WTF just happened to my mod?

[darwinvsjesus]

I just bought an 18650 aw imr battery [2000mAh]. Took it home, charged it till green [about 2 hours], as soon as I loaded it into my maxi roughstack, the spring at the negative end got red-hot, atty didn't fire. What the ....ing ..... I am so upset. I have no other batteries as it's a new mod, and I ordered some but also bought one from a local store to be sure I'd have one. For now, i'm smoking cigarettes. Someone help me out here.

 

[Jetmec]

If this is a brand new mod I would get in touch with MadVapes, it sounds like the mod is defective, they are good about making things right.

 

[darwinvsjesus]

its not a new mod. old mod. battery is brand new. was just using this mod with lifepo4 batts not four hours ago.

 

[darwinvsjesus]

however both trustfire 18650 batteries I used in this mod did stop working after about 5 weeks?

 

[darwinvsjesus]

Big shock. 40+ views and no help. I am so disappointed in this forum. So, I burned my hand, ruined my mod, wasted 16 dollars on a battery, and have no idea what exactly what went wrong. When someone asks for help like this somebody should ....... answer them. What this hobby needs is another accident like that guy in florida, because nobody helped when he asked for help. Yeah, that'll show'em all how ....... safe we are.

 

[Clint]

Darwin, there was a short in your mod. The atomizer could have caused the battery to short.

 

[ckone180]

I'm almost positive its your atomiser or cart you have on it is shorted. That would explain the batteries you go through. It could be the roughstack, but not the first thing I'd look for being the culprit.

 

[Forkeh]

Big shock. 40+ views and no help. I am so disappointed in this forum. So, I burned my hand, ruined my mod, wasted 16 dollars on a battery, and have no idea what exactly what went wrong. When someone asks for help like this somebody should ....... answer them. What this hobby needs is another accident like that guy in florida, because nobody helped when he asked for help. Yeah, that'll show'em all how ....... safe we are.

Had it occurred to you that perhaps no one who's seen the thread, thus far, knew the answer? Be patient, it's only been a day. But until you figure out what's wrong, I wouldn't use the mod. That's not a good idea. Could be something wrong with the mod itself. Even if it's worked perfectly in the past, sometimes things so bad with no warning. Maybe you're using an atty that has a resistance that doesn't bode well with the volts your battery is putting out? What kind of atty were you using? Or maybe you got a bad battery, that significantly overcharged, which would of course make it unsafe.

Also your posts are inconsistant. Is it new or old?

 

[classwife]

Big shock. 40+ views and no help. I am so disappointed in this forum. So, I burned my hand, ruined my mod, wasted 16 dollars on a battery, and have no idea what exactly what went wrong. When someone asks for help like this somebody should ....... answer them. What this hobby needs is another accident like that guy in florida, because nobody helped when he asked for help. Yeah, that'll show'em all how ....... safe we are.

When you see views and no posts, it is people that do not know how to help you.

I recon they could have all posted that they are sorry that you have had this trouble, but it would make it more difficult to weed through the posts to find ones that contain helpful information.

And seeing many replies could also lead someone that might have the knowledge think you have already received assistance.

I am sorry that you are having this trouble...and I do not know how to help you.

 

[dee5]

Darwin, I'm sorry no one has answered your question but don't be mad about it. You don't want 40+ people chiming in with "I don't know dude, hope you figure it out!", do you? It's sometimes hard to tell exactly what the problem is without having the mod in front of you and listening to the whole story. My 1 year old Infinity died recently when I put new batts in it too. BUT, I had also dropped it hard about 3 times and it was leaking juice bad sooooo, maybe that had something to do with it. They don't last forever, you know? I bit the bullet and bought a new one. If there is a local vaper group for you to join, do so. Someone there might be able to help you. And please do contact the company- they might be able to fix it for you.

 

[Rocketman]

Or maybe the WTF, and nunya, ......bidness, and tone of your post has set people off providing you with a reasonable answer.
Heck, If I said it was your fault be overtightening the carto and crushing the insulator, you'd probably call me all kinds of names that the forum software would sensor out . . . . . . . . . . .



Attitude has it's place. Just not when asking for help

(oh, and gets the facts straight. Hard to answer a moving target)

 

[JollyRogers]

Most likely your atomizer shorted. Atomizers are prone to this due to over tightening and the weak silicon gasket that separates the center conductor from the outer side that is the return to neg of the battery. I guess the neg spring is not one to compress when it heats up. Most do, to protect you from a short like this. Did it shrink up? or did it get oxidized/black from the heat? I would suggest cleaning the spring if you can get to it, visually check the mod and if you have a multimeter, check it with no atomizer installed and verify it is getting ~4.2v to the center conductor of the battery connection. Then if it appears OK, try a different atomizer.

As far as your last comment, I just saw your post. I am not apologizing, and BTW, what this "hobby" needs is people that don't understand what they are dealing with to consider not using a "MOD".

 

[cags]

Big shock. 40+ views and no help. I am so disappointed in this forum. So, I burned my hand, ruined my mod, wasted 16 dollars on a battery, and have no idea what exactly what went wrong. When someone asks for help like this somebody should ....... answer them. What this hobby needs is another accident like that guy in florida, because nobody helped when he asked for help. Yeah, that'll show'em all how ....... safe we are.

my goodness, give people a chance! we are all here because we like vaping, we are not paid and it is not our job to answer questions! "we" do it because we like being helpful and want others to succeed. you need to give the thread more than an hour and a half before you have a fit.


did you just go get a battery at radio shack ? sorry, I don't use mods and that is the only thing I can think of which is why I didn't originally reply!

 

[Rocketman]

If it's a new mod as you said, contact Madvapes.
If it's an old mod as you said then troubleshoot before putting a high current IMR cell in it.
Did it trip the protection on Trustfire 18650 cells or did they just die after 5 weeks in this mod?
Did they both die at about the same time?
Did the lack of short circuit protection with the AW IMR surprise you?

Give us some clear data and you may get a clear answer, but it will still most likely include the recommendation to get a cheap multimeter. Which will be very useful when your new mod comes in and you start stacking batteries again.

If you need help learning how to use the meter, this great forum is the place to learn.

 

[niczgreat]

however both trustfire 18650 batteries I used in this mod did stop working after about 5 weeks?

Trustfires are Garbage but they still should last more than 5 weeks.

1. You may have a defective battery charger. The way to tell is to buy a cheap Multimeter around $7.50 at Harbor Freight and see if your charger is overvolting the batteries.

I've heard that older chargers may overvolt the IMR Chemistry.
2. Once you've eliminated the Batteries as a culprit, I'd suggest that you test the voltage coming out of the Mod with a multimeter and no Atty. If the voltage is normal than you've possibly eliminated a faulty unit
3. Try a different Atomizer.
4. You may want to just ignore this and return the mod to the vendor if it's still under warranty.

Good Luck

 

[martinc]

Its a short.

Like stated,it must come from the atty;tell us if you used diff. ones with all the failed batteries,crucial info.

That switch looks cheap too...inspect the whole top assembly if you know what to look for.

Get back to us,this is dangerous...

 

[rolygate]

The APV shorted out, batteries don't do that. If you got the one in a million dud batteries with an internal fault, the hot spring on your Roughstack would likely not have heated up.

Three possibilities:
1. You were using an adapter, and screwed the carto on too hard, causing it to distort and short out pos to neg. They're famous for this.
2. Or, you screwed the carto on to the Roughstack too hard, causing it to distort and short out - either the carto connection shorted centre to outer, or even the APV connector.
3. The carto failed to a short (it died and created a dead short instead of an open circuit). This is not usual.

#1 is the most likely, followed by #2.

You need a meter then you'll know which. If you buy an APV you need to buy a multimeter at the same time, to resolve issues with - not to mention stay safe.

 

[muzichead]

I just bought an 18650 aw imr battery [2000mAh]. Took it home, charged it till green [about 2 hours], as soon as I loaded it into my maxi roughstack, the spring at the negative end got red-hot, atty didn't fire. What the ....ing ..... I am so upset. I have no other batteries as it's a new mod, and I ordered some but also bought one from a local store to be sure I'd have one. For now, i'm smoking cigarettes. Someone help me out here.

Whom did you buy the battery from? Is it a reputable vendor or seller? Is it a genuine AW IMR battery? How would you know the spring was red hot without the end cap off? I'm sure by the time you took the end cap off it probably wasn't glowing red hot!! It may have been hot because the unit shorted and your spring did what it was supposed to do and collapsed. Most likely it was the atty that shorted and not the battery as most have suggested here. Try to take a step back and take a deep breath and trouble shoot the problem here or send it to someone that knows how to, (as in the local store you bought the battery from)....

its not a new mod. old mod. battery is brand new. was just using this mod with lifepo4 batts not four hours ago.

Confused here, is it new or old?

Big shock. 40+ views and no help. I am so disappointed in this forum. So, I burned my hand, ruined my mod, wasted 16 dollars on a battery, and have no idea what exactly what went wrong. When someone asks for help like this somebody should ....... answer them. What this hobby needs is another accident like that guy in florida, because nobody helped when he asked for help. Yeah, that'll show'em all how ....... safe we are.

I think that is just the type of attitude that isn't needed in our community.... I have lashed out on a few occasions but I think this is going over the line by more than a few inches.... I don't get how you can take a tragedy like that and put such a sadistic spin on it for your own personal gain!!!! I, as a vaper, am offended!!!! I will take a step back here to take a deep breath to get refocused and try not to lash out at you like you have done so carelessly to this community.

 

[RichieRich13]

you know, as a three week vaper i find it really funny that you got so upset about the whole "40+ views and no responses" thing... I dunno about you, but I for one do not expect the world to drop everything whenever I have a question. I am currently the owner of various MODS and simple egos - and have spent the time doing MY OWN research before buying them to know how to use them and what can go wrong if used improperly. I thank everyone here at ECF for being crucial in my understanding of the dangers of improper PV maintenance, and for helping me choose mods that work for me.

I'm just sayin dude that if a three week old can figure it out, and own a VMAX(stacked batt mod), a VMOD, a Twist, a Silver Bullet, and a Provari AND use them properly...then why can't you?

 

[Dj Xy]

Seems like were missing part of the story here

well, my second ego battery has finally bitten the dust. chomp. Not too bad I used the same pair for 2 years. So now I've got a maxi roughstack with a pair of older than time tenergy LiFePo4 3.0 volt batteries on there, and an ego tank sort of jammed in the 510 connection crooked [ I took the bolt off the button. Those of you who have used roughstacks should know what I mean.] My batteries and stuff are here, but no saber yet. I'm making what I have work, but the saber will be vapor heaven. The worst thing is that I work 6 days in a row next week, and if I wind up seeing it's getting here when I'm going to work in the afternoon [mail arrives at 4, i usually work 12-10]. It'll be a long, agonizing day. I hate mail! we need teleportation pneumatic tubes for mail. [see that futurama episode where dwight and cubert get a paper route - called the route of all evil!]

well, as they say; a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

Its possible that by taking the nut of the button you actually may have caused the short.