Wire Rope for Wick?

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rnln

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OMG, I am getting so sick.
I can't take it when everyone can do it and I can't. And I can't wait for shipping to come anymore. This whole vaping thing makes me wait so long, on so many things. So today, I got a mechanic mod (KTS), a Aga T2, and an RSST. With the Aga T2 and the RSST, I suddenly know how to set up wicks. I tried ss mesh, then ss cable, and cable with mesh on top. They all work fine. I also learned how to suck.
With real cig, and clearomizers, I suck it in my mouth. When my mouth full, I stop sucking then inhale it, just like smoking real cig. With the genesis type, I have to suck it directly into my throat because the air flow is so wide open, then lung, and full stomach until my stomach got as big as I have ever experience, and I can't suck anymore, then I blow it out. Oh mine, the room was just like an old train just came through :lol:.
I sat here stuff all of my gears in front of me and smoke one after another one by one. When realized that I just finish 2 tanks of each genesis type tanks (that is 4 tanks of juice), 1 MT2, and 1 stardust. Now I feel so sick in my stomach and want to throw up. My mouth and throat are so itchy.

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Now I can produce a lot of vape/smoke, but no smell and taste. If it matter, the Aga T2, I set it up at 1.4 ohms. The RSST is at 2.5 ohms. My little MT3 and stardust suddenly become so restricted, but a lot of taste and smell. The genesis type has no taste/smell at all. The worst is the ss cable set up. What wrong did I do?

The KTS works ok, but if I keep holding the button for a real long vape, the button get very hot, to the point I can't hold it anymore. Nowhere, else get hot. Is this normal or something is wrong?
 
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I`v just read this thread form start to finish... and needless to say I`ve got Ekowool and 316 SS rope in 7/7 and 7/19 in both 2.5 and 3mm (hard to find 3/32 or 1/8 here in the UK believe it or not!) on order to try in the AGA-T2 and the RSST:)

I did notice quite early in the thread some guys were concerned about Galvanised coatings on the SS rope and rightly so! the fumes given off can be carcenogenic and are nasty ( I know via welding galvanised steel and you need a respirator or just don`t bother!)
There may be a get around or even a test. Galvanised steel of any kind absolutely hates caustic soda! It will bubble and fizz and the caustic strips the galvanisation off in no time!
I often use (carefully) a hot solution of caustic to strip the plating off small parts if they have to be welded.

So a quick test would be to add some caustic soda crystals to some hot water and test a small section of the suspect SS rope in it, if it reacts it`s coated! If you leave it overnight it will strip any of the plating and leave the SS untouched.If you want to strip some of your plated SS for vaping use I recommend a thorough washing after, in fact several washes to make sure all traces of soda are removed.

Now the disclaimers!!! :
Always were gloves and goggles!
Never add boiling water to the crystals! It will react violently!
Do not breathe the fumes!
Do this at your own risk.

Caustic soda crystals can be found at most hardware stores and are commonly used for clearing drains, removing limescale etc :)



Here you go, 2 MM rope, eko wool, flat wire, etc - one stop shopping in the UK


http://www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/products/Wire-Cable-Rope.html
 

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OMG, I am getting so sick.
I can't take it when everyone can do it and I can't. And I can't wait for shipping to come anymore. This whole Vaping thing makes me wait so long, on so many things. So today, I got a mechanic mod (KTS), a Aga T2, and an RSST. With the Aga T2 and the RSST, I suddenly know how to set up wicks. I tried ss mesh, then ss cable, and cable with mesh on top. They all work fine. I also learned how to suck.
With real cig, and clearomizers, I suck it in my mouth. When my mouth full, I stop sucking then inhale it, just like smoking real cig. With the genesis type, I have to suck it directly into my throat because the air flow is so wide open, then lung, and full stomach until my stomach got as big as I have ever experience, and I can't suck anymore, then I blow it out. Oh mine, the room was just like an old train just came through :lol:.
I sat here stuff all of my gears in front of me and smoke one after another one by one. When realized that I just finish 2 tanks of each genesis type tanks (that is 4 tanks of juice), 1 MT2, and 1 stardust. Now I feel so sick in my stomach and want to throw up. My mouth and throat are so itchy.

Questions,
Now I can produce a lot of vape/smoke, but no smell and taste. If it matter, the Aga T2, I set it up at 1.4 ohms. The RSST is at 2.5 ohms. My little MT3 and stardust suddenly become so restricted, but a lot of taste and smell. The genesis type has no taste/smell at all. The worst is the ss cable set up. What wrong did I do?

The KTS works ok, but if I keep holding the button for a real long vape, the button get very hot, to the point I can't hold it anymore. Nowhere, else get hot. Is this normal or something is wrong?

If your button is getting hot, I would guess that points to a potential short somewhere. It could also account for your lack of flavour. But then, it could also be the juice you're using and it not being able to handle the higher heat.

Did you setup your coils dry or wet? Did you confirm that you have no hot spots on your coils before adding juice into the configuration?
 

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I can't tell if the body is short. I set up the coil/wick dry, then add fluid, then draw fluid in the tank. Fire the button and tilt it for couple seconds, several times. I did not see any hot spot at all.
I tried the 2.2ohms (sometimes it's 2.5ohms) on the mech mod, the button won't get hot for 1 long pull. I kept the button depressed for 3 long pulls, then it get a little warm. 2.2ohms on the mech mod, vaping production is not much.
 
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I can't tell if the body is short. I set up the coil/wick dry, then add fluid, then draw fluid in the tank. Fire the button and tilt it for couple seconds, several times. I did not see any hot spot at all.
I tried the 2.2ohms (sometimes it's 2.5ohms) on the mech mod, the button won't get hot for 1 long pull. I kept the button depressed for 3 long pulls, then it get a little warm. 2.2ohms on the mech mod, vaping production is not much.

Give it a few more wraps. 2.2 is a bit high. These things are really wet. Shoot for 1.5. Let us know.
 

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At work we have several large spools of SS wire rope. I cut a few different sizes to play around with... They are all galvanized.

My understanding is that we should NOT be using the galvanized ropes. The reason evades me at this time, but I would hazard a guess and say it has to do with leeching and corrosion of the wire.
 

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I can't tell if the body is short. I set up the coil/wick dry, then add fluid, then draw fluid in the tank. Fire the button and tilt it for couple seconds, several times. I did not see any hot spot at all.
I tried the 2.2ohms (sometimes it's 2.5ohms) on the mech mod, the button won't get hot for 1 long pull. I kept the button depressed for 3 long pulls, then it get a little warm. 2.2ohms on the mech mod, vaping production is not much.

2.2 ohms on the mech mod is not going to give you good performance. You need a 1.5 or less ohm coil to see an increase in performance on the Mech. Put the 2.2 ohm on a VV/VW device and set to 4.5V or 10W, and it will sing for you. :)
 

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okay, so i got my SS rope last night and did some testing. As far as i can tell, 302, 304, and 316 appear to wick equally, personally i would choose 316 over the others, as it has the best corrosion resistance, but it is also more expensive.

this stuff wicks awesome !! I had been running 100% cotton wicks, and it would take at least an hour for the cotton to soak up enough juice to be vapable, and you had to give it a rest in between to recover, i put a cotton diaper on the rope, wrapped my coil on directly on it, stuck the wick in my AGA t2 with juice still in the tank, and before i could get the coil completely connected, the cotton diaper was soaked in juice already.

I did notice however that i had to up my wattage. with the 100% cotton wick, i had been running around 7.5 - 8 watts, with the SS rope cotton, i am runing around 9 - 9.5. not sure if this is because i definitely have a larger juice volume to vaporize, or because the rope is sinking some heat away, but never the less, it vapes a 100 times better than the plain cotton ever did.
 

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Probably a stupid question, but is using galvanized really that big of a concern for us or are we just playing it extra safe? It is my understanding that the reason we avoid it is the fumes that can come off it, but at the temperatures we vape at is that even a possibility?

I don't know about you but my top cap gets plenty hot with the cable rope and 1.0 bakero wire coil so i could only imagine the temp of the rope.

Checking now yes burning till dry my wick will get red hot in some places so yes don't use galv please
 

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    probably a stupid question, but is using galvanized really that big of a concern for us or are we just playing it extra safe? It is my understanding that the reason we avoid it is the fumes that can come off it, but at the temperatures we vape at is that even a possibility?

    do not vape galvanized ss wire. It is toxic.. Read this thread!!
     

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    okay, so i got my SS rope last night and did some testing. As far as i can tell, 302, 304, and 316 appear to wick equally, personally i would choose 316 over the others, as it has the best corrosion resistance, but it is also more expensive.

    this stuff wicks awesome !! I had been running 100% cotton wicks, and it would take at least an hour for the cotton to soak up enough juice to be vapable, and you had to give it a rest in between to recover, i put a cotton diaper on the rope, wrapped my coil on directly on it, stuck the wick in my AGA t2 with juice still in the tank, and before i could get the coil completely connected, the cotton diaper was soaked in juice already.

    I did notice however that i had to up my wattage. with the 100% cotton wick, i had been running around 7.5 - 8 watts, with the SS rope cotton, i am runing around 9 - 9.5. not sure if this is because i definitely have a larger juice volume to vaporize, or because the rope is sinking some heat away, but never the less, it vapes a 100 times better than the plain cotton ever did.

    Do you use a kicked mech? I run into this problem with my mechs. They simply do not supply enough power. Toss a rba onto a VV/VW and it works far better.

    Sort of defeats the purpose though. Maybe my mech's are crappy ones. They are the cheaper ones.
     

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    Do you use a kicked mech? I run into this problem with my mechs. They simply do not supply enough power. Toss a rba onto a VV/VW and it works far better.

    Sort of defeats the purpose though. Maybe my mech's are crappy ones. They are the cheaper ones.

    I am running a AGA/t2 on top of an eVic rev 1 VV/VW mod. it is supposed to be good to 15 watts, but i have never needed to push it that hard.
    I have been thinking of getting a provari, don't get me wrong, i love my eVic, but i want something more rugged for carrying out and about, probably just use the eVic around the house.
     
    Do you use a kicked mech? I run into this problem with my mechs. They simply do not supply enough power. Toss a rba onto a VV/VW and it works far better.

    Sort of defeats the purpose though. Maybe my mech's are crappy ones. They are the cheaper ones.

    a kick is limited to ten watts.
    i do not use kicks in any of my mechs
    i use high drain-10 amp panasonic 18650 batts, get my 32 kanthal down to about .8 ohm, gives me about an 18 to 25 watt burn at the coil.....now thats power.....
    amazing results, especially when you can wick that juice constantly and without fail with a ss wire rope wick.

    (OFF TOPIC) i really need to get some 2 cent fuses.
    anyone know of a place (US or CAN) that supplies them, CHEAP. Thanks.
    i also need a updated end caps and springs, those brass looking ones, i got ss, for a seigalli #20.
     
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