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Children and E-Cigs.

Discussion in 'Law and the E-Cigarette' started by Titanium, Dec 10, 2012.

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  1. Titanium

    Titanium Moved On Verified Member

    Oct 19, 2012
    I do know of similar threads but I think this one is different.
    I have been reading a few news articles and stories about children buying and using E-Cigs and the news really make PV's sound like drug devices and it pisses me off because they LIE about stuff in the news articles.

    Now, I wouldn't have a problem with teens vaping IFthey were trying to quit smoking. But the reality is, most are just buying them to look "cool" or to "fit in" and that is unacceptable and will result in E-Cigs being banned altogether.

    If your child smokes, would you let them purchase/use them to quit?
    I, would make sure they don't start in the first place.
    These people need to just take them away from their children and not make a huge deal with: lawyers/news/etc.
    Anyways, thanks for taking time to reply.

    All the best,
  2. zapped

    zapped Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Some people are very liberal in their views on raising children and Im sure youre going to hear about it :)

    Personally, Im not trying to be my childs best friend and hang out with them so the answer is no.My house, my rules.Im the one paying rent.

    Might sound harsh to some people but my child will thank for me it after they reach a certain level of maturity and then its time to be friends.
  3. Titanium

    Titanium Moved On Verified Member

    Oct 19, 2012
    Well, I do see how you feel.
    But also, I don't see why you don't care for your child's health.
    No offense meant here.
    I did expect a few positive/negative replies.
    Thanks for your opinion.
  4. zapped

    zapped Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I do care for my childs health.I love that kid with all my heart thats why I'd kick his derriere if I found out he was smoking.At such an early stage I would be the one making the decision that he's quitting cold turkey and he wouldnt have any choice in the matter.

    Thankfully I dont have to worry about that with him.He's an athlete and has always been concerned about his physical well being. Hes always been the one whos shown concern about my smoking and is thrilled that Ive made the switch to something healthier.
  5. Titanium

    Titanium Moved On Verified Member

    Oct 19, 2012
    I see :D
  6. JimHarris

    JimHarris Full Member

    Dec 10, 2012
    An interesting conundrum. I think I would have to agree with zapped. If I ever caught my not-yet-existent kids smoking, I'd make the cold turkey decision for them. Vaping is a privilege and I don't think underaged kids should partake in it. Now, will they? Of course. It's human nature, especially in adolescence, to go after the things forbidden from you. You want your chance to beat the system. But I do think we have to be careful as a society. People need to understand that this is a healthier alternative to smoking, not just a way to look "cool"
  7. Petrodus

    Petrodus Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2010
    Obviously, we are talking about parents taking responsibility here.
    So much of this crazy mixed up world can be traced back to parents
    not taking responsibility and taking care of business at home.

    Parent's lack of responsibility and involvement with their children ...
    is at the root of many social issues (period)
  8. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 18, 2012
    near buffalo, NY
    honestly if i had kids, and caught them smoking...

    after i watched them chain smoke a pack of camel non filters and turn green then puke for days... i might let them vape. But under my control and supervision and they would be on a quit program not just switching from analogs to vaping like most of us. Now once they reach 18-19 and if they had their own $$ and wanted to vape fine with me. until rules.

    but this is reality, kids can get smokes, e cigs etc if they try. I started smoking at 15...(my god that was back in 1991...sheesh im old) i never once in my entire life got carded for smokes. its wrong and illegal that this happens, but theres not much you can do when the people selling them are not diligent and responsible enough to ask for I.D.
  9. CaffeineRush

    CaffeineRush Moved On

    Dec 4, 2012
    New York City
    Actually I remember reading an article saying that 50% of a person's personality/attitude is genetics, the rest is mostly external factors. Very little has to do with parenting at home. Unless you spend 8+ hours a day with your kid at home, there's very little influence a parent will have in how his child turns out.
  10. barbee865

    barbee865 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 5, 2011
    Knoxville, TN
    I can write an article proclaiming unicorns are real, and bigfoot was my next door neighbor. 90% of statistics are made up anyway. :evil:
  11. teggykid952

    teggykid952 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 3, 2013
    Auburn, Alabama
    I'm 19, been smoking for about three years. One night, when I was chilling with some of my car buddies at the local drag strip I was smoking, and my dad showed up unknown to me. He told me either I quit, or tell my mother who lost both of her parents to cigarette related cancer. I told him that I would quit but I never did. So, even if you or anyone else caught their child smoking and told them to stop, it's not set in stone that they will. Luckily I finally decided on my own accord to quit and it's been 5 days going strong. For right now these Blu's are doing their job until my X2 comes in
  12. meatcutter

    meatcutter Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2012
    pascagoula, ms
    I agree with zapped, recently caught my 16 year old with a pack of cigarettes in her car, of course they were not hers right lol. I have taken her car until summer. Sure its a burden on me and my wife taking her to work and school functions, but we sent a clear message. I was a smoker untill a few months ago, and she tried to justify them as I was being hypocritical, which in turn got her grounded for 2 weeks.
  13. daddytwigs

    daddytwigs Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2012
    New Hampshire
    But I learned it from watching you
  14. CanadianCow

    CanadianCow Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I was the child of parents who had the "smoke and I will skin you alive" and I still smoked. I also had friends who had parents who let their smoking teenagers smoke in the house. To be honest I don't know which parenting technique in regards to smoking was better.
  15. scabbytattoo

    scabbytattoo Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 18, 2012
    OK I think I can chime in on this as I'm young enough toe remember what it was like getting busted with smokes as a teen and now having a kid myself who is 5. If a kid wants to smoke they will find a way to do so with that tho once that fear is in you and you know your mom/dad will inconvenience themselves just to make a point you tend to hide it and not use them as much. Now as for helping them quit with a pv naw I don't think so the reason I went over was for health reasons but still liking nicotine and as an adult I can make that choice.
  16. Ardo

    Ardo Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2009
    Tallinn, Estonia
    I was in Canterbury, UK some years ago. A friend of mine, who hosted me lived near a high school. Kids didn't even bother walking out the school yard to light their cigarettes. I saw at least 20 kids smoking. And don't get me even started on underage drinking.

    Absolutely, they get that from whatever they are lacking in their homes.
  17. aaronkt

    aaronkt Moved On

    Jan 17, 2010
    Kansas City, MO
    I'd have to say if my daughter (who is a smoker and 18) came to me and asked me I would advise her no on a vapor. She needs to try and quit first without using this device. I'd rather buy her a patch or gum to help her then let her just pick this up.
  18. VapApe

    VapApe Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 6, 2011
    The gum or patch is not going to be much help if any. The fail rate is about 90%.
  19. Joshyjoshf

    Joshyjoshf Full Member Verified Member

    Dec 26, 2012
    United States
    Parents should keep an eye on their kids, and try to educate them on the risks of smoking, and the risks of vaping if they catch em doing it. I started smoking at 16, and three years later, found vaping, and made the switch almost effortlessly. I went from 1/2 pack a day, to vaping. My mother was mortified when she found out I was smoking though, but she was glad that I found a safer alternative.

    I don't think this should be a thing you let kids do though, but once they are adults, hell, if they wanna do it, that's their thing.

    I do worry about the flavors being a draw for kids, and that scares me, because I don't want the FDA taking away my sweet vapes.
  20. evolutionx

    evolutionx Senior Member

    Jan 2, 2013
    I hate that media argument...using the logic of banning something because kids get their hands on it...well, goodbye alcohol and tobacco cigarettes..seriously, the dumbest thing ever
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