word to the wise on li-ions

[Casebomber]

after watching the innokin lea issues vid (sure if may sound silly if it only happens when plugged in) it reminded me how scary it was to realize how many people may be using li ion rechargeables, (omg multi cell setups!!!) coming from candlepowerforums and having some knowledge of the dangers, I could only recommend that people are purchasing safe devices, CHECKING VOLTAGES BEFORE AND AFTER CHARGER AND ALWAYS MATCHING VOLTAGE FOR MULTI CELL SETUPS. Seriously, a lot of these devices come with li ion charges, and they're generally less than ideal. There are only a couple li ion chargers in the world that use the proper charging algorithm, that said, i recommend the PILA IBC. Quality cells such as aw are generally a good idea as well and I wouldnt think you would want to use unprotected cells in a multi cell. Never let your voltage go below 3.2 straight from the cell, read on a voltmeter and when you're charging, remove cells immediately after they're done as voltage must never go above 4.2 straight from the cell. Be safe and take care!

just remember, LI IONS VENT WITH FIRE possible explosion, small albeit dangerous

Now a quick question...

Can anyone tell me why we would pay $200 for a device that would cost $30-80 (considering all the parts, manufacturing, potentiometer, switch etc..) if it were a flashlight? Is it just that it's a new idea being milked?

Started this kick a couple weeks ago and soon will want to get into something a little different than my v2 and greensmartliving, though for portability and size concerns these are irreplaceable.

 

[Hoosier]

Yep, these batteries pack a bunch of power into a small package and if that power is released suddenly, it becomes dangerous.

The last time I spent $200 on a unit it came with a built-in microprocessor to control voltage, read atomizer resistance, monitor battery condition, and other functions through an LED digital display. Never seen a flashlight with those functions or why it would need those functions.

Really depends on what you're buying and from whom.

Welcome to ECF!

 

[Casebomber]

The last time I spent $200 on a unit it came with a built-in microprocessor to control voltage, read atomizer resistance, monitor battery condition, and other functions through an LED digital display. Never seen a flashlight with those functions or why it would need those functions.

thanks buddy! my question, you see was a bit assumptive and vague, for sure. that sounds like an all on one device! haha, toss the old multimeter, j/k. I'm excited to research and find the best device/carto for me!!

 

[Hoosier]

You came to the right place.

The library should have some articles that will keep your interest.

There is the review sub-forums to read what others think of their stuff.

A Mods section if you are looking to make your own.

And that is just skimming the surface.

 

[dormouse]

It's not necessary to spend $200

Riva 510 kits from Liberty-Flights (3.7v) - two complete 650mah Rivas - under $30 (first press their 20% off upper left front page, then shop)
3.7v Plastic box mod - $15-20 (add protected 14500 and charger)
Plastic box variable voltage w/ evercool circuit - $55-80 (add batteries and charger)
Epower - metal tube model for 14650 or a larger size - $45.00
Typical fancy color slim ecig kits - $40-60 w/ 2 batteries ($35-45 in plain manufacturer model)

 

[mikescott]

Yep, these batteries pack a bunch of power into a small package and if that power is released suddenly, it becomes dangerous.

The last time I spent $200 on a unit it came with a built-in microprocessor to control voltage, read atomizer resistance, monitor battery condition, and other functions through an LED digital display. Never seen a flashlight with those functions or why it would need those functions.

Really depends on what you're buying and from whom.

Welcome to ECF!

Hi, are you talking about the Provari?

 

[Hoosier]

Hi, are you talking about the Provari?

Yep, that is the last mod I purchased.

 

[mlinky]

There is a pretty comprehensive guide here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

 

[Casebomber]

There is a pretty comprehensive guide here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

shame on a noob like me!

 

[Eddie.Willers]

Welcome to ECF Casebomber!

If you paid US$200 for your first e-cig device, and assuming it was a Chinese, mass-market, low battery capacity 'pen-style' device then don't feel too bad...most of us started by being the 'victim' of those who seek to milk the wallets of the early adopters.

Fortunately, you foind the great resource (and folk) that make this forum what it is.

Now, $200 for a hand-built mod - like a Darwin, Provari or Golden Greek...that's a whole other issue!

 

[mlinky]

shame on a noob like me!

Nah, it's a good thing to have it brought up so we can bring attention to it. I have enjoyed learning about batteries, and spent some time reading CPF, which is a great resource. Always nice to have a cross-over on ECF.