Cloning The Milkman

[mod007]

What about a few drops of acetyl pyrazine to bring out the bread?

That might help reduce the amount of Pie Crust used but the bread taste is there, its just there's something missing at the moment of the bread note. Its hard to explain. Like maybe the sweetness of a breaded pop tart or the filling.
I tried Pie Crust at 6% and it seemed to overwhelm the recipe. I also tried adding 1% Graham Cracker. It seem to help but I could pick up on the Graham taste that doesn't seem to be there in milkman.

 

[mod007]

If they are making in house flavors, we probably will never nail this one exactly. Just hoping we can get ever so close at maybe a 20/80 mix.

 

[Jaypeeayy]

If they are making in house flavors, we probably will never nail this one exactly. Just hoping we can get ever so close at maybe a 20/80 mix.

I also tried raising the pie crust % to get more of that toasted taste but it just made the juice too... Rich. I've read there's a marshmallow flavoring that gives that toasted taste to it. Not sure what it is... But AiV has a liquid called "15 foot falls" which is like a smore and it has that unique "toasted" note as well.

We may not be able to replicate it exactly, but we can make a damn close enjoyable copy.

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[bonniegirl]

I still stand by the crunchberry for the toaster pastry
I have tasted it in my working mix.
added meringue and await the crock pot and breathing

 

[bonniegirl]

I am very interested in this "in house flavor making"..........the flavor chemist I know says it can only be done using oil essence and that is not suitable for vaping. I heard of a guy squeezing OJ into his juice......ACK!
I see a fungal pneumonia coming.
Where has the information come from that any vendor "makes their own flavors?" Does anyone have the info or is this rumor?

 

[mod007]

I don't see it directly from the horses mouth but its in plenty of other places that sell it.
Google Click the link.

 

[mod007]

I still stand by the crunchberry for the toaster pastry
I have tasted it in my working mix.
added meringue and await the crock pot and breathing

You maybe right as I have heard others say they tasted that exact flavor. Its one flavor that I have looked over when ordering. It will be in my cart on my next order for sure.

 

[bonniegirl]

Please....give me a link to one of these references that state vaping rabbit (or any vendor) are making in house flavors via distillation and extraction.
thank you....
in addition....I would never normally want that flavor either. I am no kid and don't care for tutti sweet vapes. The idea prompted me to order a tiny bottle.
my last test (number12) included 12 vials of 5 ml and that little bottle is wittling down. I have found too much takes it to sweet cereal. Tiny amounts lead taste to a ghost like poptart just like the original.
vape on!
Ps....meringue test looks and tastes promising. I also added a drop of van bean VZ.....gave layers more prominence.
will post my recipe as soon as it is polished and ready to be trolled, lol

 

[mod007]

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[Jaypeeayy]

Please....give me a link to one of these references that state vaping rabbit (or any vendor) are making in house flavors via distillation and extraction.
thank you....
in addition....I would never normally want that flavor either. I am no kid and don't care for tutti sweet vapes. The idea prompted me to order a tiny bottle.
my last test (number12) included 12 vials of 5 ml and that little bottle is wittling down. I have found too much takes it to sweet cereal. Tiny amounts lead taste to a ghost like poptart just like the original.
vape on!
Ps....meringue test looks and tastes promising. I also added a drop of van bean VZ.....gave layers more prominence.
will post my recipe as soon as it is polished and ready to be trolled, lol

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Read the description in the link. I've read that they make their own flavorings and distill their juices on other websites such as reddit and .................. as well.

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[Vaping Grammy]

I am very interested in this "in house flavor making"..........the flavor chemist I know says it can only be done using oil essence and that is not suitable for vaping. I heard of a guy squeezing OJ into his juice......ACK!
I see a fungal pneumonia coming.
Where has the information come from that any vendor "makes their own flavors?" Does anyone have the info or is this rumor?

I know that Nicoticket makes their own vanilla.

 

[mod007]

I still stand by the crunchberry for the toaster pastry
I have tasted it in my working mix.
added meringue and await the crock pot and breathing

I think at the moment of the toaster bread note, Crunch berry is whats missing. Looking forward to hearing how your last recipe turned out. I have tried several more things but I believe that I'm going to wait until I have Crunch berry before I do anymore.

 

[RobbieVape]

Been following this thread now for a couple of weeks, down to my last bottle of the real milkman and can't find any stocks in UK!!!! Aaarrrrggggghhhh was hoping a clone could be found to give me hope - hoping bonniegirl's latest try hits the nail on the head [emoji120]


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[bonniegirl]

well......updated milkman news

VZ vanilla ice cream is still out of stock. I do have a working facsimile that is nearly spot on. I have used FW vanilla ice cream in place of it. YES...there is a place for meringue in the recipe. Thanks to the suggestion posted above.

I continue to work on proportions but will share my latest....best rendition.
I NEVER post my clone or my own recipes. I am not a lover of argumentative discussion. This is my work after a month of trial and error. If you mix it and dont have anything constructive to say please don't' say it. If you never clone a recipe yourself and are lurking for a recipe to save yourself some money and don't think my recipe is close, save your words as you will not be constructive. Remember....I am old as dirt, been vaping since the stone age and I really don't care what anyone thinks. I am posting this to be nice. I am not satisfied as yet that it is a 1:1 but it will be very soon.

note: I use mls. anyone that counts drops, weighs grams or uses percentages please convert yourself
These amounts are for an ounce bottle and seek to replicate The Milkman by vaping rabbit not onehitwonder
Bonnies Milkman Test 10/12
VZcream .5ml
TFA milk .75ml
NF marshmallow.5ml (I used this for that overt sweetness and full mouth feeling)
FW Vanilla Ice cream 1.5ml
FA meringue .75 (I find it added that smooth finish compared to a test without it side by side)
VZ vanilla bean 5 drops
VZ crunchberries .25

note: I am presently deconstructing to determine exact proportions and try the elusive VZ VIC. The alcohol in the flavoring requires a good breathing and I found a 3 day steep in a cool dark place smoothed the creaminess out. Like most cream based flavors, the freshly made flavor is not the end result. Do bear in mind that a week of steeping is ideal. That is my experience with this bugger of a clone.

Any input or thoughts are greatly appreciated. Negative thoughts not helpful unless they contain a solution by an experienced DIYer.

my thoughts......
- I had a whimsical thought of adding a tiny (ie:.2 or .3) condensed milk to add sweet full creamy note but have been tweeking the base cream.
-had another thought to add a tiny amount of plain crunch flavor to add that exhaled toasted cream note. Tried toasted marshmallow and it was dirty sock yuck.
-I am not committed to any one brand, I tried to use VG to replicate the original VG percentage (still unconvinced about "in house flavors) I do feel the alcohol lends a flavor note that is needed in the recipe.
- I am certain of VZ cream, crunchberry and milk. I preferred the recipe with LA marshmallow myself.....just tried to be true to the blend numbers.

-the minute I added the meringue I KNEW it was an ingredient or replicated another ingredient(s) 0f the original

Good luck and I await suggestions
Vape ON!

 

[Jaypeeayy]

well......updated milkman news

VZ vanilla ice cream is still out of stock. I do have a working facsimile that is nearly spot on. I have used FW vanilla ice cream in place of it. YES...there is a place for meringue in the recipe. Thanks to the suggestion posted above.

I continue to work on proportions but will share my latest....best rendition.
I NEVER post my clone or my own recipes. I am not a lover of argumentative discussion. This is my work after a month of trial and error. If you mix it and dont have anything constructive to say please don't' say it. If you never clone a recipe yourself and are lurking for a recipe to save yourself some money and don't think my recipe is close, save your words as you will not be constructive. Remember....I am old as dirt, been vaping since the stone age and I really don't care what anyone thinks. I am posting this to be nice. I am not satisfied as yet that it is a 1:1 but it will be very soon.

note: I use mls. anyone that counts drops, weighs grams or uses percentages please convert yourself
These amounts are for an ounce bottle and seek to replicate The Milkman by vaping rabbit not onehitwonder
Bonnies Milkman Test 10/12
VZcream .5ml
TFA milk .75ml
NF marshmallow.5ml (I used this for that overt sweetness and full mouth feeling)
FW Vanilla Ice cream 1.5ml
FA meringue .75 (I find it added that smooth finish compared to a test without it side by side)
VZ vanilla bean 5 drops
VZ crunchberries .25

note: I am presently deconstructing to determine exact proportions and try the elusive VZ VIC. The alcohol in the flavoring requires a good breathing and I found a 3 day steep in a cool dark place smoothed the creaminess out. Like most cream based flavors, the freshly made flavor is not the end result. Do bear in mind that a week of steeping is ideal. That is my experience with this bugger of a clone.

Any input or thoughts are greatly appreciated. Negative thoughts not helpful unless they contain a solution by an experienced DIYer.

my thoughts......
- I had a whimsical thought of adding a tiny (ie:.2 or .3) condensed milk to add sweet full creamy note but have been tweeking the base cream.
-had another thought to add a tiny amount of plain crunch flavor to add that exhaled toasted cream note. Tried toasted marshmallow and it was dirty sock yuck.
-I am not committed to any one brand, I tried to use VG to replicate the original VG percentage (still unconvinced about "in house flavors) I do feel the alcohol lends a flavor note that is needed in the recipe.
- I am certain of VZ cream, crunchberry and milk. I preferred the recipe with LA marshmallow myself.....just tried to be true to the blend numbers.

-the minute I added the meringue I KNEW it was an ingredient or replicated another ingredient(s) 0f the original

Good luck and I await suggestions
Vape ON!

Thank you for sharing your own recipe when you usually don't! I'm going to make an order of these flavorings next paycheck and give it a try then comment on it.

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[robinwersonst]

Hello

Which is now the best Clone Recipe from your Ideas that you have postet for the milkman clone?

Best Regards

 

[bonniegirl]

Here is my finished recipe...................

Ingredients
Nicotine base (50mg/ml, 0/100) 0% 0.00ml
PG -16.9% -5.07ml
VG 95% 28.50ml
1.5% 0.45ml NF marshmallow 3.5% 1.05ml VZ (SC) cream 7% 2.10ml TFA Dairy /milk

7% 2.10ml FW vanilla Bean Ice Cream 1.5% 0.45ml TFA crunchberries

0.7% 0.21ml FW captain crunch 0.7% 0.21ml FA condensed milk

Requires a week of steeping. Despite the fact that the original is 99%.....I am happy with this rendition.

Tweaks, comments and constructive criticism welcome if it is constructive,

hope you enjoy as much as I do.

 

[bonniegirl]

a side note
Ordered Milkman from onehitwonder......not for me. Nothing like the Milkman I have tried to clone
Had to go to zero nic as I had milkman headache. Now I can have as much as I want!!!

 

[robinwersonst]

Okey
Thank you
I have Question to the flavour from your new recipe... what is VZ SC which flavour is it?and what is the flavour NF?
Best Regards

 

[Jaypeeayy]

Okey
Thank you
I have Question to the flavour from your new recipe... what is VZ SC which flavour is it?and what is the flavour NF?
Best Regards

VZ SC = Vaping Zone's sweet cream

NF = Nature's Flavors

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