Yes, I was a nonsmoker

[2corbies]

Smokers are an easy target and are taxed and kicked to the curb without a thought.

*nods* so true. What's missing from a lot of the conversation about tobacco/nicotine is the perspectives of actual smokers. It's taken for granted that the only reason people smoke is that they're addicted to nicotine, and that's certainly a big part of it. (Likewise, who drinks a pot of decaf coffee every day? The caffeine is the point). But, the smokers I talk with-- lots of them *like* smoking. They enjoy it, and all the "well, you'd quit if you could," rhetoric is insulting and paternalistic.

So, options like vaping, that may provide the pleasure and the nicotine without the fatal extra chemicals, aren't even seen as worth pursuing. Because who cares what those poor deluded smokers think?

 

[patkin]

I do... I quite caffeine in all forms years ago for health reasons (raises blood sugar and blood pressure). I even buy decaffeinated cocoa powder for hot chocolate and make my own candy. So far, caffeine is one of the main stream's drugs of choice but the nut jobs will eventually go after it too. Hey, when ya can't get a liter of pop delivered with a family size pizza... well, is there any doubt someone else will be deciding what we can eat or drink?

Edit: I don't know "reply with quote" isn't working... the quote was clearly there. Anyway reply is to "who drinks a pot of decaff a day" can't see posters name on this page.

 

[StarSpun]

A very interesting post....I'm new to the forum and have been hesitating to introduce myself because I too, am a non-smoker who started vaping. Well, I guess you could say I wasn't a 100% non smoker....the more correct term would be 'social smoker' but it was usually only when I drank a certain amount of alcohol. I hated bumming cigs off friends/strangers, so I would often keep a pack of light menthols on me for the very occasion. When I was younger, I used to get a pack around exam time, and was able to quit right after and not touch cigs for a year. I never became addicted, I guess I was one of those lucky folks....I'm more addicted to my Nespresso machine;-)

Anyhoo, I HATE HATE HATE waking up the morning after drinking (I'm also lucky because I do not get hangovers!) and coughing....and the smell....ugh. I won't even mention the scar I have on my leg from accidently burning myself with one! Ha ha! It came to the point where I'd promise myself I would not have a cig during a night out....but it would eventually happen. This is what turned me onto vaping....I saw an ad for Blu, and thought, hmmmm....is this a good idea? I went on to getting V2cigs....Vapor Couture, etc, and now have moved on to Egos....just got an Ego Twist

I am not sure why I would smoke when drinking, but I'm thinking it was a combination between the actual smoking motion (like a few of you, I have maybe a slight oral fixation, and am also a nail biter!), plus the nicotine hit would kind of clear me up if I found I had a little but too much to drink. Even if I didn't, I suppose I enjoyed and appreciated the 'high' at the time.

Besides the pleasure of smoking e-cigs....the motion, the taste, and the 'go to', I've also found immense pleasure and excitment in educating and talking to folks (smokers and non smokers alike) who ask me why my cig is glowing blue (often with a crystal end!). I want so badly to help smokers find this alternative and switch over. So far in the last month of vaping, I have converted at least 10 people.

Totally worth it

Ohhh, I'm officially not a lurker anymore, hooray!

 

[YoTone]

Im not reading the whole thread but nicotine will help you concentrate better.
i had a friend who used to only smoke before tests.

 

[subversive]

I don't consider a social smoker to be the same as a never-smoker. I think a PV is good for someone who likes to puff on something once in a while as long as they don't start using nicotine more often or in higher amounts than they would with cigarettes. This is, of course, my own opinion.

 

[StarSpun]

I don't consider a social smoker to be the same as a never-smoker. I think a PV is good for someone who likes to puff on something once in a while as long as they don't start using nicotine more often or in higher amounts than they would with cigarettes. This is, of course, my own opinion.

I agree. Most of my juices are 0mg, with the acception of a few which are 4 or 6 and I only take those out when I'm drinking. If I were to vape those sober, I'd be an anxious mess! I am very sensitive to nicotine it seems, but I guess the alcohol counteracts it somehow. Go figure!

 

[Spirra]

Im not reading the whole thread but nicotine will help you concentrate better.
i had a friend who used to only smoke before tests.

I just read someplace that they are doing studies of how nicotine can help those with adhd (wish I knew the link). That in mind just because it helped your friend with focusing before a test does not mean it will do the same for everyone.

 

[bilbobaggins30]

We all fell into nicotine in different ways. Don't fret. I started with the stinkies, and then transistioned on. But we all start for some reason or another, I was surrounded by smokers, so I would smoke as a way to get out of work, to breathe fresh air, to see daylight, and to socialize.

 

[mirrorim]

*nods* so true. What's missing from a lot of the conversation about tobacco/nicotine is the perspectives of actual smokers. It's taken for granted that the only reason people smoke is that they're addicted to nicotine, and that's certainly a big part of it. (Likewise, who drinks a pot of decaf coffee every day? The caffeine is the point). But, the smokers I talk with-- lots of them *like* smoking. They enjoy it, and all the "well, you'd quit if you could," rhetoric is insulting and paternalistic.

So, options like vaping, that may provide the pleasure and the nicotine without the fatal extra chemicals, aren't even seen as worth pursuing. Because who cares what those poor deluded smokers think?

I had to quit smoking for health reasons, my cardiologist was pretty ...... last time I saw him, but really wanted to quit for a number of years anyway. Most of the draw was the addiction to nicotine. I did enjoy the social aspect a lot as well, ie. going out with a large chunk of the attendees of my band's gigs between bands. I liked the flavor and the smell of my Camel Lights. I realized a few years ago all of the automatic response smoking I did. A year ago I was able to cut down to 4-6 a day in less than a week by cutting out the cigarettes I smoked "for the hell of it". Before lunch, in between jobs at work, quick phone calls, more than one on the ride to and from work... I could go on forever.

Cold turkey doesn't work for me, I was 1-2 PAD for 10 years. I hate being a jerk for no reason. I tried that many times and never made it through 2 full days. Vaping has offered me a better option for nicotine delivery and I feel better every day. Have developed a distaste for cigarette smoke taste, but still enjoy the smell.

I was interested in vaping as soon as I was introduced to it, didn't try it until I made the investment in equipment and was able to drop tobacco immediately, and I've been happier every day. its paid for itself in 4 days, 20 days after I started.

As far as people who have never smoked getting into vaping, as long as its 0 nic I'm down with it. My bass player wanted to taste my vapes @ 24mg just to see what got me out of tobacco. He's probably going to vape soon just because he likes the flavor and activity of it. I hope he does, because I'm still chasing the social aspects I enjoyed so much.... I suppose.

 

[DC2]

You know, I think that's true. I've been thinking lately about the odd intersection of health and politics that is tobacco policy in the US, and it does seem very strange that we follow a harm reduction model for every substance *except* nicotine. Were I a conspiracy theorist, I might suggest that it has something to do with the fact that harm reduction works and, with rare exceptions, policies of total abstinence don't. Who benefits if people spend millions of dollars a year on cigarettes, and rounds and rounds of patches, gum, Chantix, Zyban, etc. . . Who benefits if people keep trying to quit, but never manage it?

You're not a conspiracy theorist, just someone who clearly sees exactly what is going on.
That is very impressive for someone who just got here.

 

[DC2]

Nobody needs to justify themselves for vaping, but WHO and the EU and the FDA and Canada and a whole bunch of other organizations want to take vaping away from us, giving "Non-smokers might start vaping" as their reason. So even if it's none of my business whether someone starts vaping or not, I'm SURE not going to get caught promoting it.

And if they could put together enough evidence that it was actually happening, they would be all over it like a swarm of bees.

So, OP and others: Welcome to the ECF! But don't tell anybody I said so!

So yeah, what she said.

 

[2corbies]

You're not a conspiracy theorist, just someone who clearly sees exactly what is going on.
That is very impressive for someone who just got here.

I may be new to vaping, but I've been observing public health policy long enough to be quite cynical about it!

 

[USinchains]

I can understand Berylanna's argument, we used to make it a lot. These are the same people who told the world we're vaping antifreeze. I can't assume "they" won't manipulate this phenomenon of non-smokers vaping into the claim that's it's 'just another addiction' to add to the table, of course a potentially harmful one as they see it. It only takes a few posts for ignorant bloggers to start spreading speculation and gossip.

At the same time, I know you can't halt the evolution of society, when a ball starts rolling you pretty much have to sit there and see what happens, people will do what they want if they're free to. There's the plus side, in my opinion, that the more vapers in existence helps to desensitize the public to stereotypes, that's already clear through some of the media during this whole boom. As long as we can all stay healthy we're just building our army.

 

[edwarral]

First of Welcome to the forums. Second, don't call your self an idiot for vaping. You can vape 0 nic juice to just enough the taste and experience of vaping. I hope you enjoy what your doing. It appears there allot of knowledgeable people here that can point you in the right direction to help you out.

 

[rand4ll]

I don't think you are an idiot for doing any activity you may find enjoyable. There are always much worse things you could choose to do instead.

Slightly off topic and I know this forum is international but does anyone have some links or quick info on what kind of regulations or cracking down 'the man' in the US is looking into doing on vaping? Both nicotine and non-nic juices alike? As someone just getting into this to quit smoking tobacco I would certainly hate to see it jerked away for no real benefit to mankind in general other than corporate greed and/or societal control.

 

[KraKsX]

thevaporroom.net
great juice, has 0 nic (option)

an ego, or vamo would be a good cheap device
carto tanks are good, for ease of use

 

[ShldBeStdy]

I am a former social smoker (have not had a cigarette in just over 5 years). I have been considering to start vaping. I plan on zero nic, since I was easily able to quit smoking cold turkey. I miss the "relaxation" I got from smoking. I always found it enjoyable, except for the day after. I have been doing some research and talking with friends for where to start. Glad to see there are other non-smokers.

 

[DC2]

Slightly off topic and I know this forum is international but does anyone have some links or quick info on what kind of regulations or cracking down 'the man' in the US is looking into doing on vaping? Both nicotine and non-nic juices alike? As someone just getting into this to quit smoking tobacco I would certainly hate to see it jerked away for no real benefit to mankind in general other than corporate greed and/or societal control.

There isn't really an "quick info" on this topic.
It is a long, complicated story, with a lot of history and a lot of questions that still remain.

But this link might help you get up to speed fairly quickly...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-cigs-other-unregulated-tobacco-products.html

And this very long thread can fill in any blanks that are left over...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-products-eliminate-many-most-companies.html

 

[sonya818]

As a new vaper, I find all the FDA banning talk very frightening. So much so, that I won't even read about it. Vaping is my lifeline after only 7 days. I took Chantix several years ago and the only thing I got in return was vivid dreams(big plus in my book) and a heart attack(not so much a plus). As a smoker(former), the whole heart attack/chantix link has made me a believer in vaping. I also think that vaping is a good alternative for many things that people with OCD and ADHD do to help with their daily lives. If nonsmokers are vaping(zero nicotine juices) to help them with other issues than nicotine addiction, more power to them.

 

[2corbies]

thevaporroom.net
great juice, has 0 nic (option)

an ego, or vamo would be a good cheap device
carto tanks are good, for ease of use

Thanks for the reccs! I'm having fun experimenting with juice options, though mostly through the brick-and-moarter shops in the area. And, if and when the time comes to upgrade, I'm thinking of an ego system.