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paulipring

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Long time reader of the forums, finally made an account.

I'm in need of a new mod and looking for advice or opinions. I've been vaping for about three or four years and for about the last two and a half years, my main devices have been an IPV2 and iStick 50w, with an original Kanger Subtank and original Aspire Atlantis. The Atlantis is no longer with me, due to an unfortunate incident with a moment of excitement during a football game and unintentionally testing its flight capabilities, but the Subtank is still alive and kicking. However, both of my mods are on their way out the door from standard wear and tear over the years. I'm also very open to suggestions to upgrade my tank. The little sucker is still plugging along well, but it is quite old.

Obviously I haven't upgraded in a long time and with many more options available these days, it's a little overwhelming. I tried a new setup once a little over a year ago, but I was unsatisfied with it, so I wanted to ask for some direction first. Here's a basic rundown of what I'm looking for in a mod (I'm happy with the iStick 50w and could just try to find another, but I'm not sure if there's something better out there):
Only one battery needed, with a charging port on the unit
Can run at least 40-50w, I usually run about 30-35w on a 0.5 ohm coil
Solid battery life (full day of moderate use)
Prefer box over tube style
Prefer not to pay over $50, but will if it's worth it
Temperature control options don't matter to me

For reference, the setup I wasn't happy with was:
Sigelei 75w TC. Felt like it drained battery rather quickly and the charging port loosened up pretty quick, so it will not reliably charge, but that could just be chalked up to bad luck.
Uwell Crown tank. Had good reviews at the time, but just wasn't my thing. I felt like it required more power to work well than I liked, which also contributed to poor battery life.

Sorry if this is a little long and tedious, but I wanted to be as detailed as I could to avoid confusion. I greatly appreciate any input! Thanks!
 

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I second the iStick Pico 75w. Seems like anyone who touches one falls in love with it. I'm waiting for my 4th one to get here.
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Can get one for $22.40 shipped from RockyMountainVapor. Use coupon code "turkey"
 

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The Pico is cool and I own one but honestly I have to say a Pico would be on caliber with what you have right now and not really and upgrade. So I recommend a Dual Cell MOD like an Alien or Predator so you can continue your journey and have more power for when you want to step up to a more powerful tank. Just my opinion remember.
 

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+1 Eleaf Pico vote!! They are cheap, reliable and very pocket friendly.. I own a couple.. and I would get another if needed.
75w. Single 18650, does TC if that's your thing. It has firmware upgrades and you can even download a more advance program Article Fox if you want to get all tech on it.. but mine work fine just the way they come..
 

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Thanks so much for the quick and helpful responses, everyone!
I ended up deciding to go all out. Followed the heavy recommendations and ordered a Pico so I can keep doing my thing, but I also went ahead and ordered the Predator kit so I can dabble in something a little higher end. Figure it's worth exploring and if I get it and deem it completely unnecessary, I can return it. As far as tanks, I'll probably just let my old Subtank keep chugging for now, maybe replace it with the mini if it does die on me.

Looking forward to my new gear! Thanks again!
 

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I received my new mods today, and so far I'm loving them! Just had a follow up question and figured I'd throw it in here, didn't want to waste space making a whole new thread for it.
I love the Pico, perfect upgrade for the mod that I have. Unfortunately, due to the battery cap, my old subtank doesn't fit (old 25mm one), but I busted out a subtank mini for it and it's perfect!
I've been playing around with the Predator as well, and I'm enjoying it, but I had a question about batteries. I've never owned a dual battery mod before and I'm not sure how everything works for the power and obviously safety is number one.
Right now I'm using two LG HE2 batteries (20A) and have been running it around 60-75 watts (3.8-4.2V). Does anyone know around what the maximum wattage I could pump it up to safely is? I don't plan to stay on a crazy high wattage, but if I want to test it out, I want to do it safely.

Edit: I'm using the Elabo tank it came with, on their .25 ohm coil (mod reads .24)
 
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good rule of thumb is 50-60 watts per battery. amp draw is calculated by:

max wattage/mod cut off voltage

so if your mod cuts off at 3.2 volts and your max wattage is 60....

60/3.2=18.75 amps

since you have a dual battery mod, and the batteries "share the load" it would be"

(60/2)/3.2=9.375 amp per battery. (not including chip efficiency)

everyone has a different level of safety for themselves. me personally, I don't push batteries more that 75% of the CDR.

look up Moody's blog for all kinds of battery info.
 

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I received my new mods today, and so far I'm loving them! Just had a follow up question and figured I'd throw it in here, didn't want to waste space making a whole new thread for it.
I love the Pico, perfect upgrade for the mod that I have. Unfortunately, due to the battery cap, my old subtank doesn't fit (old 25mm one), but I busted out a subtank mini for it and it's perfect!
I've been playing around with the Predator as well, and I'm enjoying it, but I had a question about batteries. I've never owned a dual battery mod before and I'm not sure how everything works for the power and obviously safety is number one.
Right now I'm using two LG HE2 batteries (20A) and have been running it around 60-75 watts (3.8-4.2V). Does anyone know around what the maximum wattage I could pump it up to safely is? I don't plan to stay on a crazy high wattage, but if I want to test it out, I want to do it safely.

Edit: I'm using the Elabo tank it came with, on their .25 ohm coil (mod reads .24)

Here are a current list of good batteries:

Mooch's Recommended Batteries | E-Cigarette Forum

Check what you have with the ohms calculator to make sure your vaping safely..

Ohms Law Calculator

And upgrade to better battery as needed.
 

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So with a dual battery setup, does it effectively double the power? Such as, since I'm using two 20A batteries, am I safe up to use up to roughly 40A, hypothetically? Or is there some sort of calculation to say that since they are working together, it works out to 32.6A (made up number for the sake of argument)?

Of course I'm not looking to sustain my maximum available power or anything, just want to know what sort of range I'm working with to keep things safe and better understand my device. According to the ohms law calculator posted, I'm near 100w before I even hit 20A.

I'll also look into the blog posted to try and gain a better understanding, but personal experience tips and knowledge are always highly valued and appreciated!
 
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So with a dual battery setup, does it effectively double the power? Such as, since I'm using two 20A batteries, am I safe up to use up to roughly 40A, hypothetically? Or is there some sort of calculation to say that since they are working together, it works out to 32.6A (made up number for the sake of argument)?

Of course I'm not looking to sustain my maximum available power or anything, just want to know what sort of range I'm working with to keep things safe and better understand my device. According to the ohms law calculator posted, I'm near 100w before I even hit 20A.

I'll also look into the blog posted to try and gain a better understanding, but personal experience tips and knowledge are always highly valued and appreciated!

Personally, I am mathematically challenged. I do know in real world experience running the Sony VTC4 (if I remember correctly) which Mooch rates out at 23A, running them in a Wismec Reuleaux 3 battery device, it max's out at 157 watts..

This is my son's device, so I don't know exactly what coils he runs in that.. but he is getting factory coils in the wismec reaux tank.. so there is a limited range for him to be running.

If you want to run the fullest possibility of your device, get those LG HB2's as they have a 30A rating.. they are some of the best for high wattage vaping.

I don't know what safety features are in that predator, but in the wismec reuleaux it won't let you exceed the capability of the batteries.
 
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Since they run in series your amps are going to be 20a.

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Thank you for that. As I said, I have no idea how that really works. I'll probably pick up some of the 30A batteries mentioned at some point, if I decide to test it out on higher power levels. I'll keep it under 100w for now. At 75w or so, it already kicks much harder than anything I'm used to. Not going to lie, it's kind of fun! :vapor::laugh:
 
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Thank you for that. As I said, I have no idea how that really works. I'll probably pick up some of the 30A batteries mentioned at some point, if I decide to test it out on higher power levels. I'll keep it under 100w for now. At 75w or so, it already kicks much harder than anything I'm used to. Not going to lie, it's kind of fun! :vapor::laugh:

My son found his happy place around 60 watts, he likes it there.. he finds vaping a lot of fun that way.. I don't think many ever vape above 100 watt.. some I'm sure, but I think more than anything the power is more of a Tim the Toolman Taylor thing. "Power.. More Power!" Hahaha..

Find wherever you enjoy to vape and be happy. (My happy place is around 12 watts.. lol)

As I mentioned in my son's reuleaux, it has safety features which won't let him exceed his battery limit. The predator is made by the same company, so you might try increasing your wattage, and see where the device stops you from going any further.

Just estimating that it should maybe stop you somewhere between 140 - 150 watts.

If it does, then you have the same safety feature as the reuleaux does...

You can try going higher than 75 watts.. my son did it once.. you have to try it at least once.. :)

(As a beside, my son is 33... so picture a man and not a kid.. lol)
 
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Just to add, don't push your device if it cuts you off at whatever watts you have it set to. It won't like it.
The only tank/coil I've used (from the manufacturer, not built) was the Sigelei SLDR L w/the L12 coil, I had to use 120 watts just to get it going.

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