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Somewhat muted flavor from an RDA compared to a tank

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomizer Systems' started by Jumberlack, Dec 18, 2016.

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  1. Jumberlack

    Jumberlack Full Member

    Feb 5, 2016
    i have a wotofo atty cubed rda and a tfv8 baby tank. i'm getting worse flavor from the rda with a dual twisted 26g coils. why is that? what could i be doing wrong? i could post a picture of my build if it might help. im fairly new to building.
     
  2. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Hi mate,
    How did you build the smok?
    Picture of each build is a great start.
    Details about each would also help; Watts, resistance, wire type,wicking etc. Same juice?

    Cheers
    I
     
  3. Jumberlack

    Jumberlack Full Member

    Feb 5, 2016
    the tfv8 baby is using the manufacturer's T8-core coil (0.15 ohms), i didn't rebuild it. i'm running that at 70 watts.

    the RDA is using a 26g twisted 0.28 ohms dual coil, using japanese organic cotton and running at about 80 watts. both are using the same juice for the comparison.

    here's a pic of the build (idk how to insert it into thread) imgur.com/a/4mhjB
     
  4. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
    Just look at the RDA... how in the world do you expect to get the same flavor... no sir!! The cube is a clods chucker, not a flavor RDA


     
  5. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
  6. Jumberlack

    Jumberlack Full Member

    Feb 5, 2016
    i don't really see what the difference is for an RDA...aside from the style and build quality the only thing that seems to make a difference is the coil build. what's different about a flavor and cloud rda?
     
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  7. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
    There's a big difference brother...
    Cloud RDAS have chuff caps,too much af, big chamber designed...

    Flavor RDAS have smaller chambers designed, not to much airflow and they are shorter, like the
    Sapor rda, vector rda royal hunter, and many, derringer etc.....more..

    with the cube I suggest use the 510 adapter use less AIRFLOW.. adjust wattage as you go...


     
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  8. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
  9. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
    There's a big difference
    Flavor RDAS are
    Shorter
    Smaller inner chamber
    Not a lot of airflow...
    Examples
    Vector,sapor,royal hunter,derringer and so many more...

    I suggest using the 510 adapter
    Use less airflow
    Lower or ohms
    And use less airflow
    Adjust wattage to your liking..


     
  10. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
  11. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
    There's a big difference
    Flavor RDAS are
    Shorter
    Smaller inner chamber
    Not a lot of airflow...
    Examples
    Vector,sapor,royal hunter,derringer and so many more...

    I suggest using the 510 adapter
    Use less airflow
    Lower or ohms
    And use less airflow
    Adjust wattage to your liking..


     
  12. Jumberlack

    Jumberlack Full Member

    Feb 5, 2016
    thanks for the tips, i have tried using the 510 adapter and less airflow and the flavor is slightly improved but still less than my tfv8 baby which i'm surpised about since pretty much any RDA should have better flavor than a tank
     
  13. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
    Not true... if you want to get that cube to give you more flavor, you have to use different coils, you have to find that perfect build for you and the rda... EXPERIMENT ON IT!
    Consider the following when building coils
    Rda
    Wire type nichrome,kanthal, ss, ni80 etc...
    Tc/power
    Pg/VG
    Flavor profile of the jooze
    Is it sweet,tangy,tart,sour,nutty, etccc all those have to be considered...now, if you are not flavor chaser like me, you wouldn't know any difference as long as you CLOUDZ BRO!
    You get better with time, and vaping is SUBJECTIVE!
    adnavced vapers/BUILDERS we all know this... you just don't slap a twisted 26 and expect to be great or the same..
    I don't use CLEAROS ANYMORE, the last SOT I had was the arctic V1... and I agree the beast by smok is a flavor monster!!!
    I don't like buying coil heads..


     
  14. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
  15. Two_Bears

    Two_Bears Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 4, 2015
    Northern Arizona

    You're not doing anything wrong. Most RDAs are cloud chasers.

    If you want a flavor chaser; get a

    Darang
    Freakshow Mini
    Rogue
    Stumpy
    Bambino
    Snub nose
    Mako Shorty.

    Tanks and RTAs have a very small Chamber where tge vapor can't really expand till it gets to your mouth.

    Since RDAs don't have a small Chamber you can stimulate it by using a short RDA.

    The freakshow Mini is only 19 mm tall not counting 510 and drip tip.

    The Derringer and others listed above is even shorter.
     
  16. 93gc40

    93gc40 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2014
    California
    The difference between you tank and the RDA cones down to the air... air flow vs air volume and the affects of one on the other... both atties might have close to same flow.... but that does not mean they have the same capacity for mixing air with vaporized juice. In both cases the incoming air pushes the vapor out the tip... Ok. But in the atty with the bigger chamber there is more time and space inside the chamber for mixing and dilution of the flavors with the air.

    I would try a build on the RDA that is a little faster and hotter for the RDA next time. I would also try to not shrink the build if anything I would try to find a wire combination that would increase surface area.

    Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
     
  17. RiderVapor

    RiderVapor Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 9, 2015
    Learned something new over this past month about my wicking material, was using KGD organic. Went to using organic cotton balls from Walgreen's and got a lot better flavor from it and lasting longer as well.
     
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  18. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
    Yuck! Try cotton bacon


     
  19. RiderVapor

    RiderVapor Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 9, 2015
    I tried Cotton Bacon V2, did nothing for me. Just was a little shocked when running regular old cotton balls from Walgreens to find out the flavor got a lot better.
     
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  20. ej1024

    ej1024 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2014
    usa
    Really? Hmmm let me check it out.


     
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