Wotofo Sapor RTA... Thoughts and reviews

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Oh ok that must be it,FYI if dhl is an option for you it'll will be in your mail box in 3 days guaranteed,I love ordering from them I've NEVER had an issue and I've ordered from them at least 20 times and never a hick up,and live chat works,I've chatted with them many times;-)

Thanks, that's all good to know, especially when dealing with a new overseas vendor. DHL can be quite fast, but it's very expensive, at least to the US, so I would only go that route on an expensive item I wanted right away. For all the little supplies like drip tip or coils, I just accept it will show up in 2 to 3 weeks. My record from FT was 8 days from order to mailbox. Must have been some corresponding rare astronomical event as that's never recurred.:)
 
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Thanks, that's all good to know, especially when dealing with a new overseas vendor. DHL can be quite fast, but it's very expensive, at least to the US, so I would only go that route on an expensive item I wanted right away. For all the little supplies like drip tip or coils, I just accept it will show up in 2 to 3 weeks. My record from FT was 8 days from order to mailbox. Must have been some corresponding rare astronomical event as that's never recurred.:)
Ya I hear you that's what I tried explaining to two bears earlier,it can take forever,I only use dhl for tanks and mods because I get impatient lol.
 
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Hi jj,are you able to track your shipment yet?
Nope... They haven't sent me a tracking email yet either. When I go onto the site and view my order it says shipped and has a tracking number and site but there are no hyperlinks. When I copy and paste the number I get an invalid result.

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Nope... They haven't sent me a tracking email yet either. When I go onto the site and view my order it says shipped and has a tracking number and site but there are no hyperlinks. When I copy and paste the number I get an invalid result.

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Jj not sure what country you are in but check what is the local time of operation in Beijing and go on everzons site,at the bottom of the screen you will see a chat tab,start a chat with them and have your order handy,it takes a few minutes for them to check on your order but they do chat with you,I've done many times to ask questions about a product,ect am in France and I think they are 6 hrs ahead for me so it's like 9 pm for them now so they will not answer,I've also email them and have always gotten responses from them,but I would do the chat thing it's easier and quicker;-)
 

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So I ordered a Serpent Mini and it says that is holds 3ml, bur the Sapor looks taller in pictures and is supposed to hold 2ml. I've tried to look for dimensions, but every place I've looked, the heights are not listed the same.
Is the Serpent the single coil one? The Sapor has a velocity style deck so it may have a bigger chamber. If that doesn't account for the height then it's the top airflow assembly. The Serpent Mini has that really lo-pro Moonshot type airflow, right?

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About the decks being different, single vs double.
I have been vaping for about three years. I'm just new to RBAs. This is my first one. I was using carto tanks for about two years and just recently ventured into DL. I wasn't so sure about it until I bought this Atlantis EVO.
I have a serpent mini and absolutely hated everything about it,I dry hit,leaked,it always shorted out cause you had to cut the leads sooo short or else it touched the chamber walls,plus it only held 2 ml of juice so I had to constantly fill it up and since they're a no juice flow control,well it leaked,I shouldn't be telling you all of this since you ordered one and am sure you're exited to get it lol,the Sapor rta is a way better tank in my opinion;-)
 

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@franck You seem to be one of the few that feel that way ;), but at 16 bucks, I'm not gonna lose sleep over it one way or the other. I do have a question, doesn't the Sapor have the same juice capacity as the Serpent Mini? The website says 3ml for the Mini and 2ml for the Sapor, but from what I've read, the Mini is more like 2ml. One of the reason I picked the Mini over the Sapor was because I thought it held more juice. I was hoping for 3ml.
 

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@franck You seem to be one of the few that feel that way ;), but at 16 bucks, I'm not gonna lose sleep over it one way or the other. I do have a question, doesn't the Sapor have the same juice capacity as the Serpent Mini? The website says 3ml for the Mini and 2ml for the Sapor, but from what I've read, the Mini is more like 2ml. One of the reason I picked the Mini over the Sapor was because I thought it held more juice. I was hoping for 3ml.
Well Ed I feel that way because I have both tanks and I know how much of a pain the serpent mini was to coil and wick,and no juice flow control,the Sapor 22 mm holds 2 ml but I got 2 25 mm Sapors rtas that now hold 3.5 ml.
 
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@franck You seem to be one of the few that feel that way ;), but at 16 bucks, I'm not gonna lose sleep over it one way or the other. I do have a question, doesn't the Sapor have the same juice capacity as the Serpent Mini? The website says 3ml for the Mini and 2ml for the Sapor, but from what I've read, the Mini is more like 2ml. One of the reason I picked the Mini over the Sapor was because I thought it held more juice. I was hoping for 3ml.
I have to agree with Franck and tell you that as far as the Sapor goes, every major reviewer that's reviewed it so far has said the exact same thing-that it's the best flavor they've EVER had in an RTA. Now I concur with that statement even though I've only tried maybe 6-7 rtas, but these reviewers have used somewhere in the 30s-50s of tanks.

And though I never used a Serpent Mini I know the design. It's nothing new. Bottom airflow tanks, especially the lo-pro ones, leak...period. It's just a matter of when. Wicking is a learning process with each of them. And those mini lo-pro ones are harder to build on because the base is so flat and small. Not good for beginners.

The Sapor on the other hand may very well be leak-proof. And because there are no bottom airflow holes, the wicking is extremely forgiving on it. Combine that with what's already touted as the best flavor RTA to date and I can't recommended any other RTA out there especially for someone new to rebuildables...

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I have to agree with Franck and tell you that as far as the Sapor goes, every major reviewer that's reviewed it so far has said the exact same thing-that it's the best flavor they've EVER had in an RTA. Now I concur with that statement even though I've only tried maybe 6-7 rtas, but these reviewers have used somewhere in the 30s-50s of tanks.

And though I never used a Serpent Mini I know the design. It's nothing new. Bottom airflow tanks, especially the lo-pro ones, leak...period. It's just a matter of when. Wicking is a learning process with each of them. And those mini lo-pro ones are harder to build on because the base is so flat and small. Not good for beginners.

The Sapor on the other hand may very well be leak-proof. And because there are no bottom airflow holes, the wicking is extremely forgiving on it. Combine that with what's already touted as the best flavor RTA to date and I can't recommended any other RTA out there especially for someone new to rebuildables...

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Hey jj I gotta tell ya bud I was pretty frustrated today though,went to change out my wicks on my Sapor and the dam thing flooded on me 3 times,not sure if you've experienced that yet but that's the equivalent to leaking for the Sapor,basically once you've filled it up and put on your top cap you'll notice that you're juice level is dropping,that means it's flooded and when you take a drag you end up with a mouth full of juice and zero vapor,witch sucks cause you have to drain the tank but then juice comes out the air holes,therefor you have to clean out the whole tank and start from scratch,my wicking was perfect and all o- rings in place,it was driving me nuts,the only thing I could think of is that I was filling it too fast,then after my third clean up and wicking job I filled it nice and slow and no problems since,weird right?just thought I'd pass that on if you ever incounter such an issue;-)
 

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Hey jj I gotta tell ya bud I was pretty frustrated today though,went to change out my wicks on my Sapor and the dam thing flooded on me 3 times,not sure if you've experienced that yet but that's the equivalent to leaking for the Sapor,basically once you've filled it up and put on your top cap you'll notice that you're juice level is dropping,that means it's flooded and when you take a drag you end up with a mouth full of juice and zero vapor,witch sucks cause you have to drain the tank but then juice comes out the air holes,therefor you have to clean out the whole tank and start from scratch,my wicking was perfect and all o- rings in place,it was driving me nuts,the only thing I could think of is that I was filling it too fast,then after my third clean up and wicking job I filled it nice and slow and no problems since,weird right?just thought I'd pass that on if you ever incounter such an issue;-)
Before I go on with this post I want to say that YMMV and that in no way do I mean offense in anything I'm about to say.

It's all physics. Tanks work because of pressure. If your tank's pressure is offset by a slipped off o-ring, not closing the airflow and juice fill ports,
inadequate wicking (most likely the case in your scenario), etc., then your tank will leak or flood in the case of the Sapor. The only reason juice actually came up your airflow is because you took some pulls on it after it was already flooded. With gravity against the juice there is literally no way to get the juice in the airflow section unless it's already flooded because of an improper filling/wicking and you continue to use it. Even if the tank were flooded and you turned it upside down you'd have to leave it upside down for a while before juice would come seeping out.

If you get the wicking right, which I have to say after experience with a handful of rbas over the past few years has proven the most forgiving and easiest to do in the Sapor versus any bottom airflow tank, and you fill it right and maintain the vacuum, the tank is leak-proof.

So no, I haven't encountered that issue. I experienced lots of flooding with the Joyetech Cubis POS because even though that was top airflow the initial coils (never tried the notch coils) were so badly designed that they wicked too much and didn't have well designed airflow to draw the vapor efficiently and maintain a correct vacuum.

I have 2 Limitless RDTAs. I wick them completely differently than the Sapor RTA. Being a Genesis-style atty, there is no vacuum and so you need air to flow between the wicks and the holes to make the capillary action work agreeing gravity to get the juice to the coil. You have to know how to wick the tank you have. Top airflow, vacuum, stuff the juice holes but not too tight as cotton swells. Close everything off when you fill and don't open till after you screw on the top or the positive pressure you exert into the tank will force the juice into the chamber. If you remember and do all this, which I believe is exactly what is said in the instruction manual, your tank shouldn't flood unless it's defying physics.

After reading your post again I'm gonna make a hasty assumption and say that you don't know to close off the juice fill and airflow holes while filling. It seems that if you did know this, you would know that filling it fast or slow makes no difference whatsoever.

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Before I go on with this post I want to say that YMMV and that in no way do I mean offense in anything I'm about to say.

It's all physics. Tanks work because of pressure. If your tank's pressure is offset by a slipped off o-ring, not closing the airflow and juice fill ports,
inadequate wicking (most likely the case in your scenario), etc., then your tank will leak or flood in the case of the Sapor. The only reason juice actually came up your airflow is because you took some pulls on it after it was already flooded. With gravity against the juice there is literally no way to get the juice in the airflow section unless it's already flooded because of an improper filling/wicking and you continue to use it. Even if the tank were flooded and you turned it upside down you'd have to leave it upside down for a while before juice would come seeping out.

If you get the wicking right, which I have to say after experience with a handful of rbas over the past few years has proven the most forgiving and easiest to do in the Sapor versus any bottom airflow tank, and you fill it right and maintain the vacuum, the tank is leak-proof.

So no, I haven't encountered that issue. I experienced lots of flooding with the Joyetech Cubis POS because even though that was top airflow the initial coils (never tried the notch coils) were so badly designed that they wicked too much and didn't have well designed airflow to draw the vapor efficiently and maintain a correct vacuum.

I have 2 Limitless RDTAs. I wick them completely differently than the Sapor RTA. Being a Genesis-style atty, there is no vacuum and so you need air to flow between the wicks and the holes to make the capillary action work agreeing gravity to get the juice to the coil. You have to know how to wick the tank you have. Top airflow, vacuum, stuff the juice holes but not too tight as cotton swells. Close everything off when you fill and don't open till after you screw on the top or the positive pressure you exert into the tank will force the juice into the chamber. If you remember and do all this, which I believe is exactly what is said in the instruction manual, your tank shouldn't flood unless it's defying physics.

After reading your post again I'm gonna make a hasty assumption and say that you don't know to close off the juice fill and airflow holes while filling. It seems that if you did know this, you would know that filling it fast or slow makes no difference whatsoever.

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Not sure what YMMV means at the beginning of your post but in any event I do believe that I do know how to wick my Sapors jj,I take my time and never rush the process and always recheck everything once am done,yes I do know about closing off juice flow and air flow control when filling but to be honest with you I refill my Sapor multiple times a day without closing the airflow and they never flood so that kind of throws your theory out the window,am not offended but your response kind of emplies that am a nitwit newbi which am not but its all good I was just trying to help jj,but am sure you handle any issues that come along so no need for my advice;-) take care bud and hope your package arrives soon....
 
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