Wrapping Coils for Newbs

[Smallville]

I recommend getting some 28GA or 30GA Kanthal and looking into micro coils. Get a 3/64" or 5/64" screwdriver or bit and try to replicate it. You will need around 14-17+ wraps to hit a good, safe, low resistance ohm around 1.3Ω to 1.8Ω at those diameters.

You won't need to invest in anything else aside from the wire and it will give you tremendous experience in wrapping coils once you manage to build your first good coil. My advice is to, again, place the wraps very close together (touching). That's really all there is to it. Check out the picture I posted above and use it as a guideline. You won't be disappointed

Ok, I found a shop in town that has 28GA Kanthal, so I know what I will be doing tonight.. 14-17 wraps.. ok, the ones I made were like 6-10 wraps and registered 1.8. I'll make sure to get on tonight and let you know how it panned out. Also, I will try and post a pic of my battery.

 

[Smallville]

So I followed the advice you all gave yesterday I wrapped a 15 wrap microcoil. The flavor on the vape is fantastic and I am satisfied with the amount of vapor I am gettiing, would like to see just a little more but oh well. The wrap came out to 1.5 ohms.

 

[Enoch777]

I'm glad to hear it

Another user pointed out my mistakes in wrapping coils and after following his/her instructions I had much the same result. That was like 4+ months ago.

You'll get better and better and your coils will start performing exactly how you want them to, just takes practice. Highly suggest once you feel comfortable, to give different diameters, wicks, and coil types a try. Experiment! Things like nanos, nano dragons, and diamond coils which easily put out sub-ohm quantities of vapor all within low resistance range.

They do put out more vapor on a freshly charged battery and you might want to look into getting some more airflow to increase vapor production exponentially. The videos of you see guys blowing huge clouds, I guarantee if you look close you will see one huge airflow hole. I also highly recommend when installing your cotton wick that you make it quite loose and fluffy. I'll post a few pictures showing how I install my wicks for best flavor/vapor production.

Even then, I change them once a day, but that about sums up my maintenance to continue vaping at the level I currently am.

Vape well, vape often

 

[Smallville]

I'm glad to hear it

Another user pointed out my mistakes in wrapping coils and after following his/her instructions I had much the same result. That was like 4+ months ago.

You'll get better and better and your coils will start performing exactly how you want them to, just takes practice. Highly suggest once you feel comfortable, to give different diameters, wicks, and coil types a try. Experiment! Things like nanos, nano dragons, and diamond coils which easily put out sub-ohm quantities of vapor all within low resistance range.

They do put out more vapor on a freshly charged battery and you might want to look into getting some more airflow to increase vapor production exponentially. The videos of you see guys blowing huge clouds, I guarantee if you look close you will see one huge airflow hole. I also highly recommend when installing your cotton wick that you make it quite loose and fluffy. I'll post a few pictures showing how I install my wicks for best flavor/vapor production.

Even then, I change them once a day, but that about sums up my maintenance to continue vaping at the level I currently am.

Vape well, vape often

I think that was problem too, I had my cotton in the coil like it was a piece of rope. Next time I used a LOT less cotton and got better performance. I'll probably use this coil for a tank or two on the kayfun, since it is impossible to remove the tank without losing the juice.

 

[Enoch777]

Yea you know, I realized posting pictures for a wick for use in an RDA is really going to almost certainly be a little different than what would work better in a Kayfun. I'd try your best to get at least one side of the wick very thin so you can obviously thread it through the tiny micro coil. Then, try to get the other side a bit thicker on the opposite side (as in not threaded through the coil).

This should allow it to wick nicely up from the channels and also give you a decent reservoir for wetter, more flavorful hits with a tiny bit more vapor production.

As long as you're getting good flavor and nice vapor you should be good to go, it sounds like you're doing it right already.

Wicking definitely plays a crucial role in vapor production, but airflow is really the key here. I'm waiting on some diamond files so I can open up the airflow in my IGO-T and see what kind of awesomeness I can get out of it

 

[Smallville]

Yea you know, I realized posting pictures for a wick for use in an RDA is really going to almost certainly be a little different than what would work better in a Kayfun. I'd try your best to get at least one side of the wick very thin so you can obviously thread it through the tiny micro coil. Then, try to get the other side a bit thicker on the opposite side (as in not threaded through the coil).

This should allow it to wick nicely up from the channels and also give you a decent reservoir for wetter, more flavorful hits with a tiny bit more vapor production.

As long as you're getting good flavor and nice vapor you should be good to go, it sounds like you're doing it right already.

Wicking definitely plays a crucial role in vapor production, but airflow is really the key here. I'm waiting on some diamond files so I can open up the airflow in my IGO-T and see what kind of awesomeness I can get out of it

That and I also removed the screw from the airhole, that helps as well, although it's a little noisy when taking a puff LOL.

 

[Enoch777]

Hahahah xD

Sometimes my RDA whistles. People in public look at me when I'm taking a toot like "Do I call the cops???"

Ever think about getting an RDA? I'm jealous of the Kayfun, I really want one, but as I'm sure you're well aware it's a bit more effort to change flavors and get to your coil / wick assembly.

They're great for testing flavors, changing flavors frequently, or just trying something new with your build.

 

[Smallville]

Hahahah xD

Sometimes my RDA whistles. People in public look at me when I'm taking a toot like "Do I call the cops???"

Ever think about getting an RDA? I'm jealous of the Kayfun, I really want one, but as I'm sure you're well aware it's a bit more effort to change flavors and get to your coil / wick assembly.

They're great for testing flavors, changing flavors frequently, or just trying something new with your build.

I only got the Kayfun because I had a great night at the casino (bet $200 and got a black jack), so I decided to get myself a prize rather than give the money back to the casino lol. Otherwise, no way I would have dropped the coin on it.

Here is where my newb-ness is going to shine, RDA... Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer? I am betting I got that right lol. I have a Smoktech SCAR, but to be honest, I don't really like it. And the reason I don't like it is probably because I am really new to building.

 

[Enoch777]

Oh yea? Scar is a dang good RDA. Unfortunately it's dual coil setup (three posts) so unless you pump in 14+ Watts it will be hard to get dual micros on there without going sub ohm on a mech.

The reason for this is because a dual coils divide your resistance by 2. Example: 2.5Ω Coil x 2.5Ω Coil = 2.5Ω / 2 = 1.25Ω Resistance.

And if you try building something like 2.6Ω Dual Micros, trust me, they will be WAY TOO LONG to fit comfortably. And if you do get them to fit? Even though the resistance is 1.3Ω (2.6Ω x 2.6Ω = 2.6Ω / 2 = 1.3Ω) it will still fire each coil as if they're 2.6Ω despite the actual resistance being 1.3Ω.

It works, like I said, you just have to pump a lot of wattage into it on an APV. Preferably a DNA20 at like 18-20 watts to get them firing well. Also drains your bats pretty quick. Much easier to wrap a couple 2.0Ω coils and get it to 1.0Ω (or lower) on a mech.
You can of course always put a single coil build on it but a dual coil RDA has dual coil airflow. And won't perform the same as a single coil RDA setup with single coil airflow.

Alright, now that I've probably scrambled your brain with jargon... check out this video for a much simpler explanation of building a coil on your Scar