Your Mod vs The Screwdriver: Question

[wv2win]

This questions may have been answered and I just missed it. For those of you who use (you did not have to have made the mod) a modified E-Vaporizer and have also used a Screwdriver, I would like to see a comparison, such as Madogs' mod to the screwdriver. Specifically how does the the mod you use compare to the screwdriver in "throat hit", battery life, easy of use, reliability and time to re-charge the battery. Use a scale of 1-10 or just make comments.

PS: I may also post this in the general discussion section.

 

[BJ43]

This questions may have been answered and I just missed it. For those of you who use (you did not have to have made the mod) a modified E-Vaporizer and have also used a Screwdriver, I would like to see a comparison, such as Madogs' mod to the screwdriver. Specifically how does the the mod you use compare to the screwdriver in "throat hit", battery life, easy of use, reliability and time to re-charge the battery. Use a scale of 1-10 or just make comments.

PS: I may also post this in the general discussion section.

IMO there is nothing to compare, if we are all using a 901 atomizor the only difference is the battery. The SD is great and I compliment Trog on his quality but the comparisons you ask for are not valid. The size and voltage of the battery qives you the parameters you want to compare and that is up to the modder. More time larger battery, more throat hit higher voltage. Now if you want to compare style, looks, ease of use, those are in the eyes of the beholder. I don't have a SD but i like its looks and as a mechanical engineer I think its name is great.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

IMO there is nothing to compare, if we are all using a 901 atomizor the only difference is the battery. The SD is great and I compliment Trog on his quality but the comparisons you ask for are not valid. The size and voltage of the battery qives you the parameters you want to compare and that is up to the modder. More time larger battery, more throat hit higher voltage. Now if you want to compare style, looks, ease of use, those are in the eyes of the beholder. I don't have a SD but i like its looks and as a mechanical engineer I think its name is great.

Trog did choose a nice $16.00 flashlight to make his Mod with--what you are paying for is is time, knowldge, use of tools, and experince, a warranty. IMO--it is worth the money if you can not do it yourself. Here is some photo for those Members that have not scene a "pre-modification" of this flashlight MOD by Trog----Sun

 

[ApOsTle51]

don't forget your also paying for 2 atomizers , e-liquid , 2 batteries and a charger , full product support and servicing options.
The SD used single cell 3.7volt battery and the maddog i believe uses 6 or so volts. Vapour production , throat hit , charging times and atomizer lifespan will differ greatly just on the voltage like BJ43 says ..

 

[wv2win]

Thanks for the responses. I'm just trying to decide if I want to learn to solder and make a mod. If the end result is as good as the SD or better, it would be worth it. If I make something that breaks every other week and is very inconsistent, then it isn't worth it. I'm not a natural "tinkerer" like many of you are but I feel confident that I could make a mod. I'm just trying to establish a "reference point" to see if my probable frustrated efforts will be worth it.

 

[D_Struct]

I don't have a SD, but, I can say that I love my Detonator (Magnum mod).

It pumps out tons of vapor (almost too much for me, at times), has incredible battery life, and little to no maintenance to speak of.

I think it really depends on what your tastes really are.

My mod is really big when compared to the SD. It's clunkier and a pain to use in public, but I didn't really need it to be used in public. I've got my other kits for that.

Better or worse, if it works for you, then that's all that matters in the end.

I actually had a blast making mine. I am planning to do another one, but with the tire valve connector, this time.

 

[nicowolf]

Thanks for the responses. I'm just trying to decide if I want to learn to solder and make a mod. If the end result is as good as the SD or better, it would be worth it. If I make something that breaks every other week and is very inconsistent, then it isn't worth it. I'm not a natural "tinkerer" like many of you are but I feel confident that I could make a mod. I'm just trying to establish a "reference point" to see if my probable frustrated efforts will be worth it.

Your probable frustrated efforts will definitely be worth it. When you make it yourself, you get to control everything from the beginning, you know everything there is to know about it including how to fix whatever ail may develop, and you get the pride and self-confidence that can only come from succeeding at a challenge. When you buy someone else's work, you get a product that they have chosen the specifications for, another person to deal with, and absences while repairs are being made. I, for one, enjoy planning it in my head, choosing colors, choosing the housing for the mod, choosing the specifications I want, knowing exactly how it is put together (no fear of taking it apart and not knowing how to reassemble it), knowing that I have the skills to rebuild it and to fix it. For me, that is priceless.

People who buy their mods (or Trog's SD) have a different way of looking at it that is neither better nor worse than mine, just different. I don't pretend to read their minds, but figure they look at it the same way I look at my TV. I have neither the time nor the inclination to learn all I need to know to make that thing work, or to keep it working. I want to just push a button and have it work, tinkering with it would be too much hassle and time, and the thought of messing it up is too much to bear, so I leave that to the experts at Sanyo.

 

[breakfastchef]

I will qualify my remarks by saying I do not have an SD, but did build a maddog Magnum for a penstyle atomizer. The average pen-style battery puts out around 4 volts. My USB pass-through puts out around 5 volts. My Magnum mod puts out around 6+ volts. The Magnum is the clear champion of throat hit and vapor production. This is of interest to me since I feel like I am toking on a light or ultra-light analog when using a battery or a pass-through with an in-line battery with my atomizers.

Though I risk frying atomizers prematurely using a Magnum-type mod, I feel it is worth it for my vaping experience. The modded device is closer to the feel of smoking an analog. I am getting decent throat hit with 18mg liquids, something I could not get with a standard pen-style.

 

[opusMorian]

Thanks for the responses. I'm just trying to decide if I want to learn to solder and make a mod. If the end result is as good as the SD or better, it would be worth it. If I make something that breaks every other week and is very inconsistent, then it isn't worth it. I'm not a natural "tinkerer" like many of you are but I feel confident that I could make a mod. I'm just trying to establish a "reference point" to see if my probable frustrated efforts will be worth it.

Wait another week or so (waiting for parts), I am putting up the screwdriver clone DIY with parts list. It won't have the custom fabricated aluminum top, but will cost you around $35 bucks+some soldering skills to build. I am also doing some cheaper mod for around $20 later on (again, waiting for parts).

Just a question, isn't the screwdriver a mod also? Since it used an existing cr123a flashlight as battery holder? Just thought I ask since everyone makes it sound like its fabricated out of a single block of aluminum.

 

[wv2win]

Wait another week or so (waiting for parts), I am putting up the screwdriver clone DIY with parts list. It won't have the custom fabricated aluminum top, but will cost you around $35 bucks+some soldering skills to build. I am also doing some cheaper mod for around $20 later on (again, waiting for parts).

Just a question, isn't the screwdriver a mod also? Since it used an existing cr123a flashlight as battery holder? Just thought I ask since everyone makes it sound like its fabricated out of a single block of aluminum.

The SD is a mod but not one done in the garage from what I've been told.

So you are going to provide a DIY Kit with parts and detailed instructions?
If that is the case, PM me when you are ready so I can consider that option. Thanks

 

[opusMorian]

The SD is a mod but not one done in the garage from what I've been told.

So you are going to provide a DIY Kit with parts and detailed instructions?
If that is the case, PM me when you are ready so I can consider that option. Thanks

Yeah someone told me that too, so I made a prototype on my work desk in my office . DIY kit... I was thinking about that. But since these parts can be obtained from radio shack and home depot, I didn't see the point. Hopefully members here can help each other and get the parts if they are unable to get them. From what I seen so far, most people here are pretty friendly and helpful.

 

[Laredo7mm]

There is a thread on this board on how to turn one of the Romisen flashlights into an SD clone. Here it is (if I can post links). If not, do a search for Romisen.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/10458-my-romisen-cree-rc-a8-mod.html


P.S. You will have to wait until next week for my latest mod, and maybe the first one I show here. But it will run on a 3.7v 18650 (they last forever but kind of big), but puts out a higher voltage through boost converter.

 

[smokindeuce]

Mods aren't that difficult to build for those who have the time, tools, inclination and skills.

So what you're doing is providing the individual parts for the Screwdriver from Dealextreme but in an unfinished state?

Surely this is the same as someone ordering the individual parts from Dealextreme and working it out for themselves.... if they've got the time, inclination, tools they'll do that anyway... if not they'll go to Trog.

You could always try something a little less imaginative...

 

[Sun Vaporer]

For those Members who did not see this--these are the up close photos of showing Bastage's Screwdriver with a side button and a part list--very good. ----Sun

See E-CigReview.com: Forum - View topic - Sneak Peek at home made "Screwdriver"

 

[wv2win]

For those Members who did not see this--these are the up close photos of showing Bastage's Screwdriver with a side button and a part list--very good. ----Sun

See E-CigReview.com: Forum - View topic - Sneak Peek at home made "Screwdriver"

Thanks, Sun, I like the side button concept. More natural. Sun, you need to check my last reply to you in the e-vaporizer organizer thread. You are missing out on a new product for your collection.

 

[THICKFOG]

All I can say is, once you start using mods with 4.5 volts and greater, any less is disappointing. But that's my opinion. 5 volts and up are best.

 

[parapo]

All I can say is, once you start using mods with 4.5 volts and greater, any less is disappointing. But that's my opinion. 5 volts and up are best.

i have to agree on this one.

i vape all kind of devices 901's at work,
and home a s/d clone and a passthrough with a usb 2200mah lithum pack.(5V 1A) the passthough is the best of all.

 

[breakfastchef]

All I can say is, once you start using mods with 4.5 volts and greater, any less is disappointing. But that's my opinion. 5 volts and up are best.

Though I have weighed in on this thread earlier, I have to agee with THICKFOG'S comment. Once you experience +5 volts on an atomizer, you will become a power freak in an instant. You will be quickly hooked on decent throat hit and vapor volume. I am not one to be on the cutting edge of progress, but 6+ volts over an atomizer is way cool and most satisfying.

 

[Laredo7mm]

I also agree. My main "rig" is a plug in adapter putting out 4.6V and 1600ma. Much better than running off of a 3.7 battery. That is why my next mod is going to have a step up converter to turn that 2.7 - 4.2 volts from the battery into 5.5 volts.

 

[kinabaloo]

Laredo7mm - I suspect this will not work as expected; you can increase the voltage but at the expense of available current, as the power source is a battery. I think it will reduce the power available (IxIxR). You need more cells or perhaps 1/2 size cells.