Ye Of Little Knowledge, This is how my Monday started

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

Actually BT is indeed evil but the true villain in restricting our right to vape is Big Pharma. *nods*

Not only will they lose billions from not selling the gum and patches but they lose billions not selling their Chantix but wait, there's more! Then on top of that they lose trillions not treating the various illnesses caused by smoking.

 

[pwheeler]

Invariably, if bt's bid to destroy vaping through misinformation and intimidation fails, then they will just increase the hell out of the price of tobacco leaves, thereby making extract really expensive. They'll try to destroy it from that angle. They'll also pressure the government to either ban or heavily tax the importation of any nicotine product. Who knows which way all this is going to turn out.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

My 2 cents - don't worry about the feds. Seems to me vaping is already booming. It's created and creating jobs. It's true that money runs this country and BT and big pharma are evil. Still, I don't think they could get it banned or so heavily regulated at this point that it will cause a vapocalypse. Maybe I'm optimistic. But I don't see how they could squash this movement...should've tried years ago if they wanted to succeed, you know?

But the government does seem pretty intent on stepping on our toes everytime they can. Let's always be conscious of what's happening, do our best to educate your every day person as this should be a ground-up movement. But don't worry...be happy

 

[Remie]

I've learned a few things on my vaping journey (and, it really is a journey).

1. Getting some ejuice on my hands is not going to hurt me.

2. My quality of life has dramatically improved since I started vaping in 2009. My two relapses back to cigs taught me how much better (i.e. fun, enjoyable, healthy, etc.) vaping is and how nasty and unpleasant smoking is. Smoking cigs was never a hobby - it was an addiction, a deeply rooted psychological one at that. Vaping gives me pleasure in areas cigarettes never could.

3. Common sense wins - always. If I don't want curious tiny people picking up my prescription meds, I keep them out of sight. If I don't want tiny humans handling my vaping supplies - same thing. This also applies to cleaning supplies etc. Common sense.

4. I have hard science to back up the benefits of vaping. Chest X-rays from pre-vaping when I was DX'd with COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) to chest X-rays just a few years into vaping - COPD completely reversed - radiology now reads my chest X-rays as completely normal.

5. My doctors fully endorse and support vaping. One told me that if everyone trying to quit would vape and successfully quit smoking he'd be out of business.

6. The only way to break a habit is to replace the unwanted behavior for another more desirable (healthier, less harmful, etc.) behavior. Chantix, nicotine gum and patches do not replace the act of smoking or do anything to satisfy the psychological aspect of the habit/addiction. The act of vaping replaces the act of smoking by satisfying the psychological aspects of the "habit".

7. Ignorance abounds. If there is anything remotely controversial about something... anything... there are going to be people making noise about it. Everyone wants to be an expert and extol the virtues of something or rip it to shreds. Why is vaping polarizing? In my opinion it's ignorance born. (or big pharma or the tobacco lobbyists or... )

I'm sorry that the OP is surrounded by people who think they know what's best for someone else. I've always believed "my body, my choice" and I'm always respectful of other's differing view points, but I carry on with what I believe is best for me.

Sorry for being so long winded... things like this make me rather sad.

Vape on

 

[Sloth Tonight]

I'm so happy you're here Remie! Just sayin'

 

[distortoblotto]

Dead on Remie, Dead on.....

 

[SavageWayz]

It's on it's way

i dont doubt Clark and the gang. I doubt USPS mixed with APO's lol

 

[bobdarkside]

Here's a story I read today about ecigs. I found it refreshing.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/inside-vapers-den-e-cig-salvation-new-dangers-n150056


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[DasBluCig]

Actually BT is indeed evil but the true villain in restricting our right to vape is Big Pharma. *nods*

Not only will they lose billions from not selling the gum and patches but they lose billions not selling their Chantix but wait, there's more! Then on top of that they lose trillions not treating the various illnesses caused by smoking.

And, lest we forget.....the "many side effects" of nearly ALL Big Pharma stuff...worse that the ailment you're treating!!
But....not to worry..... BP has THAT covered.....they just push more "product" down your throat/in your arm/up your @$$....!! ("Your first Rx is free......" ---- Sound familiar????!!!
Milton Berle said it best:
"DON'T GET ME STARTED!!!!"
Happy (vaping) Trails!

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

And, lest we forget.....the "many side effects" of nearly ALL Big Pharma stuff...worse that the ailment you're treating!!
But....not to worry..... BP has THAT covered.....they just push more "product" down your throat/in your arm/up your @$$....!! ("Your first Rx is free......" ---- Sound familiar????!!!
Milton Berle said it best:
"DON'T GET ME STARTED!!!!"
Happy (vaping) Trails!

Do not taunt happy fun ball!!!

 

[distortoblotto]

Not only will they lose billions from not selling the gum and patches but they lose billions not selling their Chantix but wait, there's more! Then on top of that they lose trillions not treating the various illnesses caused by smoking.

For some strange reason, my sympathy level is right at "Near Zero!"

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

For some strange reason, my sympathy level is right at "Near Zero!"

WIN!!!!

I HATE big pharma, with having MS they come out with these "treatments" that cost $5k a month, only kills 20% of the people who take it and only provide significant relief from MS for 15% of the people while ALL of the people taking it are made so sick they can't do anything or end up paralyzed. No thank you. I'll treat the symptoms and keep my immune system healthy. I kind of need that even if it is eating my brain.

 

[SavageWayz]

VAPE MAIL!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SavageWayz]

side note i read a article about a BT CEO that Vaps. and is now tryin to make a billion dollar deal trying to purchase Newport and BLU E CIGS.

Someone in BT is trying to take the Easy way to Vapor Money...buy a ECig Company

 

[distortoblotto]

WIN!!!!

I HATE big pharma, with having MS they come out with these "treatments" that cost $5k a month, only kills 20% of the people who take it and only provide significant relief from MS for 15% of the people while ALL of the people taking it are made so sick they can't do anything or end up paralyzed. No thank you. I'll treat the symptoms and keep my immune system healthy. I kind of need that even if it is eating my brain.

What they need to do is come up with they're own treatment for their severely chronic case of rectal cranial inversion!

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

What they need to do is come up with they're own treatment for their severely chronic case of rectal cranial inversion!

Awesome!!

 

[motabrownie]

win!!!!

I hate big pharma, with having ms they come out with these "treatments" that cost $5k a month, only kills 20% of the people who take it and only provide significant relief from ms for 15% of the people while all of the people taking it are made so sick they can't do anything or end up paralyzed. No thank you. I'll treat the symptoms and keep my immune system healthy. I kind of need that even if it is eating my brain.

^^^^this...+100000000

 

[Remie]

WIN!!!!

I HATE big pharma, with having MS they come out with these "treatments" that cost $5k a month, only kills 20% of the people who take it and only provide significant relief from MS for 15% of the people while ALL of the people taking it are made so sick they can't do anything or end up paralyzed. No thank you. I'll treat the symptoms and keep my immune system healthy. I kind of need that even if it is eating my brain.

Ditto times a million my friend. RA here - I've been on chemo, biologics, a combination at the same time...etc. etc. and have gotten so sick from side effects, lost my hair, left me weaker than I already was, ... (they totally wipe out the immune system) - a few years ago I basically said fark it, no more - I try to eat clean, treat the symptoms and during a debilitating flare up I'll *maybe* do a medrol dose pack or short term predisone burst and taper and it takes a lot for me to even do that.

I can't stand those big pharma television ads showing these shiny happy people, all shiny and happy because they asked their doctor about the latest "dammitall" and while the shiny happy people are dancing or prancing the voice over is saying "side effects include but are not limited to; flushing, blushing, running of the mouth, extreme shortness of pants, high stools, seat cramps, stinkfoot and severe borborygmies..." uhhh hahaha



*hugggs* Megan - you're awesome -

(I told my kids that if and when my brain goes there are just a few rules - never cut my hair, don't take out my piercings, let me vape, have access to the internet and a comfy chair in a corner somewhere and let me torture the nurses.... payback is a beeeech named Remie )

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

Nice Remie!!

And they have no idea what any of our stuff IS, they make wild assumptions then throw random assumption drugs at us and tell us we should be happy. No thank you! When my MS first hit no one thought of it being MS they just said it was Chronic Fatigue Syndrome because in the 80's no one thought MS hit anyone younger than 50 as that's when an x-ray can see the lesions. With MRI's with and without contrast they are finding that it can manifest in people as young as 6. Traditional medicine is a second beyond treating an illness with bleedings to fix it, most of the crap they come up for us are not far from this actually...and I've done Solu-Medrol, never again...nevernevernever, now THAT was hell!!!

And it did nothing for me...

 

[Kent Brooks]

Sooo i wake up today Monday 7/14/14 and first thing that pops into my head is... of course " i wonder if today will be the day mail call brings my purple packages.'' along with do i feel like making dragon,diamond, or inception coils in my free time today( these are my common day dreams, i may have a problem.)

Anyway everyone in my office Vaps. We have freed the bonds of analogs and know ride the vapor trail of freedom, but of course some ppl here that neither vap or smoke are questionable about ecigerettes. They never really come out and say it but there are little hints dropped. Case in point. i walk into my office and everyone is kinda grumbling, not the i hate you grumble but the i cant believe you the person that walked in before you left this BS. so they just point to my desk as they calmly go outside to Vap, i walk to my desk and here it is another 'hint'


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Side not: IDK if he thinks we are down here rubbing pure liquid nicotine into our skin like baby oil or we just mildly ......ed.i have no idea but the top three Safty keys on the right hand in bold left me with " you have to be kidding me and Poison Control will let anyone right a article.

1.Keep out of reach of children- Umm why would i keep anything harmful around my kids if they are not old enough to understand ( do not drink this)

2.Wear Rubber Gloves when handling liquid nicotine-- Not a bad idea if your handling a gallon of 100 pure nicotine but i dought 3 drops hitting your hand will send you into a chase the unicorn frenzy.

3.Do not store liquid nicotine where you store your eyesdrops- excuse my language but ARE YOU .......** KIDDING ME?
( At this point any rasonal thought in this entire article was now invalid. and my brain dieded a little inside.



OK RANT OVER. but as you can see, this had me "feeling some type of way" lol

Now off to stare at the mail clerks until mail truck comes

P.S. Please excuse any spelling and grammer errors

LMAO - I need to try using eliquid for eyedrops - sounds like a nice morning pick-me-up. *facepalm* This article is stupidity.