Mooch's Recommended Batteries

Thanks Mooch, you are the battery Master. And I just purchased 3 lghb2 and 3 lghe2. For my Reuleax DNA, and your battery information, has made my decision making process a lot easier. VAPE SAFE GOD BLESS

Mooch, what applications for the 10A battery? I'd evade it since everything over 10w is too much for that battery. For the most part I have almost all for different applications (use the 30A for the 200 mods, the 25A for the 100+ mods and the 20A for the 30/80 lot). So I buy the biggest capacity possible of each battery and do a lot of research.
Thanks so much for the post!

Anyone vaping at about 20W or less (single battery) can use the 10A NCR18650GA. If they have a dual or triple battery mod then they can vape at 40W or 60 and enjoy the extra capacity.

Hey Mooch,
I was looking for more info on the 14500s and couldn't find much. What do you suggest besides the AW IMR 14500?

I haven't tested any 14500's yet so I don't have any to recommend but the AW's have been good batteries in the other sizes.

Hi Mooch. May I suggest in the next version of this graphic to group 18650s by max current instead of sort alphabetically? For example, higher current on the left, higher capacity on the right?

Thanks for the suggestion!
I think that becomes problematic in some scenarios. It would get confusing, essentially looking random, in the middle of the table. There are so few batteries in the table that, I thought, it would be easy to scan. Not so? Perhaps horizontal sorting instead of vertical?

The ratings, both mine and the company's will be described more clearly in the next release of the table though.

Thanks Mooch for taking the time, trouble and effort to do all that you do for the vaping community. Much appreciated.

Thank you so much for this.

Hi Mooch. Bit of an old-timer coming back into this and do not trust myself to do the due-diligence - so I'd greatly appreciate your insight if you'd be so kind

I use a regulated mod that takes a single 18650. I usually wrap my coils between 0.5 and 1.3 ohms. So far, I've been using those purple Efest 3.7v/35A/2500mAh but after reading this thread i'm not sure if they're the safest and/or efficient way to go about (i do tend to notice the drop super early).

Are the LG Mj1's a better option? Any insight and/or recommended replacement batteries would be greatly appreciated. I hope you don't mind the hijack.

@Kurgan, if you vape at under 75W the HG2 or 30Q is a fantastic choice. That Efest is probably, hopefully, a 20A battery and could also be used at up to 75W (if it is indeed a 20A battery).

The MJ1 is a good battery but the HG2 or 30Q actually give you more vaping time if you're above 20W or so due to the greater efficiency of the HG2 and 30Q.

Thanks, I appreciate the reply! I'll look into them

Hey Mooch great list!!!
I've been using dual Panasonic NCR 18650B's in a DNA40 box mod at under 10 watts on a 0.9-1.5 ohm coils. The battery life is incredible.
What would be the max wattage I could in use this configuration?

@Sakurai, probably about 20W.

Hi Mooch, thanks for everything you do for us.

We have three different type mods that use 18650s: eLeaf Picos, Vaporesso Targets, and Kanger Subox minis. We don't use them much as my mom prefers the eLeaf 40W with built in batteries because they are lighter. We use Kanger pre-made coils most of the time, though I've been using a Guardian with the new fancy coils a bit.

However, the time will come when we will need to start using the others. I'm going to switch now to save the 40W for her.

Would the Sony VTC6 be appropriate for our devices? My mom sometimes accidentally jacks up her wattage without realizing it; I'll get home from work and she'll be upset because her vape is warmer than she likes and she can't remember how to turn it down. I lock her in at 20-30 W, but sometimes she unknowingly presses the buttons just right to undo the lock and skyrocket her watts.

Thanks! I don't want my mom to blow herself up and I don't really understand batteries.

@tresgay, you can use a single VTC6 at up to 75W fairly safely.

Since I don't understand everything I read about batteries, would you mind telling me which one would be best for our situation? I don't mind spending more if doing so ensures my mom is happy and safe.

The VTC6 if you are not going over 75W. I don't know the maximum power setting of all of those mods.
You can also use the Samsung 30Q or LG HG2 if the VTC6 is hard to find.

She only goes over 20 or 30 by accident; I rarely go over 30 Thanks for the advice, sometimes she accidentally gets up to 75 on the target. Nothing else in the house gets up that high. Thank you!

Hello and thank you for all the time you take to test and make this information available to us Mooch. Much appreciated.


I currently like to vape between .20 ohm's and .60ohm's and use anywhere from around 30w to 80w. I'm also using a dual battery mod (Sigelei Fuchai 213). I rarely go as high as 80w but I do have the pre-heat feature set to 70w for .50sec atm and normally just have it set to 47w normally. I'm also using the Efest batteries 18650 3.7V 2500 mAh 35A and don't feel comfortable using them in this mod. With all the clones and bad batteries I was happy to find the info you have provided here. Thanks again for that. So my question is, would you say it's safe to use an LG HE4 or a Samsung 25R5 for my intended use or should I be looking into batteries with at least 25A? I was also looking to find a chart that shows how many amps a battery should be used for what ohm coils you use and at what wattage you use. I like the 2500 mAh capacity because it last me a good amount of time before needing to charge them, 3000 mAh would be great as they would last longer between charges. Also, should I have a set of batteries with higher amps for when I like to build dual coils and vape around .20 ohm's? I guess to make things easier, would a 3000 mAh 20A battery be fine for the wattage and ohm's I use? Sorry if I'm confusing, just want to make sure I'm being safe. Seems that some of my preferences are at the limits and I should be using two different batteries for my vaping. Thanks in advance for your help.

Coil resistance doesn't matter when using a regulated mod, only the power setting.

You can use 3000mAh VTC6's, 30Q's or HG2's at up to 75W each so they will work well for you in a 2-battery mod...150W max.

Ok thanks for the help. So the main concern with coil resistance and batteries is for unregulated mods. Glad to hear that 3000mAh can be used as it will give me more vape time. I do have one mech mod, what would you recommend for that if I'm building the same range of .20 ohm to .60 ohm builds?

Run the ohm's law equation. If you're drawing less than 20A or so I recommend the same batteries as I did before.

Ok, thanks very much for your help.

What do you think of orbatronic ncr18650pd batteries? I believe they're made by panasonic

I haven't tested them yet but they appear to be a standard 10A-12A battery with not very high capacity.

Hey Mooch,
When are you putting out another (updated) version of your battery poster?
When I go looking for batteries, that's what I use for my #1 reference.
Thanks mate

This recommended batteries table?
It doesn't change until I find other batteries to recommend.

Until then this is the latest, up-to-date version.

I saw RIP Trippers throws away his batteries after 3 months and buys new ones.
Does anyone else throw away their batteries after 3-6 months? I've been using some VTC5s for a couple of years! Is that safe?

Yes.
If they're not getting hotter during use then keep using them until they're too frustrating to use anymore due to reduced performance.

Hey mooch real quick question I have been using the lg hg batteries since I've started vaping and 3 mods later just wanted to make sure there still good to use I have them on the wismec 200s a kangertech dripbox and a alien 220 all stay around 60-50 watts just wanted to make sure it was safe to use around that wattage everything has been fine but just wanted to hear your opinion

I don't know the condition of your batteries but assuming they have been well cared for you can use them up to about 75W each. What is making you worried about them now if they have been working well, without issues?

Mooch, I have always used AW batteries from RTD but now have regulated mods that the wife uses. What should I get her for 10to 15 watts? Also I use an old REO grand & mini is the newer AW 2200 mah the best for my 1.2 to 1.5 builds?

Thanks in Advance,
Louis

At 15W or 1.2 ohms in a mech the NCR18650GA's are your best choice with VTC6's, 30Q's, or HG2's being a good second choice. But if you need button top batteries they might be hard to find in a button top version. Try www.imrbatteries.com

Thanks as I was wondering which would be best for my REO's. Can use the flat tops just have to push down a little more on the firing button. Thanks Again, Louis

Found button tops imr. Thanks

I checked out www.imrbatteries.com good prices and low shipping cost!! But I did not see any LG 18650'S who would you recommend for authentic LG Batteries?

Found these in your information and found some. Thanks for all the helpfull information!!
illumn.com
rtdvapor.com
orbtronic.com
liionwholesale.com
imrbatteries.com

what do you think of the 20700s that come with the captain?

Check my blog for my 20700 ratings table and my test report for that battery.

Hey mooch. Thanks for all of your support and research in making the vape community safer.

I use a reuleaux 2/3 and typically use the 3 battery option, but once in a while I'll use the 2 battery option. The max wattage is 250w however I usually hover around 80-90w with a 0.12 ohm dual coil configuration. I've been using illiumn vtc4's and it seems they are having trouble charging this morning. So I think it's time to trash them and buy something new. What would you recommend? Vtc6's?

Also, do you have a recommended 18650 charger? I have a nitecore i4 charger, but the charging post broke from the first battery slot. Was wondering if there was something better, or if I should just get another i4?

Thanks!

Sorry, no charger recommendations yet.

Samsung 30Q or VTC6 are your best bet.

Sir, my daily setup is asmodus minikin boost 155w. I'm using fused clapton so I'm vaping around 75w - 80w.
What's the best battery for my daily setup?
i need a battery with a great wrap quality because sometimes the wrap is broken within a month

Thanks!

I don't have any recommendations for a battery with a durable wrap as all weren't made for this kind of use.

Two battery mod?
At 80W you're running at 40W per battery and can use 30Q's, VTC6's, or HG2's.

Hey Mooch, I know you are busy doing your new videos and such, but your
Mooch's Recommended Batteries has said UPDATING THE TABLE for a while now. Any idea when you'll be done and have a new table for us?

I'm also looking for the table. Is there some reason we can't see the older one? I'm looking for a single battery I can run regulated in a hotcig RSQ at 80w (assuming it does the full 80w). Looking for maximum battery life. Are VTC6s ok or am I pushing my luck beyond 75w? HG2s and 30Qs appear to be the same so would I be better off with VTC5a? What wattage is it safe to run VTC5a up to? Thanks

ModBox,
As it says above, it’s being updated. A table with old recommendations I can no longer make is useless.

GrmpyOldMan
I hope in the next few weeks to have the table redone. Answering a couple hundred messages a day, doing the testing, doing the videos, doing the research....all of those are screaming high priority requests by lots of vapers. I’m trying to get them all done but being one person, just volunteering my time, means that things can take a while.

Why don’t you guys want to watch my videos? The second and third ones have recommendations.

Why not read the test reports for the batteries you’re considering? Everything that would end up in the table comes from the test reports. All the info for the table is still available.