Wow, really?!

[SlimXero]

Ok, as i've mentioned before i work for the Florida Department of Corrections. I just passed my 6 month mark. I've vaped on and off nearly that entire time. I've always brought my PV's to work, with no issues (some funny looks, some questions, but nothing more). Well yesterday, on my 6 month anniversary, the Interdiction team showed up (the equivalent of Internal Affairs for our department, more or less). They were performing searches of ALL staff and visitors, and illicit substance testing. Well during the search, my PV's came into question, more specifically the e-liquid. They said since they couldn't identify the "unknown liquid" in the bottle, i wouldn't be allowed to take it on the compound. And since i didn't have a key to the car i came in (i ride with a friend), they confiscated it. All of it. PV's, liquid, spare atty's, spare battery, the whole 9. I have to go without it until i can see the warden.

To clarify, I'm not upset at the fact they confiscated it; i understand why they did it. We're in a controlled environment, and they can't be too careful. But the bottles were labeled, they wrote me a confiscation receipt that says "two bottles of unknown liquid substance, labeled 'liquid nicotine'", so that's confusing. And i'm aggravated that i had/have to go 2 days without it. They were there when we got there and stayed until after we left; why couldn't i retrieve it from them? I guess i'm not really looking for answers to these questions, just looking to vent a little bit. Thanks for listening.

 

[andygee]

That's rough, I feel for you. My main brand actually comes with (for customs purposes) an actual signed affidavit explaining what the stuff is, why it isn't a hazmat, and advice to wash your eyes if you break open a cartridge and get the stuff in your eyes. I should keep it in case I'm ever "interdicted" I guess...

 

[Hygroscopic]

Thier issue probably isn't the fact it is nicotine, but how it is labeled. Can they be sure something else isn't in it? That it isn't a cover to slip in other contraband? Say that nine times out of ten it is ejuice and the tenth time it is something else in that bottle. Or at least that is where their thought process is deriving from.

AFAIK & FWIW you are on the level. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.
I could see why they'd tag and bag it. Just to err on the side of caution.

Yeah it's not the same but perhaps consider cartos/an adapter with cartos for work?

 

[SlimXero]

I've never been a fan of cartos. and for the volume i vape, i'd have to carry like 6-8 of them for an 8 hour period.

 

[Liv2Ski]

Wow that sucks. Almost like being treated as one of the inmates. That job is hard enough I can't imagine not having my PV. Did you make it through the day or did you bum a smoke? I am at the three month mark and wonder what would happen if I was without my PV for a few hours???? Good luck man

 

[SlimXero]

i've stayed analog free, bummed some dip to get me through

 

[Liv2Ski]

Good for you, Hang tough and I hope those guys didn't vape up too much of you juice or fry your atty. I wonder if they were tempted to try it????

 

[SlimXero]

They were placed in a sealed bag and sent to the warden...I know for a fact he's a non smoker lol

 

[BiohazardVideo]

From one who's been on the other side of your job i can speak with some authority... Some guards smuggled in various drugs and they had no idea if the opened bottle was what it said. As a responsible vaper, in your line of work, you probably should have cleared your vape kit prior to taking it into a secure facility. I'm not putting you down, I was one of the "good inmates" that followed the rules, did my time and got out to lead a productive life. I was friends with many guards, but their are the bad ones looking to pad their wallet in wrong ways. In the future, take your kit to a supervisor and make everything on the up and up. I pray for your success and also for your vaping rights.

 

[SlimXero]

Well that's the thing, i understand completely about them taking it, i was just upset about the amount of time i have to wait to get it. And my supervisor's have all known about it from the gate, this was a team of inspectors that go from facility to facility doing just this.

 

[BiohazardVideo]

If your supervisor knew about it and you had clearance then go to your supervisor and file a grievance, if it was cleared their should be no issue. when the Interdiction team came through the facility I was at the captain over ruled a bunch of crap they tried to pull. they were really peaved, but he cleared non issue sunglasses for a guy with a prescription and they were "designer frames" they tried to take them saying they "were a gift for favors" even though they had prescription lenses in them.... Petty BS...

 

[SlimXero]

i got it back yesterday after work. Warden handed it right to me and just told me to avoid bringing the liquid in whenever the interdiction team comes by. They have no reason to search our vehicles so that wouldn't be an issue.

 

[maureengill]

Good to hear you got your pv back.

 

[Biomom]

I'm granted totally unfamiliar with drugs, etc. But, *what* in the world else could it have been?

I've ordered from half a dozen different liquid sellers, and Johnson Creek has the most "official looking" bottle label
containing a full explanation of the contents and ingredients.

Not to promote anti-authority (even when they're idiots), but maybe just transfer your juice to benign containers,
like an iodine bottle well washed/run thru dishwasher/boiled or a Visine bottle? Or refill a Johnson Creek bottle with
your favorite juice.

Good luck!

 

[sam12six]

I'm granted totally unfamiliar with drugs, etc. But, *what* in the world else could it have been?

In color and consistency, several of the liquids I've used look like hash oil (and they even carry it in similar dripper bottles)

I've ordered from half a dozen different liquid sellers, and Johnson Creek has the most "official looking" bottle label
containing a full explanation of the contents and ingredients.

Not to promote anti-authority (even when they're idiots), but maybe just transfer your juice to benign containers,
like an iodine bottle well washed/run thru dishwasher/boiled or a Visine bottle? Or refill a Johnson Creek bottle with
your favorite juice.

I happen to be quite anti-authority, but I think it might be a bad idea. If they took a look and realized it wasn't iodine, visine, or whatever bottle was used, then it would look MORE like he was smuggling contraband... might cause more of a problem than he had this time.


Good luck!

If leaving it in the car isn't too much of a hassle, that's what I'd do. I've found that dealing with petty inspector types, going out of my way to do things the way they want is easier than explaining why what I'm doing isn't wrong. For something this minor, it's not worth it...

 

[Ajaxus]

I'd just refill a cart, take a few hits, unzip front of pants and volunteer to do a drug test.

When it comes back clean, tell them to stick it..hehehe

 

[bassthumper]

I know you said you don't like cartos, but maybe you could make an exception?

I'd use XL E2's and label them. But then again that's me.

 

[Wilvin]

Do you know when this team comes to inspect? If you do then what good does that do? I mean if you know they are coming why would you have something illegal with you. Any way maybe find a company that has a label that looks official and transfer your juice to that. Too bad they took it from you, but like you said there is a reason for it. If they are not sure what it is, they can not let you slide. I hope the next time they come they don't take it from you.

 

[Sainted_S]

Being the cynic that I am I would probably just use the minimal amount of cartos you need for work or not bring the juice in at all. I have never worked in the prison system, however have alot of experience in the juvenile justice system. I mean, nicotine is a poison, if it somehow was stolen from you and there was an incident, it would come back on you. You know you have to watch yourself and drama and controversy happens all the time, you don't want to set yourself up if someone decides you'd be a nice person to set up.

 

[OgreLokon]

I'd just refill a cart, take a few hits, unzip front of pants and volunteer to do a drug test.

When it comes back clean, tell them to stick it..hehehe

Hash oil wouldn't show up immediately in a urine test. That tests for the drug metabolites, which is what is generated after your body is done with the active compounds.