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i didnt like the z atty but i do use genesis atty's. but the Z Atty is very popular and my ry4 when run a little cooler take on a creamy caramel flavor, drip a touch of that vanilla in some double ry4 and make butterscotch 
the only way to find out is to try, setups vary, but geni's have a habit of making some flavor more intense and making others lighter.
you may actually find notes in your juices you never noticed before as well as some juices tasting very light, clean and flavorful, but dry and subdued.
I see you dont have a lot of posts so no offense meant but you know it is a rebuildable tank using wire and steel mesh you set up correct?
the only way to find out is to try, setups vary, but geni's have a habit of making some flavor more intense and making others lighter.
you may actually find notes in your juices you never noticed before as well as some juices tasting very light, clean and flavorful, but dry and subdued.
I see you dont have a lot of posts so no offense meant but you know it is a rebuildable tank using wire and steel mesh you set up correct?
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i know know im new to the forum but i do my homework and my mom has all the the other toys she has showed me the way.kinda like yoda. ha ha this is the one thing she does not have and ive seen the most of the vids on utube,look like fun doing it from scratch so to speak.thanksfor being easy on me
i've never owned a z atty, but i've heard that they're relatively hum-drum for the price (or at least the pre-built wicks and coils that come with them are). i've also heard that they don't come with a screw to seal the fill-hole, which is pretty much a deal-breaker for me because i always seal my fill-hole and have never had any wicking problems because of it.
that being said, the performance of your genesis atomizer depends mostly on you. if you poorly build a $200 genny, it will perform poorly. if you build a $20 genny well, it will perform well.
that being said, the performance of your genesis atomizer depends mostly on you. if you poorly build a $200 genny, it will perform poorly. if you build a $20 genny well, it will perform well.
yeah, it might be a better route to start out, i would hate to spen all that money and be disapointed .thanks for the input .
I've had one for about a year...
Z-atty is a solid piece of kit, made with 316 steel and a big quartz tank. I get very nice performance from mine, and I don't regret the purchase.
But! It has an airy draw, 2 allen keys, it's heavy, and the wick hole is small - especially with the insulator left in (I threw the insulator out, along with the unimpressive wicks they included). And the top cap is too loose.
It's not my go-to gennie; it's a change of pace piece for me. You can do worse then the Z-atty, but I think you can do better, too.
Z-atty is a solid piece of kit, made with 316 steel and a big quartz tank. I get very nice performance from mine, and I don't regret the purchase.
But! It has an airy draw, 2 allen keys, it's heavy, and the wick hole is small - especially with the insulator left in (I threw the insulator out, along with the unimpressive wicks they included). And the top cap is too loose.
It's not my go-to gennie; it's a change of pace piece for me. You can do worse then the Z-atty, but I think you can do better, too.
i wouldn't recommend using any rebuildable on an ego twist. i know that there are some that are designed for it, but too many things can go wrong, especially if you've never rebuilt an atty before. even if you know all of the theory by heart, actually doing it is an entirely different animal. i'd say best case scenario is you end up with a busted ego - not a knock on you by any means, but it's not easy to make sure you get all the shorts out the first time around.
i would highly recommend a vamo; it's relatively cheap, but it's invaluable for rebuilding. it fires anything down to 1.2 ohms, but reads resistances down to 0.1 ohms, so even if you outgrow it, it's still one of the most convenient ways to check the resistance of a coil (i actually lost my first one after getting into mechs, but bought a second one entirely for this purpose).
this is probably the best kit i've seen:
$54.32 Vamo V3 Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Set - with Nitecore I2 charger / 2*Sony US18650V3 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
the charger it comes with is excellent, as are the batteries. they're actually rated for 10 amps, so if/when you decide to move on to mechs, you'll be able to safely use the same batteries down to about 0.50 ohms (4.2 volts / 0.5 ohms = 8.4 amps, so within the rating plus some headroom for safety).
regarding the atty, if you're dead-set on a genesis, i'd recommend either an rsst (if you're okay with a plastic tank) or an aga-t2 (if you want pyrex). i personally started with an aga-t2, but i hear the rsst is a little easier to set up.
above all else, please absorb as much information as you can, and be safe. as i mentioned above, the batteries in the kit i recommended are rated for 10 amps - this is more than enough current to do some serious damage to your device and to you.
edit: just to clarify, in the first paragraph, "busted ego" is referring to your twist, not your pride
Certainly not an entry level Gennie. Try the RSST at 1/5 the cost, and it's easy as a first genie. Use one all the time, and yes, juice does taste better (different) in a Gennie. Most people love the difference. Some don't. But, these are advanced devices and not nearly as easy as a twist in prebuild atty like a Protank or Davide. Just got the new PT2 and have had the Davide. Both great, PT2 a bit easier to fill, the Davide less leaks, imho. Second or third the Vamo if you want an RSST. If you start with a PT, maybe the iTaste 3.0 from IVape. Both very nice, good luck, happy shopping, best to you!
thanks for the great wisdom ,i sometimes get ahead of myself and pay for it laterthe hard way!
I had the Z Atty but flavor wise, it doesn't compare to the AC9. The AC9 is just much more flavorful and richer. Both are solid well made devices.
Definitely buy a clone or something cheaper first to find out if you even like genesis atomizers. A lot of people don't have the patience for them. No point in spending the money if you aren't even going to end up using it. There are a lot of great gennies out there for a lot less that perform just as well or better.
I own a Z Atty Pro. Honestly the performance of a genesis style atomizer comes down to the build.
I like the z atty. it's well built, and flushes to my Provari well. Is it my all day, everyday atty? No.
I own the agat2 as well, and it performs just as well if its built right, but doesn't flush mount.
It's all preference. What do YOU like, and how well can you build the coil/wick setup?
Good luck to yuh!
I like the z atty. it's well built, and flushes to my Provari well. Is it my all day, everyday atty? No.
I own the agat2 as well, and it performs just as well if its built right, but doesn't flush mount.
It's all preference. What do YOU like, and how well can you build the coil/wick setup?
Good luck to yuh!
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