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I went through a major removal umm bout two years back, wasn't vaping then. Couldn't smoke right away just wasn't doable. Went to bed to sleep it off, got up ten hours later and gave smoking a try, err no way. About another 7 hours later and a few more hours of sleep and managed to smoke one, still hurt but not as bad. Two days later well back to smoking at a reduced rate but each one got easier, healed up fine in the end but I was still smoking...
Sometimes you have no choice but to let your body tell you what you can or cannot do.
 

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Getting two wisdom tooth removed. They mentioned they need to be removed due to their decaying status. If kept, it will cause pain pushing other teeth. Shrug... I get the feeling I wont be able to vape at all after the surgery. Most of my stuff or low or medium nic. Should I put them on the side until I heal up? :unsure:

It's the sucking that causes problems. Don't smoke. Don't vape. Don't use a straw. Don't do anything that has a sucking motion. Don't do anything that could possibly dislodge the blood clot that forms. ( ok that covers the hygiene side of me)
That said, if you draw very lightly and cover your teeth with your tongue keep it all to the front of your mouth, you should be ok. Your trying not to dislodge the blood clot that forms it can be VERY painful if you do.
 

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Read a couple of posts where people were putting the juice on their skin when they couldn't vape.

This is dangerous and NOT recommended EVER. If you spill some, you wash your hands as soon as possible, nicotine is absorbed through the skin at different rates than vaping and you can OD. Nicotine can kill you in this manner.
 

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I'm going to need surgery to get my wisdom teeth out of my jaw, eventually. Probably get my TMJ fixed at the same time.

I intend to be to doped on painkillers to notice a craving for vape.

Narcotics are worse than alcohol for me. Whenever I've been on pain killers, I've smoked even more than my normal 2-3 packs a day.
 

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I'd probably vape, but can't tell others to be as foolish as me lol. Anyway, if you do - wash everytime after you vape your mouth with Listerine or such. In dry socket problem, most of that comes from smoke ( tar and 4000 other crap you can think of ). If you really want to be careful, use nicotine patches for a while.
 

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Nicotine keeps wounds from healing. When I got my wisdom teeth removed I smoked all day and afterwards I vomited blood all over. Try not to vape for 8 hours after, until it stops bleeding. Sucking has nothing to do with the actual clotting process.
Yep. Nicotine slows down all sorts of healing.
Hey, I had my wisdom teeth taken out about 100 years ago & I survived. You probably will also.
 

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putting a strong negative pressure on the socket will not do it any good. What you can do is put your lips lightly on the drip tip and suck air around it from the sides at the same time.. It's a different way of vaping that doesn't put a negative pressure in your mouth. It actually gives a stronger throat hit and people who vape that way usually end up putting their voltage settings down low. Some have told me they feel it gives a more "cigarette" like experience to their vape.. I don't see that myself though. I don't like vaping that way because it bothers my throat but if I just had teeth pulled I'd use that method vs suffering without.
 

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Getting two wisdom tooth removed. They mentioned they need to be removed due to their decaying status. If kept, it will cause pain pushing other teeth. Shrug... I get the feeling I wont be able to vape at all after the surgery. Most of my stuff or low or medium nic. Should I put them on the side until I heal up? :unsure:

Yes. You should not be vaping, using straws, or anything else that requires a sucking motion.

It's stops the clotting sometimes, and that's how you get dry sockets which are very painful.

It's not the ejuice but the sucking on something that is bad.
 

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I said low to now nicotine because i think i've heard nicotine impedes healing.

I had scheduled some surgery and 3 surgeons refused to operate on me if there was nicotine in my body...yes, it does negatively impact SKIN / WOUND healing, less oxygen to the tissues. this was when I was an actual smoker.......and they would not let me use a patch either, so it is definitely nicotine that is the culprit.
 

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Narcotics are worse than alcohol for me. Whenever I've been on pain killers, I've smoked even more than my normal 2-3 packs a day.

Yeah same here, I can't even tell if I'm ony Hydrocodone, even at like 20-30mg dose, but with Oxycodone even small amounts will make me want to smoke/vape like a fiend. I think it's that syngery similar to alcohol where smoking/vaping feels so much better.

I had scheduled some surgery and 3 surgeons refused to operate on me if there was nicotine in my body...yes, it does negatively impact SKIN / WOUND healing, less oxygen to the tissues. this was when I was an actual smoker.......and they would not let me use a patch either, so it is definitely nicotine that is the culprit.


Is this a new thing for surgeons, do you have any serious medical issues other than whatever sugery you were getting surgery for?

II ask because I have never heard of such a thing (the refusal to operate)

I was being an angry idiot and punched a concrete wall, snapped two of the bones in my hand (forget what they are called, the long ones in your hand above your pinky and ring finger) They snapped right in the middle, each one was sort of like a v-shape as if you snapped a toothpick. I had sugery where I was put under, has two incisions about 3" long cut into my hand, and two titanium plates installed. Surgeon never even asked/mentioned anything about smoking or nicotine. I'm a fairly young, healthy person, so my healing times aren't really impaired or anything, and it wasn't super major sugery but...

My grandmother, when about 70-something had her hip replaced, this was just a few years ago so not that long ago, she was a lifelong smoker and the surgeon didn't say anything about her smoking/nicotine either.

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Sounds to me like ...... surgeons (...... surgeon? who would have thought...) using their personal feelings and beliefs to dictate what their patients are doing. I would have told them to eff-off and found another doc.

Anyway, back to the tooth thing:

I've only had one tooth pulled, it was my farthest back molar on my bottom jaw, evidently the exact area where dry sockets are the MOST common. Evidently the bottom jaw is worse, and the back molars are worse, so I was very paranoid about a dry socket.

But I smoked a cig on the way from the dentist to get my painkillers filled, then from the pharmacy back to my house. Then another about an hour later. You get the idea. No dry socket for me, so it's just a roll of the dice. I was constantly fiddling with the hole with my tongue too, I was actually pretty surprised I didn't have any issues. Maybe I have some horribly unhealty super gooey thick blood or something. Hope not.

It seems like putting your tongue over the socket would help. Or covering it with gauze and keeping your jaw shut, putting slight pressure on the gauze.
 
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Nicotine is a factor in ......ing healing. You'll still heal. There is all kinds of good advice through here. I still say the BEST advice is that given by your surgeon, who I virtually assure you will be to lay off for two to three days. That's the critical clotting/begin healing period. Once you're over that its all down hill. Give yourself the best chance you can, if you can't lay off for a couple of days go as gentle an easy as you possibly can. I wouldn't wish what I went through on my worst enemy. ... Wait yes , yes I would; but not on you:) or anyone else :)

I fought a dry socket for a little more than 6 weeks and was bordering on suicidal, that may sound extreme but if you've been there ill bet you can relate. Nerve pain of that variety is a thing all to itself, with the fascinating side effect of being virtually unaffected by painkillers:(

I can honestly say if I hadn't heard about and found the Red Cross toothache kit at the drugstore I don't know how that little chapter would have ended. I sincerely wish you the very best, I'm not trying to scare you, like I said before the odds are totally in your favor but you can make them even better if you can get through those first couple of days and take your Dr.'s advice!


Btw I have no idea how old you are, but the younger you are the easier this will be also. I am an idiot, and I waited until I was 40+ and no longer had a choice to get mine out! Increased age equals more complications, longer healing times, more discomfort etc.
 
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There is however a big difference between peripheral vasculature and the mouth. The Head recieves a very rich steady source of blood supply from the Carotid Arteries and I seriously doubt that a bit of nicotine (from vaping) is going to effect healing in this area. I've been a nurse for 25 years. I've worked in the operating room doing ear nose and throat surgeries for the last 15 years. My advice to you is avoid them for a day or 2 if it is an issue that you're worried about. If you can't then use the non negative mouth pressure technique i mentioned above. As far as healing goes, the mouth is NOT peripheral so don't sweat the nicotine.
 
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