Would you go the extra $ and get a ProVari ???

[SoberSnyper]

Whats the amp limit of the provari again?

3.5 amps and 15 watts. What is your point?

 

[elprup7]

Okay, I've seen the oscillascope readings on the vamo and the ProVari. Here's the question though, will the end user actually notice the fractional second drops in voltage? For the end user to actually notice, that coil has to drop in heat a significant amount. The coil is a physical device which has to change in heat based on the power it's given and cool down during that interval. Does it have time during that interval to change heat and how fast will it drop heat?

You can certainly argue that it's not good for the coil for that to occur, since rapid temperature changes stress metal. However, in terms of the vape, I'm not sure it even matters. You can say it does, but it's the coil(s) that produce the vape. Fractional second changes in voltage probably aren't going to matter in terms of the physics.

EXACTLY the small fractional differences in the accuracy are not observable in use

 

[elprup7]

Here we go again with the generalities. What companies are building better devices at half the price? When I say better, I mean prove it with numbers. There are a multitude of videos on youtube that prove the Provari is more accurate in voltage output than the Chinese devices. Stop stating your opinions as facts.

how does more accurate(unnoticeably i might add) mean better vape?????????

 

[elprup7]

A mechanical mod with a Kick is literally then a regulated variable wattage mod. Your point was moot.

?no he said you cannot achieve regulation with a mech mod, but you can with a kick
how is that moot?
symantics?
adding a kick regulates a mechanical mod. the mod itself is still mechanical.

 

[elprup7]

I would go for the provari. Seen a lot of reviews raving about it. My next purchase is probably going to be a provari with a nautilus tank.

nautilus tank is a GREAT clearo, probably the best i've used

 

[Mirza]

Heard it gives you great vapor. Was curious about long you can go before you need to change the coil.

 

[SoberSnyper]

The provari v2 has a whopping 3.5 amp limit!!?!?!!

Congradulations they matched an mvp. With all the new 5 amp limit regulated mods out, yes it is outdated tech.

Yeah, so how does that make it outdated? MVP is only an 11 watt device, Provari is 15 watts. What kind of coil build do you have to have on a Provari to hit the 3.5 amp limit before you hit the 15 watt limit? I await your reply.

 

[SoberSnyper]

A good vape can be had at those levels. But what about people who dont like the vape at that range? What about those who like to vape at 30 watts? Are you saying they are doing it wrong? Not everyone runs dual coils or runs around like a fog machine. You are making a generalization a little there. Keep in mind different strokes.

the more I read of these posts alot of people are dodging one thing. You paid $150-$200 for a tube that simply holds a battery at the end of the day. And runs a chip that by standards in electronics is outdated. Seems alot of people are trying to make themselves feel better about that.

Here we go again, I thought we were talking about devices that were half the price of a Provari? Now the DNA 30 mods are being brought up again. How does the buck circuitry work in the DNA's anyway? Oh that's right, it can't step down voltage.

 

[chrisj3982]

Yes, I would. It's actually going to be my next purchase in a few weeks


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[zapped]

Whats the amp limit of the provari again?

Who cares really?

I took up vaping to quit a 2 pack a day habit that was slowly killing me each and every time I smoked.

The Provari has been hands down the most reliable and dependable piece of equipment Ive owned in the entire time Ive been vaping and I dont think I could have made 18 months without it.

Many of us old-school, more experienced and seasoned vapers are absolutely fine with the equivalent of 8 watts or even less.

If you want to blow ZOMG MAD CLOWDZ! buy a fog machine and attach it to a refrigerator dolly hooked into a car battery with a laptop readout.

Wouldnt look any more or less ridiculous than those flat brimmed hats and saggy jeans that the younger generation seems to favor.

Dont confuse change for progress, they arent always the same.

AND GET OFF MY DAMN LAWN WHILE YOUR AT IT AS WELL!

 

[elprup7]

Heard it gives you great vapor. Was curious about long you can go before you need to change the coil.

usually about a month. but some coils could last longer.
you will know when its burnt out.

 

[PiWright42]

please explain this difference in PWM and how it affects anything.

To me low frequency PWM comes across as cooler in a given voltage/wattage setting. This is because you have power on for a fraction of a second and then power off for another fraction of a second. While inside a very short one to two second draw I'm hard pressed to express a difference anything over that averages out where the cooler temp makes for a more muted, less full, flavor. A higher frequency is harder to discern.

As an analogy, 48hz is like a 1970's Zenith, good enough to watch but meh compared to a modern flat panel. Now 800hz is like a super HD TV where the image quality is so good you can't really see the difference between a super HD and a HD image but man sports and high speed action scenes are way crisp.

actually the whole point of this thread was to prove to another member the provari was worth the cost, which YOU have not.

That is a subjective value. As someone who tried a cheap VV almost three and a half years ago, (the Knight Rider which is a Lava Tube), prior to getting a ProVari I have to admit the ProVari is worth it to me. YMMV and as you've often opined, very much does.

still does not mean provari is worth what it cost.

Again subjective. I have a three year old ProVari that still works. Even battered and bruised and in need of a refresh from ma ProVape it still gives the voltage I set according to my volt meter. At some 5.3 pennies a day, (three years divided by $200.00), that is a prime value in the long haul. Your vape budget may be different, which as you said many times it is.

if you cant fix something SIMPLE you own when it breaks/malfunctions etc. then you should not own it.

Forgive the analogy but...

This is why I own a 1956 Ford F100. It's a resto-mod so it has some modern tech in it. Does that mean I should not get a 2015 Mustang? You know because all the wiring and engineering stuffed in such a tiny area makes it almost impossible for me to maintain every aspect of it with the tools and equipment I have on hand?

except i also said that hana modz are WORTH the cost.

Again subjective. The Hana is worth the cost for me. Trust me I'm still waiting on the SSVapes waiting list. With a $250.00 price tag, a three month wait and no step down regulation, (reducing it's overall flexibility), it almost isn't.

 

[trichome]

Hi All,
First post woohoo. Anyway this is a current question I'm fighting with atm. And tbh the provari is loosing. First is the price, it's the most expensive VV device I've seen, second it's only VV, which I rarely use I'm a VW vaper and finally and this one is my main reason I recently got an Authentic Kayfun Lite+ v2 and think the Semovar/Nivel would be a much better option for me. It's also cheaper and VV/VW plus can be used as a Mechanical which I'm starting to get into.

 

[SoberSnyper]

exception MVP you blind? and the VTR is much better than both MVPs

The VTR does not have the same signal as a MVP. Are you having a problem keeping up?

 

[PiWright42]

Hi All,
First post woohoo. Anyway this is a current question I'm fighting with atm. And tbh the provari is loosing. First is the price, it's the most expensive VV device I've seen, second it's only VV, which I rarely use I'm a VW vaper and finally and this one is my main reason I recently got an Authentic Kayfun Lite+ v2 and think the Semovar/Nivel would be a much better option for me. It's also cheaper and VV/VW plus can be used as a Mechanical which I'm starting to get into.

Looks like a nice device. I have no experience with the Semovar myself so I can't say.

Nivel chip specs:
Adjustable connections
No lower than 1ohm
3w-15 or 3v-6v
Max amps is 3.5
Reverse bat protection
140 degree F cut off.
Cost is 215.00 on Vaperev

Looks pretty sweet on paper.

 

[SoberSnyper]

yet you use the MVP with the same chip...

The MVP does not use the same chip as the VTR, jeez, all you gotta do is look at the specs of each device.

 

[The Ocelot]

 

[SoberSnyper]

please explain this difference in PWM and how it affects anything.

I would, but after getting to this point in the thread, it has been pointed out by Batitude, P.opus, and slappy3139.

 

[The Ocelot]

I really need some popcorn right about now.

 

[SoberSnyper]

actually the whole point of this thread was to prove to another member the provari was worth the cost, which YOU have not.

Except that the OP has stated he is getting the provari, so he obviously thinks it is worth the extra cost.