Max-Nivel with dual 1800mAh, 20C lipo batts for loooong vape times between charges!
Nivel v1.81 updates and changes...
Sweeeeeeet. Nice video mamu, and Max is gorgeous!!
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Sweeeeeeet. Nice video mamu, and Max is gorgeous!!
Thanks, breaktru and Russ!
RED Max is indeed sweet!
What I found is Max with the dual 1800mAh, 20C lipo batts and the low internal resistance is exactly what I need to vape the Nivel at 15 watts and not get a sag in load. woohoo!! I am totally happy about that.
I did the no load/load for the 18650 AW IMR batt (didn’t show it in the video though) and at higher watts it was getting a sag in load of 0.4v - 0.5v. gawd – that’s horrible and surprising that the AW batt would sag that much under load. But it is only 5C, whereas the batts I have in Max is 20C and with higher mAh.
RED Max is indeed sweet!
What I found is Max with the dual 1800mAh, 20C lipo batts and the low internal resistance is exactly what I need to vape the Nivel at 15 watts and not get a sag in load. woohoo!! I am totally happy about that.
I did the no load/load for the 18650 AW IMR batt (didn’t show it in the video though) and at higher watts it was getting a sag in load of 0.4v - 0.5v. gawd – that’s horrible and surprising that the AW batt would sag that much under load. But it is only 5C, whereas the batts I have in Max is 20C and with higher mAh.
Thanks, breaktru and Russ!
RED Max is indeed sweet!
What I found is Max with the dual 1800mAh, 20C lipo batts and the low internal resistance is exactly what I need to vape the Nivel at 15 watts and not get a sag in load. woohoo!! I am totally happy about that.
I did the no load/load for the 18650 AW IMR batt (didn’t show it in the video though) and at higher watts it was getting a sag in load of 0.4v - 0.5v. gawd – that’s horrible and surprising that the AW batt would sag that much under load. But it is only 5C, whereas the batts I have in Max is 20C and with higher mAh.
Nice! How do lower mAh lipo batts do under load?
That's hard to answer just going by the mAh of the batt as the mAh just tells you how long the batt will last while running a load at a specific current draw.
For example, you could have two lipo batts each with 1000mAh - one has a 2C discharge rating (able to handle up to 2A drain under load) and the other has a 10C discharge rating (able to handle up to 10A drain under load). In our vv/vw mods that need high drain batts where we're drawing 3 or more amps, the lipo with the 10C rating is going to handle the load and with less strain vs the lipo with the 2C rating, but both have the same mAh. The 2C lipo will be stressed to handle current drain at 2A and above and will not be safe.
You could also have a 1000mAh lipo batt that has a high internal resistance vs a 1000mAh lipo batt with a low internal resistance. No matter the discharge rating or even if both have the same discharge rating, the lipo with the lowest internal resistance will produce less voltage drop under load than the higher internal resistance batt. And as batts age and with repeated charges, the internal resistance rises.
Under load voltage drop also depends on the power setting (vaping at higher watts will have a higher voltage drop under load vs vaping at lower watts). When vaping at higher watts you really need a batt that has a high discharge rating and also low internal resistance to minimally affect the current drain and voltage drop under load.
Things like that - discharge rating of the batt, internal resistance of the batt, and power setting - can cause loaded voltage differences.
ETA: need to add sub ohm coils to that list too.
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Tera-Nivel
Smaller than Stealthy and with more mAh than Lexi. How cool is that?
Tera-Nivel has a royal blue anodized aluminum case (66mm x 30mm x 27mm) and 1600mAh, 24A lipo pack (two 800mAh, 15C lipos in parallel).
I hadn't made a Nivel mod in a while and it was just really nice to re-visit the Nivel and work with it. It's totally the easiest modder's board to work with - prewired and no external parts other than an optional LED. With less parts and less cutouts in the case, shorter build time.
This Tera is already dibbed by one of my sons, but he won't get it til I vape with it a few charges. I've got it on the charger now giving the batts the first charge. Will be interesting to see how many minutes I get with vape time - I get 22 minutes with Lexi's 1500mAh batt, so should get a bit more with Tera's 1600mAh.
With these tiny mods, I use SMD fuses (2 in parallel for ~ 6A hold, 10A trip)... don't drop one else you'll never find it... ask me how I know.
Ready for the build...
It all fits... just barely (it's called creative packing)...
pretty...
Size comparison with Stealthy and Lexi... dang - look how big Lexi looks and it's not a big mod at all...
Smaller than Stealthy and with more mAh than Lexi. How cool is that?
Tera-Nivel has a royal blue anodized aluminum case (66mm x 30mm x 27mm) and 1600mAh, 24A lipo pack (two 800mAh, 15C lipos in parallel).
I hadn't made a Nivel mod in a while and it was just really nice to re-visit the Nivel and work with it. It's totally the easiest modder's board to work with - prewired and no external parts other than an optional LED. With less parts and less cutouts in the case, shorter build time.
This Tera is already dibbed by one of my sons, but he won't get it til I vape with it a few charges. I've got it on the charger now giving the batts the first charge. Will be interesting to see how many minutes I get with vape time - I get 22 minutes with Lexi's 1500mAh batt, so should get a bit more with Tera's 1600mAh.
With these tiny mods, I use SMD fuses (2 in parallel for ~ 6A hold, 10A trip)... don't drop one else you'll never find it... ask me how I know.
Ready for the build...
It all fits... just barely (it's called creative packing)...
pretty...
Size comparison with Stealthy and Lexi... dang - look how big Lexi looks and it's not a big mod at all...
Packaging is amazingly, once again looks pro, the hole cuts boggling brain here, lazer perfect.
Have two Nivel mods from Fazed and love them!! All of your work is beautiful. I hope to have one of your creations one day!!!Tera-Nivel
Smaller than Stealthy and with more mAh than Lexi. How cool is that?
Tera-Nivel has a royal blue anodized aluminum case (66mm x 30mm x 27mm) and 1600mAh, 24A lipo pack (two 800mAh, 15C lipos in parallel).
I hadn't made a Nivel mod in a while and it was just really nice to re-visit the Nivel and work with it. It's totally the easiest modder's board to work with - prewired and no external parts other than an optional LED. With less parts and less cutouts in the case, shorter build time.
This Tera is already dibbed by one of my sons, but he won't get it til I vape with it a few charges. I've got it on the charger now giving the batts the first charge. Will be interesting to see how many minutes I get with vape time - I get 22 minutes with Lexi's 1500mAh batt, so should get a bit more with Tera's 1600mAh.
With these tiny mods, I use SMD fuses (2 in parallel for ~ 6A hold, 10A trip)... don't drop one else you'll never find it... ask me how I know.
Ready for the build...
It all fits... just barely (it's called creative packing)...
pretty...
Size comparison with Stealthy and Lexi... dang - look how big Lexi looks and it's not a big mod at all...
Both press fit in place and then epoxy.
It's a fuse that another modder shared with us in either the Milo thread or the Stealthy thread. I think DrMa?
The part number is MINISMDC260F/16-2. You can find the best price by going to octopart.com and typing in the part number to find distributors. I bought the ones I have at digikey.com.
I solder 2 together in parallel. I have to use tweezers to do that. ugh.
Both press fit in place and then epoxy.
It's a fuse that another modder shared with us in either the Milo thread or the Stealthy thread. I think DrMa?
The part number is MINISMDC260F/16-2. You can find the best price by going to octopart.com and typing in the part number to find distributors. I bought the ones I have at digikey.com.
I solder 2 together in parallel. I have to use tweezers to do that. ugh.
Mamu
You mentioned holding down the tiny SMD components with tweezers. Here’s something I’ve used for years when working with very small items that I wanted to stay in place in tight spaces. CA glue works very well, but applying the glue in a very small area was always a challenge without having it flood everywhere! My solution may be right up your alley (quilters). Clip off the end of a sewing needle eyelet dip in thin CA glue and use a steady hand. The sewing machine needles shown that have a slot and are the largest I use and hold more fluid but I also go down as small as a glover’s needle. The capillary action of the eyelet acts like the old quill ink pens. One can get in very tight spaces without a big mess.
Just to clarify! The CA glue is not used on the solder pads but only on the belly of the component to hold it in place till it's soldered down. Sorry for any confusion. 
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Mamu
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Mamu
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