(Yet Another) Introduction and Questions

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dwizar

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Hello folks,

I'm a new vaper and I've got much to learn from veterans, so here's my introduction and questions.

Introduction:
I'm 25 and I've smoked cigarettes for the last decade or so. I didn't really have the intention to quit but a little over two(2) weeks ago, a friend posted a message on facebook and that attracted about a dozen message of ex-smokers who bragged the e-cigarette. It got me thinking and I decided to try and break both addictions at once. I went to the local store the very next day and bought the proposed starter kit: a V3 eGo Spinner 650mAh with 12mg liquids, then I left for camping with it and a few packs of smokes, just in case.

It went well and I never really had a craving for real cigarettes since then, the e-cigarette seems to satisfy me alright, so I set myself the additionnal goal to reduce the nicotin level as aggressively as I could handle it - feeling it was the last truely unhealthy remnant from the analog days. After about a week, I traded my 12mg for 9mg and didn't really notice a difference. Around the same time, I started having cold-like symptoms, runny nose and phlegm in the throat, especially early at work.

A few days ago, I traded my 9mg liquid for nicotin-free one. The throat hit is non-existent and it seems like I really don't mind - I might actually prefer to just inhale and exhale more vapor. I'm on the path to become a cloud-chaser but I'm neither knowledgeable nor foolish enough to start tinkering or disabling security features.

Question 1:
I've found mentions of my cold-like symptoms on ex-smoker forums as tar and crap leaving the lungs - but also on vaper forums as a possible reaction to PG. I personally wonder if it might be the occasional pipe that hit my throat hard or just that I'm a little sick from the cold camping nights. What do you think it is? What do you think I should do about it?

Question 2:
How bad is nicotin itself when vaped and not smoked? I've actively put effort toward removing it entirely and while I seem fine without it in most cases, I can only assume that after a night drinking at the bar, I will miss a little throat hit. At the same time, I feel like vapers really aren't putting any effort to reduce their nicotin intake: I only see very few mentions of anything lower than 15mg anywhere, really - and I've never even tasted that strong. So... how bad is a little nicotin intake now and then, from an ex-smoker perspective?

Question 3:
Finally, I like my V3 eGo Spinner but it feels rather entry-level. I'm looking to upgrade to a device that will safely and reliably provide more flavor and more vapor (in that order). I also favor the pen-design as it avoids attraction but I might consider any great product. I've got some budget for it as my new habits actually saves me a lot of money but I'm a little overwhelmed by all the information and technical terms on the forum so I thought I'd ask for help making sense of it all. I don't plan to fool around: I'd like to skip the cheaper products and get straight into quality setups. I'm aiming around the 200$ mark but I might shell out more for the ultimate perfect kit. From what I could gather on the forum, I'm mostly hesitant between two(2) initial order but I will consider anything you propose:

I consider using the MVP2 at home and get the V3 for public places - where I'd rather avoid attraction.
  • Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 + Kanger Aerotank Mega + Any recommended accessory?
  • Innokin iTaste VV (V3) + Any recommended accessory?

Or just simply go ProVari - not everyone agrees on the price, but everyone agrees on the exceptional quality.
  • ProVari Starter Kit with Tank V2.5 + Any recommended accessory?

Sorry for the wall-of-text and thank you to anyone who bothers reading it and throw me a few answers, hints or tips!
 
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question 1:
i've found mentions of my cold-like symptoms on ex-smoker forums as tar and crap leaving the lungs - but also on vaper forums as a possible reaction to pg. I personally wonder if it might be the occasional pipe that hit my throat hard or just that i'm a little sick from the cold camping nights. What do you think it is? What do you think i should do about it?
Not sure what this is. It could be from any one or a combination of the factors that you described. I've been vaping for just over two years, and just in the last couple of months I've had a slight runny nose. I recently have dropped from 12 mg to either 0 or 6 mg. Coincidence?

question 2:
how bad is nicotin itself when vaped and not smoked? I've actively put effort toward removing it entirely and while i seem fine without it in most cases, i can only assume that after a night drinking at the bar, i will miss a little throat hit. At the same time, i feel like vapers really aren't putting any effort to reduce their nicotin intake: I only see very few mentions of anything lower than 15mg anywhere, really - and i've never even tasted that strong. So... How bad is a little nicotin intake now and then, from an ex-smoker perspective?
There have been very few studies on just nicotine alone; most long-term studies are from cigarette smoking and as we know its mostly the tars, additional chemicals, and smoke itself which causes the bad health issues.

Nicotine is classified as both a sedative and stimulent in the effects it has. Often compared to the stimulent effects of caffeine. Like caffeine, nicotine is a vasoconstrictor on blood vessels, so if you have hypertension or coronary heart disease, nicotine is not a good thing. Some innitial studies seem to show a benefit of nicotine in delaying the effects of Alzheimer's, and self-treatment of ADHD and Crohn's disease..

question 3:
finally, i like my v3 ego spinner but it feels rather entry-level. I'm looking to upgrade to a device that will safely and reliably provide more flavor and more vapor (in that order). I also favor the pen-design as it avoids attraction but i might consider any great product. I've got some budget for it as my new habits actually saves me a ....load of money [size=1[/size] but i'm a little overwhelmed by all the information and technical terms on the forum so i thought i'd ask for help making sense of it all. I don't plan to fool around: I'd like to skip the cheaper products and get straight into quality setups. I'm aiming around the 200$ mark but i might shell out more for the ultimate perfect kit. From what i could gather on the forum, i'm mostly hesitant between two(2) initial order but i will consider anything you propose:

I consider using the mvp2 at home and get the v3 for public places - where i'd rather avoid attraction.
  • innokin itaste mvp v2.0 + kanger aerotank mega + any recommended accessory?
  • innokin itaste vv (v3) + any recommended accessory?

or just simply go provari - not everyone agrees on the price, but everyone agrees on the exceptional quality.
  • provari starter kit with tank v2.5 + any recommended accessory?
  • I have both the MVP and three Provari's. I highly recommend either of them. Both have their pro's and cons. Provari's are my daily device both at home and out of the house, the MVP is merely a backup. The Provari's fit my expectations perfectly and are totally worth the money, IMHO. My favorite combo is a Kayfun Lite Plus on a Provari (flavor machine), but cartotanks work great on a Provari, too. I'm personally not a fan of clearomizers (muted flavors and inconsistancy issues).

    Why Provari?

    what-makes-kayfun-so-great?

    provari_white.jpgmini_kayfun.jpgIBTanked_Std_22mm_Tank.jpgMini Provari v2.jpg
 
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nicotine is a stimulant. other than its habit forming traits, is no more harmful than say caffeine. It's not great stuff, but it's not the part of cigs that kill.

I've seen references to both the PG and VG intolerance. change your blend and find out. I personally had my lung purge about 9 weeks into going vape only. no issues of any kind since then. i tend towards 50/50 or leaning towards higher VG

My first legit hardware was the MVP 2. I chucked the innokin tank within a week and went with kanger protanks. I now rebuild the coils, so it's really cheap for me. I've since added a kayfun clone and helio clone, but I do still use the protanks, as they are easier to fill, and I can build the coils ahead of time and have backup coils already ready.

we were all new once
 
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