You scaring me!

[wheelie]

Got my Avenger Telescopic Mechanical mod. running a Iclear30S with a Trustfire 18650 3.7 Li-ion battery. For all the scare mongers. What dagers do I face. All I hear is about things blowup ect. If I run it the way it is do I face danger?

 

[alkaiser]

throw that battery away and get a quality one (sony vtc4). don't trust anything with fire at the end of it.

 

[daleron]

Probably, you should at least make sure you have a protected battery
Or buy a fuse.

 

[Fearalis]

What dagers do I face.

Well, the sharp pieces of metal flying could be counter as daggers.


lol.


In all honesty, get a good reliable battery in which people around here have found tried and true, I.E. AW's and sonys

 

[VapieDan]

Got my Avenger Telescopic Mechanical Mod. running a Iclear30S with a Trustfire 18650 3.7 Li-ion battery. For all the scare mongers. What dagers do I face. All I hear is about things blowup ect. If I run it the way it is do I face danger?

Here is a very complete understanding of batteries in 2 parts. Worth reading for safety with a mechanical mod.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eeper-understanding-mod-batteries-part-i.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eper-understanding-mod-batteries-part-ii.html

 

[edyle]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected-icr.html

 

[MorpheusPA]

Most of us are not fans of --fire (anything with fire on the end of it) batteries. Efest is about the lowest quality I'd use, and I'd really rather see you use an AW. That's just sensible.

I'd strongly recommend some sort of fuse just to be really safe.

Other than that, enjoy your vape.

 

[LucentShadow]

Got my Avenger Telescopic Mechanical Mod. running a Iclear30S with a Trustfire 18650 3.7 Li-ion battery. For all the scare mongers. What dagers do I face. All I hear is about things blowup ect. If I run it the way it is do I face danger?

So, only 'scare mongers' should answer? That's not a good way to ask a serious question.

That's not my thing, but I'll offer that not enough information was given in your post to make much of an assessment, which indicates to me that you probably face an increased risk of incident.

Good luck.

 

[Funk Dracula]

Your fine.

I would strongly suggest picking up some IMR safe chemistry or Hybrid batteries.

In the event your mod switch somehow gets pressed and continuously fires or shorts (in your pocket, backpack, fall asleep with it etc) that ICR battery will vent.

If the same thing happens with a safe chemistry battery it will get too hot to pick up or touch, but no venting or "boom." A high drain/safe chemistry battery provides a level of protection the mechanical cannot.

If your planning on rebuilding or sub-ohming (which it looks like you are not interested in at all) there are other things to consider.

But for now, running clearomizers and the such, this is a good battery with longer run-times and safer chemistry I'd suggest:

New NCR18650PF High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery button top by Orbtronic

 

[Sirius]

I've been running mechanicals with no fuse, no kick, and I only use Sonys, AWs, and Efest 18650 batteries with no complications. Use battery safety tips here and you will have no problems:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/kiwivap/3243-mod-battery-safety.html

 

[alkaiser]

Probably, you should at least make sure you have a protected battery
Or buy a fuse.

it's actually better to use an unprotected high amp IMR battery than protected batteries.

 

[edyle]

it's actually better to use an unprotected high amp IMR battery than protected batteries.

To the OP;

That could sound kind of confusing.

It is better to use a safe chemistry battery.

Unsafe chemistry batteries and manufactured with protection circuitry added on, and marketed as 'protected' batteries.

Hope that clarifies.

 

[wheelie]

Said it was a protected battery where I bought it. That's what I don't get. Seems some places say they are protected and others say not protected. Any batteries actually say it on the battery?

 

[edyle]

Said it was a protected battery where I bought it. That's what I don't get. Seems some places say they are protected and others say not protected. Any batteries actually say it on the battery?

From baditude's blog:

Baditude
(9) Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?
Rating: 15 votes, 5.00 average.
22 Comments
by
Baditude
, 08-27-2013 at 09:20 AM (20164 Views)

As mod users, we depend heavily upon batteries. To assist novices to choose which battery to use in their mod I have written this guide. Our choices are IMR, protected ICR Li-Ion, and a new class of Hybrid batteries.

High quality IMRs are currently recommended in place of Protected Li Ion for all applications. (reference - Rechargeable Batteries)

IMR (Li Mn) batteries are the safest batteries available to us for vaping. They use safer chemistry, so they don't require protective circuits like ICRs do. They have higher tolerence to stress, and although they may vent during failure it is less likely to be as dramatic as a ICR. Should protective circuits fail in ICRs they can vent violently in flames.


High Quality, Brand Name Batteries. Batteries are not created equal. Mod battery experts recommend the following brand name IMR and hybrid batteries:


AW IMR
18650 2000mah 10Amp CDR
18650 1600mah 24A
18490 (1100mah) 16.5A
18350 ​(700mah) 6A

MNKE IMR
18650 1500mah ​20A

Panasonic ​or Orbtronic hybrid
CGR18650CH (IMR/hybrid) 2250mAh 10A
NCR18650PF (LiNiCOMnO2) INR/ICR/IMR Hybrid 2900mAh 10A
NCR18650PD (LiNiCoAl) 2900mAh 10A
Orbtronic 18650 SX22 (hybrid) 2000mAh 22A
Orbtronic 18650 SX30 (hybrid) 2100mAh ​30A

Sanyo
UR18650EX 2000mAh 20A

Samsung hybrid (LiNiCoMnP)
INR18650-22P 2200mAh 10A
INR18650-20R 2000mah 22A

Sony hybrid
us18650v3 IMR 2250mAh 10A
us18650vct3 1600mAh 30A
us18650vtc4 2100 mAh 30A

EH IMR
18650 2000 mAh 16A
18650 1500 mAh 22A
18500 1100 mAh 8.8A
18350 800 mAh 6.4A

Efest IMR
18650 (IMR/hybrid) 2250mAh 10A
18650 2000mAh 10A
18650 1600mAh 30A
18490 1100mah 8.8A
18350 800mah 6.4A

If you do sub-ohm coils, you must use a battery which has over 10 amps CDR.

Lower Quality Brand-Name Batteries. Trustfire, Ultrafire, and Surefire are a second-tier name brand battery in terms of quality and safety. Not recommended.




​Generic Batteries. ​Not recommended. Seen at Amazon & EBay at cheap prices or thrown in for free in a kit when you purchase a mod made in China. These are unknown batteries of unknown quality by an unknown manufacturer, and not worth the risk using in your mod. Never assume because they were included with your mod that they are safe or the correct battery to use.



Be wary when shopping for batteries online. Unprotected ICR batteries should NEVER be used in a mod. I recommend buying only the batteries from the list above, paying attention to model numbers.



If uncertain about the quality or type of a battery, don't buy or use it. Do not use over-the-counter batteries like those from Radio Shack, etc. Buy only from trusted e-cig vendors. Many use RTD Vapor AW Batteries. Use the type of battery that your mod calls for. For example, Provape recommends using only AW IMR button top batteries in the Provari; using magnets on flat top batteries will void the warranty because this is an unsafe battery practice.



Battery Chargers. Get the best charger that you can reasonably afford. Statistically most battery incidents occur during the charging phase on a charger. Pila, Xtar, and Nitecore Intellicharger ​are the highest recommended brands.



Always use safe battery practices and common sense with all batteries. Even the safest battery available to us can fail. IMR battery failure From what I've read, most battery failures are the result of rapid discharge, either from the fire button inadvertantly being pushed for too long, or the battery being shorted from metal objects (keys, change, etc) completing the circuit when carrying a battery in a pocket or purse. Use Battery Cases. Do not stack batteries.



If you are using sub-ohm coils in an RBA/RDA, it is extremely important to use the highest quality IMR battery. Coils < 0.8 ohm require an IMR battery that has a maximum continuous discharge rate over 10 amps​. This is extremely critical. OHM'S LAW CALCULATOR



PROTECTED or IMR BATTERY: ​Which is best for your application?

IMR Li Mn. Lithium manganese class batteries. Also called "high drain", "safe chemistry", "unprotected".


These are used in regulated mods that use buck boost circuitry to achieve variable voltage-wattage, but they are now also recommended for single voltage mechanical mods as a safer alternative to protected Li Ion batteries. Why High Drain Batteries?


​

This class will have less capacity in mAh rating compared to protected batteries, but are superior when maximum load current is required, such as in regulated mods, mechanical mods using a Kick, or using an RBA.


​Hybrid batteries.

New mixed chemistry batteries that are both safer chemistry/high drain and extended capacity in one.



​A good choice for applications that demand both maximum load current and longer battery time. Can be used for either mechanical or regulated mods.


Protected ICR Li Ion. Lithium ion class batteries, also called "protected batteries".


These batteries use a built-in protective circuit because they contain volatile chemistry that can become unstable quickly when they are severely stressed. Circuit failure can lead to battery failure, venting violently with flame in an event called thermal runaway. These batteries have a higher capacity (mAh rating) than IMR batteries and have been used in single voltage applications in a mechanical mod when long battery time was the primary objective. Not recommended for regulated mods, RBAs, or use in a mechanical using a Kick.



Vape Safe Mod Fuse



Resources:

Mods, Batteries, & Safer Vaping

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

Protected batteries vs IMR - safety

What does IMR mean

Sub-Ohm Vaping: Discussion, Safety, Battery Info, Warnings

Battery Data | Deus Ex Vaporis

What does a battery's C Rating mean?

Battery Specifications and Online Calculators

 

[wheelie]

From baditude's blog:

Thanks copy and pasted for reference.