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What do cell ratings actually tell us? Part 7A: Cycle Life

This is the first of two parts.

First things first, what is a cycle?

It’s the full discharge of a cell down to its low voltage cutoff, typically 2.5V for a standard li-ion cell, and then a full charge back up to 4.20V. It is the use of the cell at its full capacity rating.

If you remove 3000mAh of charge from a 3000mAh cell, and then recharge it fully, that would be one cycle. If instead you discharge it down to 50%, removing 1500mAh, and then fully charged the cell that would be 1/2 cycle. You would have to do that twice to count as a full cycle.

Two half cycles don’t exactly equal one full cycle since they age the cell differently but it’s close enough for our purposes for now. Theoretically though, two half cycles should age a cell a tiny bit less than one full cycle.

The cycle life rating is the minimum number of these full cycles a cell should deliver, at a certain discharge and charge rate, before the cell’s capacity drops to a certain level. This level is typically between 60%-80% of the original capacity.

For example, a 3000mAh cell with a 300 cycle life rating set at 70% would mean that the cell should still have at least 3000mAh x 70% = 2100mAh of capacity left after being cycled 300 times at the discharge/charge rates mentioned in the datasheet. It might have a little bit more or a lot more capacity left after 300 cycles but it must have at least 70% left if that is the rating.

This point can be used as the end of the cell’s life or the cell can still continue to be used. After dropping to 60%-80% of the cell’s original capacity though many people would be frustrated at having to recharge that cell (or battery pack) more often and would replace the cell/battery pack.

But for some applications, like powerwalls or other low-power energy storage uses, the cell might be cycled many more times to extract as much as possible from the cell to reduce the overall costs of the system.

This all has to be done with an eye on safety though. Continuing to use a cell at well beyond its rated cycle life can mean the cell’s internal resistance has gone up, which makes it hotter during use, and any damage inside the cell is building up too.

Eventually this can lead to cell failure, which can be the cell just self-discharging slowly down to zero volts (ruining the cell) or it can mean the cell short-circuits internally and catches fire (very rare though). A very good battery management system (BMS) is important whenever li-ion cells are used but is critical when cells are used at beyond their rated cycle life.

This BMS can be a few protections built into a vaping device or flashlight, it can be a simple circuit board added to an e-skateboard or e-bike battery pack, or it can be an incredibly sophisticated monitoring, reporting, and protection system for a large energy storage facility.

Let’s look at the cycle life specs of two theoretical cells and compare them…


Example One
Cell A is rated to have at least 70% of its capacity left after 250 cycles at 5A discharge and 1A charge at room temperature.

Cell B is rated to have at least 60% of its capacity left after 200 cycles at 5A discharge and 1A charge at room temperature.

Which cell will last longer?

Cell A will. It will only drop to 70% (or higher) after 250 cycles. Cell B could drop to as low as 60% after only 200 cycles. Cell A is the better choice if cycle life is your priority (assuming it has a high enough current rating).

What’s critical when looking at the cycle life rating of a cell is to note the rate at which the cells are discharged and charged. You cannot directly compare the cycle life ratings of two cells unless that rating was set the same way for both cells!

Example Two
Cell A will deliver at least 300 cycles before dropping to 70% for 10A discharges/4A charges.
Cell B will deliver at least 500 cycles before dropping to 70% for 3A discharges/1A charges.

If we didn’t read how the cycle life rating was set then we might think that Cell B is the better choice since it would deliver at least 500 cycles before dropping to 70% of its original capacity, compared to Cell A only lasting 300 cycles before dropping to 70%.

But Cell A was cycled at a much higher discharge/charge rate than a Cell B. This means that Cell A was being used much harder and that ages the cell faster. We can not directly compare the cycle life ratings for these two cells.

If Cell A was discharged/charged as slowly as Cell B then Cell A might actually last longer. We can’t know though unless the testing was done under the same conditions. This often makes directly comparing the cycle life specs of two cells very difficult.

Part two will be posted soon.

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Freemax Maxus Max 168W Pod Mod Kit Review by Z-Lee

Freemax Maxus Max 168W Pod Mod Kit
Unleash the Mesh Pro Beast!


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(All pictures have been adopted from Freemax's website or taken by me for the purpose of this review. Please contact me if you'd like pictures removed due to copyright infringement.)


Welcome to another one of my overly done reviews where we'll take a look at the new Mesh Pro pod kit - the Maxus Max. I eagerly awaited for this kit to arrive, and anyone that uses Freemax products likely understands why. This is the latest product Freemax has released, which is essentially a compact pod version of the Mesh Pro and M Pro 2 line they've been working on in tandem with the Fireluke-series (my favorite coils).

Regardless of my excitement in receiving this product, I will remain unbias in this review to maintain a fair evaluation against other products with similar functioning. I want to give @Freemax_Jerry a special thank you for making this happen!

First I'll share with you a basic overview of what you'll find on Freemax's website, and then I'll take a deeper look into the aesthetics, features, mod chip, coils, and performance, and then end the review with some of my personal observations and experiences in using this pod kit with a comparative rating at the end.

First, let's take a look at what Freemax has laid out for us in flipbook mode.

Basic Specs:

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Dimensions: 43 by 30.9 by 128.5 mm
Weight: 200g
Pod Capacity: 5 mL
Battery: 2x 18650 External Batteries
Output Voltage: 0.7 to 8.4 Volts
Output Wattage: 5 to 168 Watts
Firing Modes: Power, VPC (Variable Power Curve), Bypass, TC (Temperature Control) in SS316, Nickel, and Titanium, and TCR (Temperature Coefficient of Resistance)
Currently Available Coil Resistances (2 More Coils Still to Come): MX1 (0.15Ω), MX2 (0.2Ω), MX3 (0.15Ω), and MX1 (SS316 - 0.12Ω)



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Package Contents:

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  • Freemax Maxus Max 168W Mod
  • Freemax Maxus DTL Pod (5 mL)
  • MX2 Mesh Coil (0.2Ω - Preinstalled)
  • MX1 Mesh Coil (0.15Ω)
  • USB-C Type Charging Cable
  • Warning Card
  • Warranty Card
  • User Manual


Colors:

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  • Black
  • Blue
  • Gold
  • Gunmetal
  • Silver


Basic Features:

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  • New MX Coil Platform
  • FM CoilTech 4.0
  • IML Screen (in-mold labels - I'll get a little bit into this later)
  • Multiple Output Modes
  • Maxus DTL Pod
  • Side Filling System
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FM Chip 2.0 & Protections:

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  • Over Charge Protection
  • Over Discharge Protection
  • Short Circuit Protection
  • Low Voltage Protection
  • Overtime Protection
  • Open Circuit Protection
  • Overload Protection
  • Overheating Protection
(I think you're safe to use this!)

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As I promise when i Start to be new member

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My friend gave me Rose V3, but he lost airflow ring. Of course you can not buy original spare ring ? So I made a new one with one idea in my mind, basically RoseV3 is not mtl so I made AF ring with just one hole 2mm. And there is one other idea, why not bras ring like a spring. So I cut and open ring with hole, and now you can easily turn around AF ring and it did not need O-ring or wire. It clings to the atty body :)

here it is simple as simple can it be :) Solid Brass Hex Nuts 3/4” NPT Female Thread
and simple proxxon drill with few attachment's..

Hope you like idea and job..

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【HealthCabin Giveaway】Kumiho Model V Pod Kit, Ends on 12th Jan

Dear ECF Friends,

Thanks for your participating~ ;)
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The Kumiho Model V Pod Kit Giveaway has ended, please feel free to check the winners below, congratulations!!:toast:

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#123 @Space Cat
#38 @Svanka Lupert
#126 @Gerald Bone


Please DM us below infos to get the prize shipped, thanks.

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Happy New Year!

A brand new year is here, how time flies.

Heathcabin is going to celebrate the new year by giving something different, we will giveaway
Kumiho brand new Model V Pod Kit, which can bring a diverse vaping experience with 3 lucky winners in total. In addtion, Healthcabin is now holding a January GEEKDAY 2022 promotion with 20% OFF for all geekvapes. If you are Geekvape fans, don’t miss the chance and save more on your favorite devices!!


Feel free to check the details below.


Kumiho Model V, a polish finished metallic pod system, brings a diverse vaping experience with multiple stunning colors, provides a strong flavor with adjustable airflow. With its innovative vibration interaction, you will know it is ready to vape when the pod connected.



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Do you wanna test it? Take the chance to join us and win it home for free.;)


How To Enter?
Word Chain Game - Take the last letter from the last post and post a new word(about vaping) begins with the taken letter.


Example:
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So let's start with: Model V

Note:
1. 3 lucky winners will be randomly selected by random.org on 13th Jan.
2. You must be over 21.
3. Number your entry, for instance: #Post 1, #Post 2...But No Continuous Posts at the same time.
4. Max 10 replies for each participant.


Good luck to you all!:thumbs::thumbs:

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Freemax Maxus Max 168W Kit Powered By Dual External 18650 Batteries

Maxus Max 168W Kit by Freemax is one of the smallest dual battery pod mods, which makes full use of the inner space of this device. This Maxus Max 168W Pod Mod Kit is powered by two external 18650 batteries to bring out double endurance and sufficient power with compact size. With Type-C USB Port and 2A Fast Charging function, you can completely get rid of power anxiety.

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The Best Steam Crave Hadron Mini DNA100C Starter Kit 100W

Hadron Mini DNA100C Kit contains Hadron Mini DNA100C Mod and Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA advanced version. It supports single 18650/21700/20700 battery with 100W max power.
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Hadron Mini DNA100C Vape Box Mod is compatible with max 25mm diameter tanks, especially match with Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA, Aromamizer Classic MTL RTA, and Glaz Mini perfectly. Powered by DNA 100C chipset, it provides Replay/Watts Boost/Accurate Temperature Control mode.

What's more, Hadron Mini DNA100C Combo Kit also features firmware upgrade, type-c fast charging, pass-through. Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA Advanced Version has 6ml/7ml e-juice capacity, features single coil/mesh/postless deck, and it is the most flavorful RDTA 25mm.

Please go to best online vape store to choose the vape you like.

You may also like:

Geekvape H45 (Aegis Hero 2) Pod Mod Kit 1400mAh 45W
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Rincoe Jellybox Nano X Kit | Jellybox Air X Kit

Rincoe Jellybox Nano X Kit

Jellybox Nano X Kit utilizes UV 3D print replaceable magnetic panel and fashionable lanyard design. It features innovative airflow control system, auto draw & auto-adjust wattage, you can obtain the most comfortable experience no matter which kind of coil being used. Built with 1000mAh battery, it will provide you all-day vaping and has 10-30W power range. Jellybox Nano X Cartridge can hold 2.8ml e-juice, features side filling and is visible. What's more, it is compatible with Jellybox Nano Coil. And the package contains a mesh 1.0ohm coil for MTL vaping, and a mesh 0.5ohm coil for RDL vaping.

Details:
1. Airflow control system
2. Auto draw & auto-adjust wattage
3. Replacement magnetic 3D panel
4. Compatible with Jellybox Nano Coil
5. 1000mAh battery capacity
6. Type-C charging, LED indicator
7. Fashionable lanyard
8. Side filling & visible cartridge
9. Safety protections: 8S auto cutoff/Over-heating/Low Voltage/Charging/Short-circuit/Over Charging Protection





Jellybox Air X Kit

Jellybox Air X Kit has 1000mAh built-in battery with 10-30W power. 3D print replacement magnetic panels are designed for Jellybox Air X for good texture and strong protection. A fashionable lanyard is applied for Jellybox Air X Kit. Equipped with innovative airflow system, it will provide you the most comfortable vaping experience. In addition, it also features auto draw & auto-adjust wattage. The pod of 3.5ml capacity is visible and features side filling. Jellybox Air X Kit is compatible with Jellybox Nano Coil. And the package contains a mesh 1.0ohm coil for MTL vaping, and a mesh 0.5ohm coil for RDL vaping.

Details:
1. Airflow control system
2. Auto draw & auto-adjust wattage
3. Replacement magnetic 3D panel
4. Compatible with Jellybox Nano Coil
5. 1000mAh battery capacity
6. Type-C charging, LED indicator
7. Fashionable lanyard
8. Side filling & visible cartridge
9. Safety protections: 8S auto cutoff/Over-heating/Low Voltage/Charging/Short-circuit/Over Charging Protection


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Durable case for 21700 batteries

I recently purchased a new tactical flashlight which uses 21700 batteries. I need to find a good, durable case. I would love to find something that attaches to a duty belt setup, but after a week of searching, I don't think that's going to be possible.

I did receive a case with the flashlight, but the battery doesn't even come close to fitting in the thing, even though the case says it's for 21700 batteries (most likely it's for a 20700 battery). Ideally, it should hold two spare batteries, and be durable as they're going to get a lot of use in the field. I see a lot of 'em on Amazon, but I don't want to order a case, only to find they're too small for a 21700 battery. Suggestions?
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SXK BB DNA60W Box Mod clone-Purple

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The SXK BB DNA60W Box Mod clone-Purple is constructed from aluminum with an all-in-one design. BB DNA60W Box Mod by SXK is powered by 1 x 18650 battery (not included) and maximum power output is 60W. The box mod is powered by Evolv DNA 60 chip.
More info BB DNA60W Box Mod
Authentic Evolv DNA60 Chipset;
This is a high quality device by SXK;
Anodized aluminum construction;
60 watts maximum output;
USB port for firmware upgrading, modification and customization;
Minimum Kanthal resistance: 0.16 ohms;
Internal OLED display and menu controls;
Powered by 1 x 18650 battery (not included);
Includes an Nautilus BVC coil adapter;
Delrin drip tip included;
Exceptional build quality;
Limited stock run
This BB Box with Logo

QUICK LINK,click here>>Buy SXK BB Style 60W All-in-One VW Box Mod Vape Kit w/ USB Port Purple

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The New Rincoe Jellybox Nano X Pod Kit $23.99

Rincoe Jellybox Nano X Pod System Kit is constructed of UV 3D Printing & PCTG & PC with compact and exquiste. Rincoe Jellybox Nano X Pod Kit is powered by built-in 1000mah battery with max 30W output.
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And Rincoe Jellybox Nano X features battery life indicator to show power. Rincoe Jellybox Nano X cartridge comes with 2.8ml capacity with side filling design.If you wanna a mini kit,please go to vape shop to buy.

Features

• Designed For RDL, MTL, or DTL Vaping
• UV 3D Print Replaceable Magnetic Panel
• Compatible With Rincoe Jellybox Nano Pod Capacity And Coil
• 2.8ml Vape Juice
• Side Filling System
• Air-flow Control System
• Auto Draw & Auto-Adjust Wattage
• 1000mAh Internal Battery
• Anti-scratched Protection

Quick Link:Rincoe Jellybox Nano X Pod System Kit 1000mAh 30W

You may also like:https://vapesourcing.com/rincoe-jellybox-air-x-kit.html

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Freemax Product Calendar of 2021

Do you know how many vape products were released by the Freemax vape brand in 2021? Which product has attracted you? Which product do you have in hand?

In 2021, there are two series vape starter kits for users’ options: Freemax Marvos Seris Kits(Marvos T 80W, Marvos 60W, Marvos S 80W, and Marvos 80W) and Onnix series Kits(Onnix 20W and Onnix 2 15W). Freemax Marvos Kits are pod mod kits for either RDL or DTL vaping needs with MS Platform(MS Platform is Freemax’s pod mod system atomization for Marvos Series Kits), while Freemax Onnix kits are designed for both RDL and MTL vaping needs with OX Platform(OX Platform is Freemaxs new pod system atomization platform for Onnix series products).

What's more, Freemax launched their newest product - Maxus Max 168W Kit in December 2021, which is a revolutionary and compact dual battery pod mod with the max output of 168w that transplants the exact same structure of single/double/triple mesh coils of Mesh Pro Series and adopts industry-leading FM COILTECH4.0 mesh technology (Tea Fiber Cotton Formula & Military Grade SS904L Mesh Structure.

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For more information about Freemax vape kits, please visit the Freemax vape website directly.

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Vapesourcing Coupon Deals January(Daily Updated)

Updated 2022 New Coupons on Vapesourcing:wub::mail:

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Steam Crave Hadron Lite Combo Kit | Hadron Mini DNA100C Combo Kit | Hadron Mini DNA100C Mod

Steam Crave Hadron Lite Combo Kit

Hadron Lite Combo Kit is composed of Hadron Lite SBS MOD and Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA to provide outstanding performance and excellent flavor. It supports single 18650/20700/21700 battery with 100W max and Type-C fast charging. It also has multiple protections to guarantee the safe use of the Kit. There are power/voltage/TC(Ni, Ti and SS)/bypass mode to satisfy your different needs. The 0.69 inch OLED display screen to clearly show you the device status. In addition, the Steam Crave Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA of 25mm has single coil deck (20% bottom airflow and 80% side airflow), postless deck, and mesh deck for your option.

Details:
1. Composed of Steam Crave Hadron Lite SBS MOD and Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA
2. Supports 18650/20700/21700 battery with 100W max and Type-C fast charging
3. Power/Voltage/TC(Ni, Ti and SS)/Bypass Mode, 0.69 inch OLED display screen
4. Designed with spring-loaded 510 thread
5. Single coil deck, postless deck, and mesh deck for your option
6. Onboard reverse polarity/low resistance/short circuit/over-time/check atomizer/over-temperature/low voltage protection





Hadron Mini DNA100C Combo Kit

Hadron Mini DNA100C Kit contains Hadron Mini DNA100C Mod and Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA advanced version. It supports single 18650/21700/20700 battery with 100W max power. Hadron Mini DNA100C Mod is compatible with max 25mm diameter tanks, especially match with Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA, Aromamizer Classic MTL RTA, and Glaz Mini perfectly. Powered by DNA 100C chipset, it provides Replay/Watts Boost/Accurate Temperature Control mode. What's more, Hadron Mini DNA100C Combo Kit also features firmware upgrade, type-c fast charging, pass-through. Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA Advanced Version has 6ml/7ml e-juice capacity, features single coil/mesh/postless deck, and it is the most flavorful RDTA 25mm.

Details:
1. 100W max power output
2. Single 21700/18650/20700 battery (not included)
3. Type-C fast charging, built-in onboard charger
4. Powered by DNA 100C chipset
5. Replay/Watts Boost/Temperature Control mode
6. Firmware upgrade, pass-through, on-the-go USB
7. Compatible with max 25mm diameter tanks
8. Perfectly match with Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA, Aromamizer Classic MTL RTA, Glaz Mini
9. Multiple protection: Atomizer/Low Resistance/Onboard Reverse Polarity/Short Circuit/Overheat/Low Voltage Step Down Protection





Hadron Mini DNA100C Mod

Crave Hadron Mini DNA100C Mod supports single 18650/20700/21700 battery with 100W max. Hadron Mini DNA100C Mod is compatible with max 25mm diameter tanks, especially match with Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA, Aromamizer Classic MTL RTA, and Glaz Mini perfectly. Powered by DNA 100C chipset, it provides Replay/Watts Boost/Accurate Temperature Control mode. What's more, Hadron Mini DNA100C Combo Mod also features firmware upgrade, built-in onboard charging, type-c fast charging, pass-through and on-the-go USB. It also has multiple protections to guarantee the safe use of the Kit.

Details:
1. Single 18650/20700/21700 battery with 100W max and Type-C fast charging
2. Powered by DNA 100C Chipset, Replay/Watts Boost/Accurate TC Mode
3. Firmware upgraded, built-in onboard charging, fast charging, pass-through, on-the-go USB
4. Capable of working with any tank with max 25mm diameter
5. Fit for Aromamizer Supreme V3 RDTA, Aromamizer Classic MTL RTA and Glaz Mini
6. 0.9'' (80*160 pixel) full color TFT display screen
7. Atomizer/low resistance/onboard reverse polarity/short circuit/overheat/low voltage step down protection


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YFTK Billet Box Drip Tip Set for Billet box

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The Authentic YFTK Billet Box Drip Tip Setis suitable for Billet / SXK BB Box Kit. The drip tip is made from stainless steel (base) and POM (mouthpiece). Comes with 3 PCS spare POM mouthpiece. The billet box drip tip set inner diameter of the mouthpiece: 2.5mm / 3.0mm / 3.5mm / 4.0mm.
More info YFTK Billet Box Drip Tip Set
Suitable for Billet / SXK BB Box Kit
Made from stainless steel (base) and POM (mouthpiece)
Comes with 3 PCS spare POM mouthpiece
The inner diameter of the mouthpiece: 2.5mm / 3.0mm / 3.5mm / 4.0mm

QUICK link,click here>>Buy Authentic YFTK Billet Box Drip Tip Set for Billet / SXK BB Black

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Bench Test Results: EVE 26V – 7.5A 2550mAh 18650…less expensive alternative for low power use

These tests below only note my personal ESTIMATED ratings for the batteries I tested at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.

Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of property damage, personal injury, or even death. They are not supposed to be used outside of a fully protected battery pack and you use them at your own risk. Never exceed the battery’s true continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.

Testing batteries at their limits is dangerous and should never be attempted by anyone who has not thoroughly studied the dangers involved, understands the risks, has the proper equipment, and takes all appropriate safety precautions.

If the battery has only one current rating number, or if it only says "max", then I have to assume the battery is rated at that current level for any type of discharge, including continuous.

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Test Results
EVE is one of the large, established cell manufacturers in China (EVE). This is a moderate-capacity cell for low power applications and where lower cost could be a priority over performance, e.g., powerbanks, powerwalls, and larger PEV battery packs.

This cell is rated by EVE at 7.5A but I recommend staying below 5A to reduce the voltage sag and help to extend cell life. The standard charge rate is only 0.5A and the fast/rapid charge rate is 1.25A. Never charge this cell at above 1.25A.

The cycle life rating in the datasheet is decent but I have not tested it.

The two cells I tested delivered 2689mAh and 2711mAh. This is well above their 2550mAh nominal capacity rating. Their consistency is average for cells I’ve seen from the larger China cell manufacturers.

Two cells were purchased for testing by me.


Continuous Current Discharge Graphs
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Ratings and Performance Specs Graphic
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I want to work for the community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability, battery and charger testing and news, and a say in what I test, then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: Battery Mooch is creating battery and device tests | Patreon.

To see how other cells have tested check out this link: List of Battery Tests | E-Cigarette Forum

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Share Your "Clone" Recipes ?

OK, this is going to fall flat, badly....
With so many Vendors falling by the wayside, and so many vapers wanting their old favorites, maybe we could share recipes that are similar to, or reasonably similar to, old favorites.
I only have three, but here they are ;

Blade Runner (Heather's Heavenly Vapes)

Shisha Vanilla (INA) - 8%
Creme de Menthe (TFA) - 2%

Banana Cream Pie (RAWR)

Banana Cream Pie (TFA) - 6%
DX Bavarian Creme (TFA) - 2%
Graham Cracker (CAP) - 2%
Sweet Cream (TFA) - 2%
(honestly, it's been years since I ordered from RAWR, but the flavor seems to match)

This next one is a combination of flavors offered at Highbrow Vapors. They encouraged their customers to mix and match in that fashion.
Blueberry Cheesecake (Highbrow Vapors)

Cheesecake Graham Cracker Crust (TFA) - 4%
Blueberry Extra (TFA) - 3%
Blueberry Jam - (CAP) - 2%
New York Cheesecake (CAP) - 2%
Vanilla Swirl (TFA) - 2%
Marshmallow (TFA) -1%

All of these are tailored to my own personal tastes. You may not agree, but hopefully these recipes will help someone find a suitable replacement for e-liquids no longer available to them.
Please feel free to offer any 'clone' recipes you might have. Thanks.

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