your smoking tech may be not giving you best Nicotine absorption

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webbb82

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here is a interesting article on how to get better hits and more nicotine into your veins
How Do You Inhale an Electronic Cigarette | METRO E-Cigs

Do not draw the vapor directly into your lungs as you would a cigarette. Instead, draw it into your mouth (use your cheeks as a vacuum) and then inhale into your lungs if desired. If you've ever smoked a cigar, the concept is similar. The vapor does not have to be inhaled and probably won't have the desired effect if inhaled.

2. After drawing the vapor into your mouth, hold it there for about 4-5 seconds before either inhaling into the lungs or exhaling through your mouth or nose.

3. When drawing the vapor into your mouth, make sure you do so slow and steady. Pulling hard as you would on a cigarette actually causes the heater coil to malfunction. The heater coil works when air is gently drawn across it. Pulling hard will also cause the liquid to be drawn directly into your mouth - a very unpleasant experience indeed.

4. Nicotine can only penetrate by inhalation into the lungs on a traditional cigarette. However, with an e-cigarette, it absorbs through mucous membranes in the mouth, lungs and nose. If you do not inhale into the mouth first, then into the lungs and then out the nose, the nicotine absorption is much less and you will not have a satisfying experience.

5. The "effects" that a smoker is looking for is typically delievered in under 8 seconds with a traditional cigarette. Due to the mucous membrane absorption, e-cigarettes can take up to 30 seconds to take effect. This is often a frustration for new vapers, but when understood, can be adapted to.

Using this longer, but slower and less deep, inhalation method should cause your e-cig to last you between 1.5-2 packs of cigarettes. The longer your inhale, the shorter the lifespan of the cartridge
 

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Again, I would say both of these articles are bunk, possibly included on websites as a means of limiting liability to the businesses involved.

I would say that simple 3rd grade math says you're wrong.

A single full flavor cigarette has about 1.3mg of nicotine. That is a total of 26mg of nicotine in a pack of cigarettes.


24mg ejuice has 24mg of nicotine per 1ml of liquid. The average pack a day smoker goes through about 3ml of liquid per day, which would equal 72mg of nicotine. This would obviously make them sick as a dog if they were absorbing nicotine at the same rate as cigarette smoking. Vapers typically only absorb about 25-30% of the nicotine in the juice.
 

webbb82

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i think this says it all
This information is derived from multiple expert sources including clinical trials and lab tests that we know were executed correctly, such as by Dr Laugesen [2]; and expert vapers' experiences with multiple hardware and liquid types.

There is a wide variation between the effects of e-cigarette use for different individuals, and in some cases this has been demonstrated first here at ECF. For example, we can show that there is a factor 10 difference in individual tolerance to nicotine: some cannot over-vape 6mg (0.6%) strength liquid; some must use 60mg (6%) strength in order to successfully continue with e-cigarette use. Because of this it is impossible to state what any given individual's response to a specific item of hardware, or e-liquid type or strength - or especially a combination of the two - will be. The effect on individuals is multiplied by equipment variations. Therefore, only the individual's own experience is valid, since the variables are impossible to calculate.

Because of this, no hard and fast rules can be stated. The above advice is a general guide, and best used as a starting point for individual testing and trial.
 

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here is a interesting article on how to get better hits and more nicotine into your veins
How Do You Inhale an Electronic Cigarette | METRO E-Cigs

Do not draw the vapor directly into your lungs as you would a cigarette. Instead, draw it into your mouth (use your cheeks as a vacuum) and then inhale into your lungs if desired. If you've ever smoked a cigar, the concept is similar. The vapor does not have to be inhaled and probably won't have the desired effect if inhaled.

2. After drawing the vapor into your mouth, hold it there for about 4-5 seconds before either inhaling into the lungs or exhaling through your mouth or nose.

3. When drawing the vapor into your mouth, make sure you do so slow and steady. Pulling hard as you would on a cigarette actually causes the heater coil to malfunction. The heater coil works when air is gently drawn across it. Pulling hard will also cause the liquid to be drawn directly into your mouth - a very unpleasant experience indeed.

4. Nicotine can only penetrate by inhalation into the lungs on a traditional cigarette. However, with an e-cigarette, it absorbs through mucous membranes in the mouth, lungs and nose. If you do not inhale into the mouth first, then into the lungs and then out the nose, the nicotine absorption is much less and you will not have a satisfying experience.

5. The "effects" that a smoker is looking for is typically delievered in under 8 seconds with a traditional cigarette. Due to the mucous membrane absorption, e-cigarettes can take up to 30 seconds to take effect. This is often a frustration for new vapers, but when understood, can be adapted to.

Using this longer, but slower and less deep, inhalation method should cause your e-cig to last you between 1.5-2 packs of cigarettes. The longer your inhale, the shorter the lifespan of the cartridge

I even believed it until I setup an IGO dripper. I got an unmistakable nicotine buzz off that dripper with a 3 ohm coil. The vapor was much denser than my Pro tank II clearomizer. Those are probably very good instructions for noobs until experience takes over.
 

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Again, I would say both of these articles are bunk, possibly included on websites as a means of limiting liability to the businesses involved.

Different delivery methods will yield different results, it's really that simple. It's long been said that electronic cigarettes do not deliver the same exact concentration that a traditional tobacco cigarette does, so I wouldn't call it false and honestly, the information in no way protects a business or a business owner. It's basic general information, nothing more, nothing less.

I would be curious as to how this would limit liability for any business, so feel free to explain. Vendors may compare X mg of nicotine to X amount of cigarettes, but the comparison is general information as well. There's not enough information to clearly compare vaping X mg of e-liquid with Y mg of nicotine to Z amount of cigarettes and honestly, it'll probably be a while before we get to that point because there are too many variables in nicotine concentrations.

To get exact results, every single vendor would have to do titration on every single batch of e-liquid they sell. Some do, most don't because it's time consuming. That doesn't mean they shouldn't, all liquids should be tested, but most go by what their vendors say is in the products they use.
 

webbb82

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"Do not draw the vapor directly into your lungs as you would a cigarette."

Do people actually do this? I smoked cigarettes off and on for 25 years and certainly only tried that once or twice at most.
im with you ive only done that a few times, pretty hard core and i smoked two packs of marb reds a day
 
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