Would you go the extra $ and get a ProVari ???

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elprup7

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I'm done with you elprup7...

You have your opinion and I have mine.

At least I know the difference between opinion and fact. It's a subtle difference you have yet discovered.

its not a subtle difference. you have stated no facts, i've refuted your every point with the exception to possibly more accurate regulation, which IF true are unnoticeable differences.
 
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now did he measure the old VTR or the new one with the fixed ring. IMO this flaw was fixed with the fixed ring
The ring has absolutely nothing to do with the circuit board chip. innokin didn't change the original chip in the VTR, which only fires at 46 Hz. Same old rattlesnake effect.
 

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Something funny is everyone swing with PB and his reasearch and opinions. I get it. He is good and has done some testing. He compaed a provari with some different mods. Has he yested 10, 100 , 1000 different provaris to see if they are all as accurate? How many provari owners have honestly put their mods on a scope and checked? Can any of us honestly say 1000%we know exactly what our mods are putting out at any given poit. Mechs excluded.
 

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The ring has absolutely nothing to do with the circuit board chip. Innokin didn't change the original chip in the VTR, which only fires at 46 Hz. Same old rattlesnake effect.

the rattlesnake effect is again a aesthetic IMO. the sounds does nothing to the quality of the vape. the ring can affect volt drop and resistance
 

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Ding ding ding! We have a winner! And for many of us, that happens to be a Provari.

Have to disagree. Provari doesnt do VW. Only VV. And calculating wattage based off voltage requires some math involved and the general public doesnt want to be bothered by calculating laws of ohms and math. So that leaves alot of people looking elsewhere when they see VV only and the premium price hanging on it when the can buy a mvp for 1/4 the cost and get a consistant vape no matter what tank they screw on it.
 

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Something funny is everyone swing with PB and his reasearch and opinions. I get it. He is good and has done some testing. He compaed a provari with some different mods. Has he yested 10, 100 , 1000 different provaris to see if they are all as accurate? How many provari owners have honestly put their mods on a scope and checked? Can any of us honestly say 1000%we know exactly what our mods are putting out at any given poit. Mechs excluded.

I don't need to put my mod on a scope. I can read my voltage with a plain jane volt meter... And yes, I know exactly what I am outputting.
 

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exception MVP you blind? and the VTR is much better than both MVPs
No, I'm not blind. I own an MVP, too. It has a smoother vape than the Smoktechs and Segelei's I have.

However, I still prefer using a Provari over the MVP. At the end of the MVP's battery charge, the power drops off just like a mechanical mod. Typical LiPo battery characteristic. The Provari's superior Accuset chip allows that the last puff is as good as the first.

My friends have VTR's. Typical rattlesnake chip. I wouldn't use one if it was given to me for free. To each his own.
 

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No, I'm not blind. I own an MVP, too. It has a smoother vape than the Smoktechs and Segelei's I have.

However, I still prefer using a Provari over the MVP. At the end of the MVP's battery charge, the power drops off just like a mechanical mod. Typical LiPo battery characteristic. The Provari's superior Accuset chip allows that the last puff is as good as the first.

My friends have VTR's. Typical rattlesnake chip. I wouldn't use one if it was given to me for free. To each his own.

yet you use the MVP with the same chip...
 

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...... get a consistant vape no matter what tank they screw on it.

So an eVod at 6.5 watts will vape the same as a Kayfun at 6.5 watts or a Aspire Nautilus at 6.5 watts?

And I also know you never tried a ProVari, which actually makes your opinions irrelevant since we can't have a discussion without a common frame of reference.

You see, I do own an MVP and ProVari and the difference is noticable, ESPECIALLY when the MVP struggles to keep up when it's cell voltage starts to dip to 3.7 and below. Nothing wrong with the MVP. It's my travel mod. It's also the mod I suggest all new vapers getting into VV/VW start out on. You will get a nice mod for around $45.00 that should last a year or so and give you a high quality vape but won't lure you in with any false expectations since it is basically disposable.

By the time you wear out an MVP, you will know what type of vaper you are and will be able to choose your next mod accordingly.

The MVP is a fine mod, especially for the price, but it is no ProVari....Not by a long shot.
 

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Have to disagree. Provari doesnt do VW. Only VV. And calculating wattage based off voltage requires some math involved and the general public doesnt want to be bothered by calculating laws of ohms and math. So that leaves alot of people looking elsewhere when they see VV only and the premium price hanging on it when the can buy a mvp for 1/4 the cost and get a consistant vape no matter what tank they screw on it.

One only needs to know first grade math to do VV. ohms plus "2" = volts. Or is that over your head?

I adjust to my specific flavors and to taste anyway. I had VW on my mods and never used it. Why anyone would want to vape different flavors at the same wattage is beyond me. To each their own.
 

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So an eVod at 6.5 watts will vape the same as a Kayfun at 6.5 watts or a Aspire Nautilus at 6.5 watts?

And I also know you never tried a ProVari, which actually makes your opinions irrelevant since we can't have a discussion without a common frame of reference.

You see, I do own an MVP and ProVari and the difference is noticable, ESPECIALLY when the MVP struggles to keep up when it's cell voltage starts to dip to 3.7 and below. Nothing wrong with the MVP. It's my travel mod. It's also the mod I suggest all new vapers getting into VV/VW start out on. You will get a nice mod for around $45.00 that should last a year or so and give you a high quality vape but won't lure you in with any false expectations since it is basically disposable.

By the time you wear out an MVP, you will know what type of vaper you are and will be able to choose your next mod accordingly.

The MVP is a fine mod, especially for the price, but it is no ProVari....Not by a long shot.

Annnnnnd if you had bothered to read my first post on this thread you would note I have handled and vaped a provari. Therefore your post becomes null and void to me. If you cant be bothered by reading why qould I believe you can bw botjered by putting a meter on your provari? Which you still never answered how accurate it was.
 

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yet you use the MVP with the same chip...

Wrong AGAIN!!!! The MVP and VV3 do not use the same chipset as the others. The MVP actually doesn't have any PWM at all. It is two LiPO's in series and it simply uses step down circuitry to reduce the output of the device and maintain a flat voltage signal....

Yeah, because the MVP has that propritary series LiPo pack it can get away with doing things differently than a device that must rely on a single LiIon cell (like 18650, 18350..18490 etc...)

elprup7. You would really should research and know what your talking about. It will definitely be less embarrassing for you.
 
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