Study Finds More Chemical Causes For Concern In E-Cigarette Vapor

[rokyo87]

Study Finds More Chemical Causes For Concern In E-Cigarette Vapor

Just replace "gro" with "org".

Any thoughts? Junk science or proper science? Concerns?

 

[Lessifer]

Study Finds More Chemical Causes For Concern In E-Cigarette Vapor

Just replace "gro" with "org".

Any thoughts? Junk science or proper science? Concerns?

I didn't click through to the study but from the details in the article, this isn't something new. If you put too much power through a device that is not meant to handle it, you go from aerosolization to burning. Luckily there is an easy way to know if you are applying too much power for your device, it tastes bad.

 

[Lessifer]

As for higher levels of aldehydes after repeated uses, it could be from gunk build up on the coil, or it could be because once you burn a wick, it only gets worse.

 

[Zakillah]

Needs more info and wants 40$ for the full paper.
What atty, what resistance?
Carbonyls in ecigs isn't really anything new either.

The fact that they found less carbonyls in a dual coil setup suggests it was too much power for the single coil to handle. Overheated juice produces carbonyls. Yes. Nothing new here.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

My response...

Would it kill these scientists to have a experienced vaper with advanced knowledge on hand to offer advice and to set up the devices and taste them to make sure the usage is within acceptable parameters?

The carcinogens they are referring to are both products of combustion, under normal circumstances that just doesn't happen, the second combustion happens the flavor changes, it becomes intolerable, when that happens people either throw out their single use coil or clean and re-wick their coil....

Another thing is is that there are temperature control devices these days that can completely eliminate the possibility of the coil reaching combustion temperature for all elements of the device or liquid, for those devices when set up properly this study is completely useless, for actual vapers this study is completely useless....

This study does not apply to real world conditions and the data only reflects what would happen in a laboratory when more than acceptable power is applied to vapor products....

Let's pretend the study was about 1.5 volt rechargeable batteries, they charge the battery to 1.5 volts, nothing happens, next test they charge the battery to 1000 volts and the battery overheats and all sorts of toxic chemicals are produced....

 

[bobwho77]

My response...

Thanks. I read the comments on WBUR's site, and after reading yours, I didn't think I really needed to add anything else

 

[retired1]

Typical NPR propaganda. I expect nothing else out of them.

 

[Black Forest guy]

Just answered over there:

Balanced take on Lawrence Berkeley Lab study

As an unpaid editor for a strictly non commercial and free german vaping magazine i would be very interested in a free copy of this "study". I promise to spend the saved money on a Flash e Vapor V4.

Thanks, Rainer

 

[TheMike21]

Debunked already

 

[sofarsogood]

Study Finds More Chemical Causes For Concern In E-Cigarette Vapor

Just replace "gro" with "org".

Any thoughts? Junk science or proper science? Concerns?

This is a remake of the New England Journal of Medicine study last year. Of course it was done in California. Government pays for these. The modern scientist makes sure his study finds what ever will appease the customer's politics. We can be truly thankful that Copernicus, Galileo, and Einstien weren't funded by the any of those national institute of science or health or what ever groups. And, by the way, neither was Han Lic.

 

[Taowulf]

Needs more info and wants 40$ for the full paper.
What atty, what resistance?
Carbonyls in ecigs isn't really anything new either.

The fact that they found less carbonyls in a dual coil setup suggests it was too much power for the single coil to handle. Overheated juice produces carbonyls. Yes. Nothing new here.

2.1Ohm, CE4, 3.8V.

I think they used an Aerotank for part of it as well.

Just a shame this crap gets passed off as "science". Researchers? More like hack artists.

 

[Semiretired]

That science community does not realize the bad name they give themselves.

 

[Kent C]

That science community does not realize the bad name they give themselves.

As long as they get gov't grants, they don't care.

 

[Semiretired]

As long as they get gov't grants, they don't care.

I know, but that does not make it right...

 

[Kent C]

I know, but that does not make it right...

Of course not. But they don't think in those terms...

 

[Black Forest guy]

Another interesting article:

No, they didn't find dangerous new carcinogens in your e-cigarette vapor

And thanks to a member here we were able to do a little write up as well (german only, sorry): Wie auch immer… nennt sich halt Studie

 

[zoiDman]

That science community does not realize the bad name they give themselves.

Who is a member of the Scientific Community?

Anyone who can get Funding and then do a Study?

 

[wiredlove]

Who is a member of the Scientific Community?

Anyone who can get Funding and then do a Study?

It appears to be exactly that. It's much like the use of the word engineer --> <some subject> + science = Yay! We're scientists.

 

[zoiDman]

It appears to be exactly that. It's much like the use of the word engineer --> <some subject> + science = Yay! We're scientists.

Yeah... Don't really Care what Sector you look at. Seems there is Always some who will put their hand out and are Willing to Say or Do what those who have the Gold want done.

And it does seem like that Some has grown Larger in my Lifetime.