YIKES !!!

[muth]

I made a big boo boo and not sure how to fix it. I would appreciate any help with the math on this one.....

I was making 300 mls of a 25/75 blend. When it came time to add the VG I picked up the PG bottle instead. Now I have 300 mls of PG (including the flavors, of course). I was thinking I could add VG and maybe end up with a 50/50 blend? Idk, I'm so panicked I can't think straight.

I'll provide any helpful info that's needed. Just ask. Thx

 

[Shadav]

I hate when that happens...

I would say maybe make another 300ml with just vg and mix the two, should roughly be 50/50

 

[muth]

I hate when that happens...

I would say maybe make another 300ml with just vg and mix the two, should roughly be 50/50

So mix the same percentage of flavors in 300ml of VG and add the two for a whopping 600ml of 50/50? Thank you. That sounds like a solution. I don't use 50/50 usually but maybe I could bump up the flavor and add even more VG? Does that make sense. Really appreciate the help, btw.

 

[muth]

I hate when that happens...

Oh, so it's happened to you, too? I'm not alone?

 

[muth]

@Shadav A mixer from ELR suggested I break it down into 60ml bottles and start adding vg. Very similar to your idea. Only in smaller bites, lol. Does that give you any other ideas?

 

[TrollDragon]

If it's 25PG/75VG that you made 100% PG you will have to add 900mls of VG (with flavor and nic) to get that 300 back to a 25PG/75VG.

If it's 25VG/75PG then you only need to add 100mls of VG (with flavor and nic).

You can chunk it up into smaller batches and convert them as well.
I use this combining calc for changing ratio or nic adjustments.
E-Liquid Combining Calculator

 

[muth]

If it's 25PG/75VG that you made 100% PG you will have to add 900mls of VG (with flavor and nic) to get that 300 back to a 25PG/75VG.

If it's 25VG/75PG then you only need to add 100mls of VG (with flavor and nic).

You can chunk it up into smaller batches and convert them as well.
I use this combining calc for changing ratio or nic adjustments.
E-Liquid Combining Calculator

To be clear, it's 75VG. How do I figure the flavor percentages? Just figure the amount of flavor I would need for 900mls of juice? Funny how I started out making 300mls of juice and ended up with 1,200mls!

 

[IDJoel]

@Shadav A mixer from ELR suggested I break it down into 60ml bottles and start adding vg. Very similar to your idea. Only in smaller bites, lol. Does that give you any other ideas?

That was my train of thought. If you know you will vape all of it; you could mix 900mL of VG only... plus the required flavors, and nicotine, for that amount.... and mix it together for your intended 25PG/75VG recipe. Of course, this will result in 1.2 liters of e-liquid.

If that seems dubious; then you can still mix smaller batches of the 100% VG (along with nic and flavoring), and just add 3 parts VG mix, to 1 part PG mix (e.g. 75mL VG, added to 25mL PG) until you decide you've had enough. Dump the rest, and write it off to a learning experience.

How do I figure the flavor percentages? Just figure the amount of flavor I would need for 900mls of juice?

Yes; flavor and nicotine (if used) would be figured normally for the batch size intended.

 

[muth]

@TrollDragon I'll need to tackle this tomorrow but I may need your help again. I'm not sure I understand the combining calculator.

 

[muth]

That was my train of thought. If you know you will vape all of it; you could mix 900mL of VG only... plus the required flavors, and nicotine, for that amount.... and mix it together for your intended 25PG/75VG recipe. Of course, this will result in 1.2 liters of e-liquid.

If that seems dubious; then you can still mix smaller batches of the 100% VG (along with nic and flavoring), and just add 3 parts VG mix, to 1 part PG mix (e.g. 75mL VG, added to 25mL PG) until you decide you've had enough. Dump the rest, and write it off to a learning experience.

Yes; flavor and nicotine (if used) would be figured normally for the batch size intended.

Thank you, Joel. Lol, it better be a good batch after all this. Yes, that's a lotta juice but I can also frig it.

 

[muth]

I might need to buy more flavor! Wow, thx everyone

 

[IDJoel]

I'm not sure I understand the combining calculator.

It's used like this:

1. enter a name for first (PG) mixture
2. enter the amount of PG mixture (mL) you want to adjust
3. enter the PG e-liquid's nic strength (mg/mL)
4. enter the PG percentage of the PG mix

#5 through #8, are the same thing, except with the values appropriate for your all-VG mixture.
NOTE: in my example, the PG/VG ratio (#8) is reflecting a 5% PG flavoring. This can be altered according to actual total flavor percentage used.

Once #1-8 are all filled out; click on the "agree to terms of use" box (not shown in screen shot; but will be located immediately to the left of the "Calculate" button), and click on "Calculate."

The results will appear below.

 

[mrphilip]

@TrollDragon I'll need to tackle this tomorrow but I may need your help again. I'm not sure I understand the combining calculator.

@muth The 300ml you have already made cost no more than $5 by my estimate (100 ML usually costs me about $1.75, with flavorings and the bottle making up the bulk). PG & VG cost under $10 a gallon. Is it worth the headache to do these calculations and make an additional 900mls? How much do you vape a week?

I try not to make more than 120 ML of any one recipe on a given day. Flavors might fade, the recipe might not come out as expected... small batches of 30 or 60 ML are a great way to do DIY allowing for variety and easy to store grab n go sized bottles. You could scrap this bottle and start over... its a learning lesson and the second go round will help remind for future batches.

If you are ready to dive deeper, here is my complicated suggestion. It might be hard to follow immediately but it really is as easy as trading Marvin Gardens and Baltic plus 2 Railroads for Boardwalk or Park Place. Also, search youtube for FRESH03 or New Amsterdam Vapes as well ad DIYorDIE videos. Frsh offered over a year of how to vids that take you through the creation process.

Look at e-liquidrecipes.com. There you will find a plethora of choices to make and information on the flavors you own, or might buy in the future. Search recipes by typing your favorite branded vapes for clone creations. Many exist. Or search by your flavor stash to see what you can make. There calculator definitely will help you fix the batch on hand if you decide to do that. YES, break it into a few smaller bottles. Add the vg needed. What you have made could be considered a 'ONE SHOT' which is something premixed that is later aded to a recipe. Hold the 300 ml as is and used as the starter for new batches. You will have to add more flavorings when you do that for if you begin with 30% of a one shot, that will only offer 30% of the original flavors used. So you need to add 70% more of the initial flavor %'s (if you added 5 Sweet Strawberry, the one shot would only account for 1.5% of Sweet Strawberry and that means you need to another 3.5% to the new batch... I'm just winging my math, the calculator will solve it all.

Create a recipe on elr using the numbers from this first go. Save that and next hit options on upper right of recipe page to see "Create One-shot". Add the One-shot to your flavor stash as a single flavor. Next create a new recipe with the correct numbers of your starting point recipe. Add the one shot as an additional flavor to that recipe. By doing this you will find that elr calculates exactly how much more of each flavor you need.

 

[Shadav]

hahaha na you're not the only one...I did it just last week but I do 10 - 20mls at a time so not that big of a deal for me...I just added another 10ml to it with flavoring and vg no pg....it's a bit harsher than I like but it's vapeable...

 

[zoiDman]

So mix the same percentage of flavors in 300ml of VG and add the two for a whopping 600ml of 50/50? Thank you. That sounds like a solution. I don't use 50/50 usually but maybe I could bump up the flavor and add even more VG? Does that make sense. Really appreciate the help, btw.

Just Me...

But I Wouldn't try to save the entire 300ml's that got messed up in One Fell Swoop.

Because if that Fails, you will need to Fix an even Bigger Problem. Or have an even Bigger amount of Stuff that needs to be Poured down the Drain.

I would try doing a Test batch of 50 or 60ml and see if that works.

 

[Letitia]

Personally I would just make 30ml of the same recipe max vg with nic. Then would just mix the vg blend with 10ml of the pg blend and if it works just keep the pg blend refrigerated and use as needed.

 

[gpjoe]

Personally I would just make 30ml of the same recipe max vg with nic. Then would just mix the vg blend with 10ml of the pg blend and if it works just keep the pg blend refrigerated and use as needed.

This would be the safest and most cost effective method, at least for me. It would take me many months to vape a liter of one flavor of juice. Using Letitia's method of "fixing" it as needed would save you from throwing away a larger boo-boo if you tire of the flavor or if the flavor changes over time.

 

[Letitia]

This would be the safest and most cost effective method, at least for me. It would take me many months to vape a liter of one flavor of juice. Using Letitia's method of "fixing" it as needed would save you from throwing away a larger boo-boo if you tire of the flavor or if the flavor changes over time.

Bonus is it eliminates the math!

 

[charlie1465]

I agree...I would either use the suggestion that Letitia made or (probably more likely) throw it away....

It's not an expensive mistake

 

[muth]

Thanks everyone. You've all been so helpful. As my brain starts coming out of shock mode I'm able to think a little better. My thought this morning was to start with a small batch (30ml). @Letitia you're right. If it works out I can keep the rest refrigerated and even do other things with it later. It's a custard juice, so I can add a different flavor here and there to give it some variety. If I did the math correctly, by the time I'm finished with the original "disaster" I would have made a total of about 1200 mls. I used the recipe calculator at ELR and changed the numbers on the original recipe. Lol, I really stepped in it this time!