So without much perciflage here is what I had happen to me Friday. I logged on to the Wicked site. Added up 93 dollars worth of goodies into my basket and headed for check out. The checkout site took my card number and other info. It went to" a contacting the card company screen" and then went back to another screen and it said please wait and if this takes more than 10 minutes it will time out. I waited 10 minutes and it timed out and took me back to the wicked site and in big red letters it said the checkout had timed out because I didn't give the checkout the right amount of info. So I tried it again. And waited 10 minutes again. Then it went back to the site and gave me the same info that I had indeed timed out. Well enough of that! I went back and emptied out my cart and cancelled the order and rolled to another company for my supplies. It was there that I discovered that I had indeed paid wicked two times. So without my email getting an invoice or anything. But I did get an email when I cancelled my order. Well I called Visa and the gum popper on the other end told me to take it up with Wicked ....ok can do. I called them and they were closed for the weekend so I fired off an email asking why I never got a conformation email on my order if I did indeed pay for it and why it kept asking me to pay for my items when I had already paid for those items. And please fix your site before it causes other people to tie up 200 bucks. And so on. Maybe I wasn't really nice about it, but I was lengthy. Needless to say I haven't heard anything about my billing issue and my money that was going to be used on vaping supplies is now tied up with Wicked. So I started looking around and found another billing issue happening by another person and they had used partner@wicked (ect) and had a reply from that email. I sent them a much nicer and not so lengthy mail explaining the whole problem and to please refund my money so I can get my stuff. But still nothing from them. I saw where they used to have a live chat but have since shut it down. I know that some sites use 3rd party hosting for their CC orders and stuff, but if they use that excuse for what happened I may lose my mind. If the kid at the burger joint spits on your burger it is the kids fault and they just so happen to be working for the burger joint...So it is the burger joint that needs to fix the problem. Maybe that was a bad comparison and a disgusting comparison but you get my drift. I guess I am steamed about this and was just expected someone to be checking some sort of mail from there. Then to TOP IT OFF! I got an email today around four PM telling me that THEY had cancelled my order because I didn't pay for it. Now now now Wicked your HAL 2000 has went bananas or something because I cancelled that order last night and.....nevermind you are a automated email doo hickey so I guess I will send yet another email in a vain attempt to catch Pedro working the night shift at Wicked and maybe just maybe. But nothing has arrived. I have bought from them before back in O9 but that was only for some e-liquid that was supposed to be the strongest or something. It was alright but tasted kind of like sasquatch droppings. And I do remember that it took a while to get my order but I have never had problems like this with anyone. But when you buy something from Wicked they hit you with the spam and I guess it worked on me because I went back to them and wish I hadn't at the moment. So much for the lacking of persiflage. Has anyone had problems like this with them? I have also seen on a their own forum where they urged someone not to use visa for their first order. Does someone know where they hang out so I can go get my money all Ike Turner style? And I know people loooove Wicked and I am not flaming them at all. Just wanted to get some help or maybe an email of someone who could clean this up for me so I can get my supplies before I am forced to drink my liquid. We maybe I would never go that far. But I would dig some help.