eVic-VT mini?

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Benwa

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What does the resistance read on your ni200 OCCs? Mine would always read around 0.23 even though they were labeled 0.15. These were vertical ones.
I'm still using the horizontal nickel coils boxer. But I've been through 4 now and they range from 0.16 (went down as low as 0.12) through to 0.18 but none of them stayed at what they started at even when locked
 
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If mine were driving 11w to the coil in TC I wouldn't get much of any vapor, with a moderate draw on my super tank using a .15 ohm Ni200 coil the happy place is 30-35w to the coil and holding at about .38 or .39 ohm while pulling for flavor, vapor and a little warmth. Now when it reads the coil at .13 it tops out at 17-19ish watts to the coil when maxed at 600/315 so at .13 even max temp gives some vapor no warmth barely any flavor. At least I am still able to use the device, it was fairly easy this time to lock in at .14 where I can get a decent vape at 570-600, yes it's not calibrated right because tapping fire still reads 180ish degrees cold but it works and never refines down to .12 so whatever.

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Sorry misunderstanding I'm at 75watts set but after initial boost it hovers around the 11 mark to control the temp as it's supposed to do. So if I'm reading you right your getting a resistance drop of .25!? That seems an awful lot and something definately not right there
 
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Can somebody explain how a mods power is limited by software and not by hardware?
I mean, of course it's easy to tell the chip not to allow more, i'm asking more of a "if the hardware was made to handle 75, why wasn't it 75 in the first place" question.
Shame, no word about tc improvements. My vtc should be here this week, i'll try it with no updates, then with 1.10 and i'll put 1.2 only if it won't work correctly as a last resort.
 

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Good morning to everyone ( I'm in the uk). All is right in the world and I'm a happy man for the time being. Left the mini over night and she still vaping great this morning. Quick recap as I've been using it for last couple of days in power mode with some kanthal builds. Originally I tried various titanium builds and ego mega with clr ti coils and no matter what I did it would work fine until the first sleep. Upon wake up I would see a lower base resistance by about .04 ohm regardless of locking it in or not and the temp when first firing would show much higher that it should considering it had been idle and immediately hit the temp ceiling. Now I mean immediately no delay at all in fact if you blinked you missed the starting temp and saw the temp protect message. This caused the anemic vape and the watts while firing would be between 0-5w so I would have to raise the temperature ridiculously high or remove atty, fire, replace atty and choose new coil and lower temp or it would burn instantly.

Ok ran the 1.2 firmware last night and put on ego mega with clr ti coil which I had rebuilt with some 26g gr1 ti wire which came in at .36ohm. I set it to 230°c with the full 75W available as it's my understanding that with tc you need to get that coil up to temp as quickly as possible to get the best experiance. It did what it was supposed to do, temp rose sharply to 230°c within 2-3 seconds and displayed temp protect then the watts dropped off and bounced around between 10-20w maintaining the temp around 227-230°c resulting in a warm, rich clean vape. Ok so now the test, I put it down and left it for 10 mins and waited in anticipation. When I picked it up quick press of the fire button showed the resistance had dropped by .02ohm down to .34ohm, oh no I thought here we go again but the temperature that it displayed with that quick press showed 45°c not the usual 185°c I had been accustomed to seeing after a sleep. Vaped it and hallelujah it was working right on the money but not quite as good as b4 the resistance drop so raised it 10° to 240°c and there it was perfect, for me anyway. Im now of the belief that the initial .02ohm drop is down to some sort of refinement process similar to dna40 board as It has stayed rock solid all morning, even after a refill and forgetting to lock in the resistance b4 taking tank off. I got the new/same message went left/same and bang .34 ohm same vape.

I would like to think it was down to the firmware update which I had to run twice as it semi bricked after the first attempt but I've been running in power mode for a week previously and disassembled it a few times so can't be 100% sure it was but fingers crossed this is a fix. Got a lot more playing about to do with more builds etc but this is progress.
 
Can somebody explain how a mods power is limited by software and not by hardware?
I mean, of course it's easy to tell the chip not to allow more, i'm asking more of a "if the hardware was made to handle 75, why wasn't it 75 in the first place" question.
Gotta love that Chinese business model (not saying others are any better).
Shame, no word about tc improvements. My vtc should be here this week, i'll try it with no updates, then with 1.10 and i'll put 1.2 only if it won't work correctly as a last resort.
"What TC problem? There is no problem!"
 

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Can somebody explain how a mods power is limited by software and not by hardware?
I mean, of course it's easy to tell the chip not to allow more, i'm asking more of a "if the hardware was made to handle 75, why wasn't it 75 in the first place" question.
Shame, no word about tc improvements. My vtc should be here this week, i'll try it with no updates, then with 1.10 and i'll put 1.2 only if it won't work correctly as a last resort.

My guess is they always build in over heads with tech so there just reducing the safety margins. Joyetech have a history of doing this. My egrip went from 20 to 30 watts with the press of a few buttons but it drastically altered the power curve and didn't like it as even with the clr coils and modding the airflow it was dry hit central above 15w. I'm wondering if this increased power on the mini with v1.2 also contains revised power and temperature curves!?
 

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My guess is they always build in over heads with tech so there just reducing the safety margins. Joyetech have a history of doing this. My egrip went from 20 to 30 watts with the press of a few buttons but it drastically altered the power curve and didn't like it as even with the clr coils and modding the airflow it was dry hit central above 15w. I'm wondering if this increased power on the mini with v1.2 also contains revised power and temperature curves!?
upgraded to the 1.20 this morning I have not noticed a difference yet
 

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Excellent glad to here I'm not the only one, I was starting to think I'm imaging things lol.
Granted I never had a device that was unusable for TC like some. More of an annoyance with constant temperature adjustments trying to keep up with the schizophrenic refinement process.
 

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Hi, ok so your device is still having issues then?
haven't had any issues with my VTC but just got it the other day
I did have issues with my VT but not the VTC
Sorry misread your post I quoted
The Ramping of power at least in Temp mode did not appear to change for me from the 1.10 to the 1.20
 

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Ok cool well credit where credit is deserved you and Defdock came up with a good plan as egrip only thing for me that stands up to being on site all day just the battery lets it down. Yeah it's in the queue for review, it not a bad looking device but bigger in the hand than I expected Or Mr b has really small hands!
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http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/2015/10/05/new-in-the-queue-kanger-nebox/
  • Wont be compatible with Square OCCs, Uses Smaller round OCCs
  • Compatible with NI200 and Ti in TC & SS OCCs in non TC
  • No airflow adjustment; Airflow described as fairly open
  • airflow may not suit MTL
  • 18650 bottom inserted with coin slot screw cap
  • Atomizer base screws in bottom with knurled edges and coin slot cap
  • Looks like fill is remove atty/Base, then bottom fill
  • Tank is not removable for cleaning
Thanks for the heads up on the Nebox being in the queue--Very informative and somewhat surprising. Size is smaller than I expected. Fully expected the atty base to have a knurled airflow ring on it with cyclops air holes that only had limited travel - like an EGO One Mega Tank ring so it could be turned in and out easily and still be adjusted. Never expected no airflow control at all or that it would use yet another type of proprietary coils. I don't really think this airflow will be like a wide open subtank mini and that GUI looks pretty darn primitive. One would think upgradeable firmware is not incorporated and SS TC mode will never happen.

Starting to think this isn't gonna check all my boxes for a durable work mod after all. Just hope they scare the hell out of Joyetech and spur them to modify the egrip by using the evic vtc Control panel, 18650 battery 10 ml tank, with airflow at least comparable to the Ego One Mega tank with the 0.5 CL coils in it.

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haven't had any issues with my VTC but just got it the other day
I did have issues with my VT but not the VTC
Sorry misread your post I quoted
The Ramping of power at least in Temp mode did not appear to change for me from the 1.10 to the 1.20

I get you now so I've not tried it in power mode yet after update. I'm scared I might break it in tc mode and would be back to square one with it! Lol
 
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