAN) that supplies them, CHEAP. Thanks.
i also need a updated end caps and springs, those brass looking ones, i got ss, for a seigalli #20.

This is as cheap as I've ever seen them, and these are reusable, I have 2 in the mail now: Short Stop by Holocron Labs - $8.25

 

[she.ra]

This is as cheap as I've ever seen them, and these are reusable, I have 2 in the mail now: Short Stop by Holocron Labs - $8.25

thankyou, just surfed over there, pressing the return button on the order......now.

 

[rnln]

For clarification, I am having the aga t2 1.4 ohms with ss cable/mesh , and the RSST 2.2 ohms with mesh/straw only on the mod. Ok, I will jack up the vamo mod to 10w and will report.

Just tried 10w on the mod (Vamo) with 2.2ohms RSST, brun quick. Reduced to 9.5w, burn slow. 9w, no burn, vape well. 7w, vape well, but a little less flavor and vapeor.

Truushot, same experience here. Yes, my mech is a cheap mech, KTS. A mech with a kick, is it equal to the mod?

She.ra, the fuse is selling $5 locally around here. Is it better to use kiack or fuse?

 

[she.ra]

Is it better to use kiack or fuse?

well, the kick has a fuse as well but like i stated, its limited to ten watts.
for my mechs i have been using un protected batts (55mohm, high amperage), but, with people all worried about exploding batts and such it is a good idea to be on the safer side.
the kick is GOOD if you are using a coil that is 1.5ohm or greater.
if you go lesser i would just use the mech alone or with a fuse. (the less hurdles the power has to your coil the better, keep the resistance to a mininum)
dont really need a fuse, you will know you got short pretty fast, thing will get hot. but be on the safe side, 5-8 bucks is cheap peice of mind. (but added resistance, anything added takes away performance)
can you post a link for those 5 dollar fuses? i just ordered those shortstops for 8 bucks each but would also probably buy the 2 cents as well if i can. (i like having choices these days)
thanks.

 

[harmonic]

Now, all of that being said, I have had 1 Vamo go bad on me, showing low ohms even with no RBA attached. I havent tried to figure out whats wrong with it yet. But for $30, and after 3 months of heavy daily use, I am still happy to toss it in the trash and buy another.

Oh say it aint so and its still sitting in a drawer and not on its way to a landfill... Can I have it

 

[rnln]

Thanks she.ra for explaning. I don't have pic of the $5 fuse. It's the local store I saw.

 

[truushot]

This is as cheap as I've ever seen them, and these are reusable, I have 2 in the mail now: Short Stop by Holocron Labs - $8.25

I'm fairly certain that the kick won't allow sub ohms. I can't recall what the cut of is.

I'm really all about the flavor. Price is a concern, a bit less. I'd love to be able to set up my RBAs sub ohm, get the flavor. The problem, as stated, is the juice either has no taste or tastes burnt with the power increases. So yes I can run an RBA on a vamo and have, get great wicking and vapor but the taste just isn't there. I try running lower ohms forcing a shift to a mech and than i get far to little heat and it actually seems to over wick. (steel cable) Like I said, my first preference is the taste. I still find I get great flavor from dripping even okay flavor dripping at .8 though higher is better and I find the flavor from carto's great. I'm gonna try some cotton and Silicia wicking in an RBA. See how that goes...

 

[she.ra]

I'm fairly certain that the kick won't allow sub ohms. I can't recall what the cut of is.

I'm really all about the flavor. Price is a concern, a bit less. I'd love to be able to set up my RBAs sub ohm, get the flavor. The problem, as stated, is the juice either has no taste or tastes burnt with the power increases. So yes I can run an RBA on a vamo and have, get great wicking and vapor but the taste just isn't there. I try running lower ohms forcing a shift to a mech and than i get far to little heat and it actually seems to over wick. (steel cable) Like I said, my first preference is the taste. I still find I get great flavor from dripping even okay flavor dripping at .8 though higher is better and I find the flavor from carto's great. I'm gonna try some cotton and Silicia wicking in an RBA. See how that goes...

you might want to look into a janty mod for your variable needs, they can use sub ohm coils and handle about 20+ amps.
Mid Series

the kick wont work with anything lower than 1.2ohm, starts acting funny at 3.0ohm and stops working if your batt drops below 3.4 volts(sometimes lower).


@mikepetro
you look like a twin of eddie guerrero

i did warn i was going off topic, but, now i am back on.

 

[mikepetro]

Oh say it aint so and its still sitting in a drawer and not on its way to a landfill... Can I have it

Oh no, I did not throw it away. I threw it in a drawer for me to tinker with someday when I am bored. I am betting a wire came loose or something simple and is creating a short. Even if I cant fix it, I will at least get to learn how to get one apart. I would love to give one of these the "Pewter Look" like I did with one of my AGAs.

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Oh, and just to keep some resemblance of being "on topic", both of these have 1/16th SS Rope wicks in them. The AGI has a SS Mesh diaper, and the AGA has an Ekowool diaper. I find I dont need anything larger than 1/16th, regardless of wickhole size, it wicks plenty enough eliquid. My main experiments now is what material to use for a diaper, and whether to make the diaper fill the wickhole or leave the wick a little loose. Loose with a Mesh diaper seems to be my favorite so far, but the jury is still out.

 

[truushot]

Oh no, I did not throw it away. I threw it in a drawer for me to tinker with someday when I am bored. I am betting a wire came loose or something simple and is creating a short. Even if I cant fix it, I will at least get to learn how to get one apart. I would love to give one of these the "Pewter Look" like I did with one of my AGAs.

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Oh, and just to keep some resemblance of being "on topic", both of these have 1/16th SS Rope wicks in them. The AGI has a SS Mesh diaper, and the AGA has an Ekowool diaper. I find I dont need anything larger than 1/16th, regardless of wickhole size, it wicks plenty enough eliquid. My main experiments now is what material to use for a diaper, and whether to make the diaper fill the wickhole or leave the wick a little loose. Loose with a Mesh diaper seems to be my favorite so far, but the jury is still out.

If the chip is functional you can make your own mech or mod box with that chip. I've read about it somewhere.

 

[Viluxia]

I jumped on the bandwagon about a week ago, my first try was a total success, was a 2mm 7x7 rope, with some 400 ontop with .5 ribbon kanthal at 0.9ohms on the poldiac, it was pure heaven, i then made the mistake of getting interested in what other types of rope would work, so bought some 7x19 and 1x19 in various thickness from 1.5 to 3mm, and i havent been able to get what i had previously, either they all hotspot like mad, or work for a few hours then hotspot like mad, driving me insane, have loads of rope and i cant get it working.

Currently trying to get 2.5mm (3/32 i think) 7x7 working in the AC9 and it aint having none of it, it bugs me because i know it works lol, also the AC9 gets pretty darn hot running this type of setup.
AC9 + Poldiac.

 

[rnln]

both of mine get real hot too. Wick good I think. I talked to several people at a local store, their are the same, getting real hot. Don't want to damage customer insulation/seal, they stop doing ss rope unless customer request.

 

[Vault]

First up thanks dspin for the link. The Vape Mesh Company have just recently set-up I believe how-ever they have been in the mesh and wire industry for years so i suppose this is a logical branch out for them after the enquiries and sales of SS mesh for vaping they must have had recently (me included )

Back on topic
My first delivery of 2.5mm 7/19 rope arrived today, I ordered from Ebay from a non vape related site (basically just searched and bought a meter to test). It was listed as 316 marine grade with a polished finish.
I cut small sections using a cut-off wheel on an angle grinder and unraveled one to check for nylon thread inserts.
None were found so I made a solution of hot (but not boiling) caustic soda in a beaker and added the sections of rope along with a few lengths of 316 welding rod.
The rope immediately reacted!!! Bubbles coming up all over and you could see the galvanising fizz away!! The welding rod sections remained perfectly inert with no reaction.
With-in an hour the rope had turned black. I have left this to continue overnight and am interested to see whats left in the morning
I contacted the seller and told them of my test and they remain adamant that they sent 316 marine grade ss. I don`t think so!!! but they did fully refund my money....Hmmmm.
I have three more samples/small sections coming from three more different sellers and will test each one! My hopes are that the samples I`ve bought from the marine type suppliers will be ok.
I`ll update when I`ve tested and in the meantime just a bit of info on the resistance of 316 and 304 to caustic soda......

Article: Selection of stainless steels for handling sodium hydroxide (NaOH)

 

[Statistic]

I had better luck when I started (using the xc as a diaper) out because I was using darker juices and just didn't notice the darkening as much. Actually when I very first used SS rope I was using a SS mesh diaper and I had serious heatsinking, deal breaking heat sinking. Not to mention dry hits from SS mesh make me wanna lay down and cry, they are so far beyond nasty.

Twice in the last few days I have thoroughly cleaned the AGA I'm using this SS rope in, including dry burning the snot out of the top of the wick and the xc-116 diaper at the top, and started fresh. Both times my nearly clear Ginger Ale juice is dark as tar by the time I'm down to 1/4 left in the tank.

I don't know where to go with this now. Wicking is crazy good but burning my juice is not worth it. I suspect I could avoid burning juice if I vaped less at a time and put heat into wick but if I can't vape it like I want then it kind of defeats the purpose :/

Not giving up on SS rope yet as it does wick like nothing I've experienced thus far, and it looks damn cool in the tank.