Ethyl Maltol crystals question.

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  1. Jack Pappas

    Jack Pappas Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I just ordered an ounce of the Ethyl Maltol crystals and was hoping to get some tips on how much to add to liquids.

    TFA says "These can be dissolved in alcohol or Propylene Glycol @ 10%. (use a little heat)". But I find myself stymied on how to figure out how much of a dry crystal to add to a liquid to equal 10%. Liquid to liquid I understand. A cc in my syringe into a 10 ml bottle and I have 10%. But I haven't seen anything on this particular issue for all my hunting.
     
  2. bace a flunt

    bace a flunt Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I'd just add the crystals and shake to 10ml until they stop dissolving.
     
  3. michaelsil1

    michaelsil1 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    You could weigh out one gram of crystals put it the bottle and fill to the 10ml mark
     
  4. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    This question always pops up and always leads to a debate. According to Wizard Labs, 1/8tsp dissolved in 10ml of PG will result in a 10% EM solution. Some people have reported having problems getting the crystals to stay in suspension, but, knock on wood, it's worked for me every time I mix it. I do have to heat it, carefully, in the microwave and agitate it several times to get it all to dissolve, but it works for me.
     
  5. Jack Pappas

    Jack Pappas Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks for the responses.

    I'm a curious sort. So I guess my next step after it arrives is to take an 1/8tsp and see if it weighs one gram...
     
  6. montara

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    Crush the crystal to powder and add to warm PG. Makes the devolve process so much quicker.
     
  7. LarryPer

    LarryPer Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I was going to post the same topic
    I just got Chrystals today too
    Now how the hell do I divide my table spoon into 8 sections??
     
  8. michaelsil1

    michaelsil1 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    A Tablespoon is bigger than a Teaspoon
     
  9. jclifford

    jclifford Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    an earlier post a couple of months ago said 1 gram to 17 ml.

    I put it in a warm ultrasonic, went into solution 5 minutes.
     
  10. michaelsil1

    michaelsil1 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    I just read the ecig site and it said mix one gram EM Crystals in 9ml PG
     
  11. bace a flunt

    bace a flunt Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yeah just get a scale... I'm sure you can find a .1 gram scale for 5 or 10 bucks on amazon/ebay.
     
  12. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    See what I mean about a debate?
     
  13. jclifford

    jclifford Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    that's funny, sort of like the blind leading the blind?
     
  14. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I can't see that last post....
     
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  16. DrewGrimey

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    I was told 1/4 teaspoon of crystals to 10ml pg... is that correct?
     
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    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I mis-spoke in my original post, it is 1/2 teaspoon in 10ml of PG. Sorry if I've confused anyone.
     
  18. bace a flunt

    bace a flunt Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    That sounds like a lot.
     
  19. Ta2ooz

    Ta2ooz Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    i mix mine at 1/4 teaspoon in 10ml, fill a cereal bowl with hot tap water and let sit until you can take it out, may have to do it once or twice but it will dissolve and stay that way...pg or vg
     
  20. RobertNC

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    I strongly agree with the poster who said get a scale. A small set can be had on ebay for a song, and I would not use anything else. I suggest you make 5% solutions. The MSDS/Tech Data on EM states 7.7% solubility in PG. I use 50-50 PG/VG, the solubility in that is much lower. I make ~5% solutions and yes it takes a while to dissolve but they are clear and stabel over a long time and temperature range.

    It is worth the minor effort to use weights instead of teaspoons. I don't make a true 5% solution because I weigh 0.5 gm EM and then just add 10 mL 50-50 PG/VG, but in DIY, reproducibility and consistency are what counts not whether you have a analytical chemists' definition of a true 5% solution.
     
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