People have reactions to different things. I don't know why silica would be the culprit either. Glad you were able to have an enjoyable day of vaping today.
OK. Here's my
There really aren't many things about an e-cig that shouldn't be of concern, and that concern increases as one advances into Mods... safe Batteries, safe Chargers, safe E-Liquids, safe Wicks, safe E-Liquid Tanks, safe Coil materials, safe... everything. I am absolutely not an alarmist, and I certainly don't say this to scare you (or anyone else), but the Safety Factor is of great concern to me. ECF has been a great resource of information, and I have researched every area of concern to me, and start new research every time I hear of something new to me. Many of those concerns have been debunked, and others have been minimized by finding the Safest Alternatives I could find. Silica Shards are nothing new to me.
I see nothing wrong with Litcube wanting to investigate, and either confirm or dispel this Silica Wick concern to his satisfaction. I see nothing wrong with his stated motives. I actually applaud him, and anyone else who wants to do a Scientific Study. But there are right ways and wrong ways to do it. A good Scientist sets a thesis (like Silica Wicks can be Harmful), and then sets out to disprove it, by any and all means possible. If he/she can't disprove it, then it would be prudent to initiate further study into how any harm could be minimized. Another excellent Scientific Practice is that the same study is repeated by many Scientists, and possibly (hopefully) Scientists from various Disciplines, to take into account the various methods (and budgets) that may be available to some and not others. So while one particular Scientist may reach a conclusion, it doesn't become Gospel until that same conclusion has been reached throughout the Scientific Community. All done by people who fully understand what they're working with, in this case, e-cigs; the actual e-cig products and various designs, the actual use of e-cigs, and the practices of e-cigs users, under actual proper use conditions. While we wait...
To me, the Safety Factor where Silica Wicks are concerned is actually how bad the Silica Shards might get when the Wick gets too Dry. A Wet Silica Wick will most likely not produce Shards, but the Dry Burn probably will. The majority of E-Liquid Storage Systems do not allow one to see how much E-Liquid remains available to the Atomizer, which IMO greatly increases the likelihood of a Dry Silica Wick, and therefore, a Dry Burn that is inhaled. This is why I insist on having a Clear Tank that I can easily see through. I currently use the Vivi Nova.
Before anyone decides to attack me, let me say that I fully understand that as the E-Liquid supply runs out, the e-cig user is going to notice the Vapor and/or Flavor is fading. And understand this. When the Wick is soaked, the Coil cannot get hot enough to glow red, but as the Wick starts to get Dryer, either from the Supply running out, or from the Wick not being able to keep up with the user, as it continues, the Coil is going to start getting hotter and hotter in the middle, and as the E-Liquid Supply continues to be diminished, it will start glowing red in larger and larger proportions, potentially scorching the Silica Wick. Will the user notice the diminished performance before this happens? Can any of you say, absolutely, every time, 100% of the time? I really don't think you can.
So Litcube, do your study, but do it well, and don't disappoint us. It has been pointed out that there are different Wicking Configurations between the available designs that incorporate Silica Wicks, and while it's important to study the Wet Wick, I think it's just as important to study the entire range of wicking situations, from Fully Wet, to Fully Dry, with small steps in between, and to learn at what point any Shards begin to be delivered into the Vapor Stream, if at all. And... if you're going to do it at all, then do it with as many Atomizer designs as possible, including Cartomizers of various designs, and the various Tank designs that use Silica Wicks, like the Vivi Nova, and others. Big Wicks (2-3mm diameters), Medium Wicks (1-2mm diameters), Skinny Wicks (less than or equal to 1mm diameters), Multiple Stand Wicks, in any and all Silica Wick compositions (there can't be only one type of Silica Wick on the market). Then, it would have to be considered that any Shards found coming from Cartomizers will have to be further studied to see if they are emitted from the Wick, or maybe the Fiberglass Tube (in some designs) that covers and feeds the Coil, or the Filler Materials.
I have no doubt that you can create a situation where Shards can be released. It's already been done. But how does that relate to actual e-cig use?, in current Atomizer designs?, under normal usage situations? If it relates, then yet another area of study is required. It's also already been asked (considering the possibility that any Shards are released as related to e-cig use) if this would actually be enough to cause a problem, and if so, then over what kind of time frame. Yet another study. Though I'd be satisfied for the time being with an unbiased professional opinion, from someone who's an actual e-cig user, while we wait and wait for these studies.
So, if this first kind of project is too big for you (let alone the continued follow-up studies), then maybe you should accept the previously established results and pass the torch to someone else. But don't let me stop you. Do what you can to satisfy your own curiosities.
No matter what, we're better off with e-cigs than their traditional brethren. But that's me.
Mmm... I would put this in the same category as stripping and having to rewax asbestos containing floor tile.
Huh? You say what has this got to do with that? I have to say that I am no expert in this field, but in a way it looks similar to me.
I spent many many years as a school custodian, then head custodian, then custodial supervisor. Many of the schools had the older asbestos containing floor tile. It is a very expensive process to have the tiles replaced and has to be done by professional crews. But the school system was having them replaced as they could afford to.
Now here is the indirect correlation. Asbestos while in the tile is not dangerous. What/when makes the asbestos dangerous is when it becomes airborne. Then it is dangerous and a known carcinogen. The floors still had to be taken care of and kept waxed. Waxing helped seal the asbestos in, plus of course gives you that nice shine. Wax yellows with age so stripping and rewaxing is a given. The key to safety was while stripping with a buff machine it was important to keep the floor tile WET. If wet, the asbestos cannot become airborne to become a danger. You keep it wet even while rinsing and cleaning the stripping solution off. Then with the machines off the floor area being done you let it dry. Then you immediately apply new coats of wax using a mop, keeping the heavy machinery away. Keeping the tile WET is the key.
I hope I have not lost anyone with my analogy. But by my thinking are you not keeping the wicks wet? Does not that help with keeping the shards from becoming airborne? Would the majority of the shards remain suspended in the liquid and gotten rid of when you rinse your carto out?
If a study is ever done they would need to do it properly as someone pointed out. Do NOT test the wicks. But the vapor itself. Of course if you break a DRY wick apart it becomes friable and airborne. Test the VAPOR only with the cartos with liquid in it with the wicks wet.
Just something for peeps to think on and my two cents.
Forgive me for jumping pages here, but I have to break down this comparison. The reason that wet asbestos isn't dangerous is because when wet it doesn't become an airborne particulate that one would breathe into the lungs. Though the silica wicks may be wet, this doesn't satisfy the same safety standard as wet asbestos because we are in fact breathing the vapor that comes directly off of the wet wick.
Amirite?
But what about a person who has been vaping for nearly four years?Non-permanent minor lung irritants from silica particles are not really high priority issues to someone who has the better part of a pound of tar in his or her lungs from 30 years or more of smoking.
So final verdict, safe or not?
What if your lungs have 30 years worth of smoking damage to them already, including the cilia, could the larger particles of silica that normally wouldn't be an issue cause a problem. Is it possible your lungs would not be able to expel it, causing maybe a different problem?
I have been using cartos for 2 years and I now know I will vape until the day I die, I will never go back to analogs. I am a little concerned that maybe 20-30 years of cartos may not be good and I am looking into alternative ways of vaping. I was thinking of trying an RBA using Silica but maybe SS mesh is a better option atm.
I feel silica exposure, however small, the type of atty makes a big difference, but no proof. My hornet RBA has much more exposed and loose wick. Where as my evod, allot less.
Thoughts?