Wiring A 510 Battery Connector

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horton

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Some projects you just can't help but get boxed in and not have any alternatives to soldering with the pin in place. You do what you have to do. I find it very cramped quarters for soldering to the center pin when left in place. I'd be willing to venture a guess and say that you are safe with 95% of the connectors in terms of not damaging the spacer. But you just don't know -- there is always that small chance of damaging one. At least they are cheap enough so if you do trash one by accident, it won't break the bank. May slow you down, but not something that will ruin the project.
I've never found them to be a great hassle to dismantle and reassemble. I won't deny that it is tedious to put the spacers back in, after that the center pin is a snap as long as there is no extraneous solder to damage the spacer when you push the pin back in. I like knowing for sure that I have not done any damage, especially damage I can not see. It's pretty darn tight in those connectors. That's where the Fluke with tone is so nice. You can check (listen) for dead shorts so easily. I do wish we could buy extra spacers as a "just in case" kind of thing. I also wish we could buy more American made parts. It really bugs me knowing we are so dependent on the Pacific Rim countries for a great majority of our parts. I love seeing "Made in the USA" on parts I buy, but with electronic components it is very rare. We come up with the concepts and designs, and then they build them and have us over a barrel. The bottom line rules in every aspect of our lives.
As I mentioned in a prior post, I find it very easy to use the Xacto knife end to both remove and replace both the spacer and pin. It's just the right size. And actually, a set of blunt nosed tweezers is just the ticket for removing the spacers. Interesting how we find unintended uses for some of our tools....lol.
 

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here you go.
GM had Disney make the videos based off the 1940s pamphlets IIRC
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Edit: it seems the GM version wasn't nearly as funny and cartoon disastery as the military training films I remember...
 
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OMG..... those clips are hilarious..... thanks so much for finding and posting them. Think I have a little Primitive Pete in me....lmao. Actually, now that I think about it, my wife should watch the clips too.... she always amazes me with how she can use say a butter knife for so many different things.... screwdriver, prybar, light hammer, etc. I knew it was true love when I met her..... how many women come with their own set of hand and power tools? And high quality to boot..... she didn't waste her money on cheap tools. I can always count on her when I need a third or fourth hand on a project. Plus, she knows what to hand me when I ask for a crescent wrench -- I don't get handed a pair of pliers instead...lol.
Yes, Oldsoldier, IVC....... thank you..... at least I know some neurons are still firing up there.... nice to see you here as well. You sure got the ladies going on IVC..... thought that was very funny.
Thanks again for the clips. I'm gonna save them --- have a few people in mind I'd like to send them to. Sure they would get a kick out of them. All retired military.
 

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Wow. Funny. LOL. Nobody is suggesting using the wrong tools BTW...(OK the x-acto handle as a "pusher" but that's such a simple "tool", a proper diameter rod, that it doesn't really count.) I suppose if we were an atty connector shop, we'd have a dedicated push tool, but the x-acto knife works great I'm sure and not really the wrong tool, since it does have a rod as a handle. Now, if you start hammering with it, screwing in screws with the blade, prying things..........change your name to Primitive Pete.

So...interesting... nobody actually melted one yet... just a lot of conjecture on what "could" happen. Pacific rim, and all that. Hmmmmmm ??????????? lol

BTW... if you do solder it in-place, please check the quality of the isolator when done and ensure you don't get shorts...

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AttyPops, TBH I've never tried to solder the post with it still installed. It just seems to me it is easier to solder while disassembled. It's really not hard to do I just use a clicky type ballpoint pen to pop it out , same thing putting it back in.

It's easier to clamp the thing in a vise, solder the center, solder the ground, and you're done. 2 steps, one vise, no fuss. Now, whether or not I should do that is the debate. And it's not a matter of tools, nor even how hard it is to put back together, but rather technique. And BTW, people can, and do, mess up putting it back together and end up with shorts too. With some connectors, that little doughnut doesn't want to align it's grooves back into the connector well, IMO. Also, some connectors may differ, so YMMV.

OTOH I have, on at least one occasion, overdone it and bridged the gap between the center post and the shell with solder. I think it happened soldering the ground to the inside shell. Got another chance to practice my swear-mumbling routine. Must be getting less precise in my old age..... fortunately it doesn't happen often.
 
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i'm glad i came across this post! i have only made a couple of box mods and have soldered the wire to the connector while it's all in one piece. i didn't even know there was that little piece of plastic or whatever it is. i will definitely try taking it apart next time-which is coming real soon, i'm starting a new mod.

i also have to get one of those '3rd hands'. they look very handy.
 

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I also don't remove the center pin either. the one that I did that with broke the insulator and caused a really funky short that would only show up with the atty screwed in. I did find a cheap fix and have posted it on the forum before but perhaps one more time will help someone else. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...73-so-i-made-mistake-twice-2.html#post2664410


The insulator is the perfect size in every way (after you cut it).
 
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Has anyone ever really melted an isolator "doughnut" while soldering an atty center connection in place? Or is this just an old wives' tale we're passing around?

+1 on the fill with glue/epoxy. Also, sometimes I slide heat-shrink tube down the center wire over the center connector instead of filling it. (to ensure it stays isolated and can't short.)
Well I just took an insulator and shoved onto the tip of a hot 40W iron. Gave it 20 seconds before I knocked it off. Seems fine.

For spares just rip them outta spent cartos.
 
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