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  1. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    Thats a new topic and wasnt asked here till now...feel free to start a thread...:tongue:
  2. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    We arent as far apart as we might have thought...lol...I agree with you....also, I dont like the brand logo on cloned stuff either....its one thing to copy a design...its another to blatantly use a company's logo on it....everyone knows it isnt authentic when they buy it so there's no good...
  3. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    What I meant was that the OP started the thread concerning buying American stuff vs foreign stuff...my comparison was based on that, not American cars vs American cars...now read it again...makes more sense, right?
  4. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    I would too....if its billed as a brand and it isnt, theres a problem...
  5. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    It's ALL opinion...the entire thread...lol
  6. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    Actually, it was started as more of "I only buy American stuff and here's why" thread...I don't recall anyone saying anyone should buy clones...just that they do...and why... Chevy vs Ford isn't really applicable...they are both American models....Hyundai vs Chevy or BMW vs Cadillac would be a...
  7. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    I do disagree...clearly....its only a valid point till it reaches the end of his wallet....its much more of an entitled opinion to think that high priced manufacturers should be the only option for a consumer and if you cant afford that, you should go without...because some guy I never met says...
  8. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    I bought my Vamo from an American vendor as well...most of my stuff was bought from American vendors...I will continue to do so unless they are priced WAY above foreign vendors...and if they are, I like having the option of buying elsewhere at a more reasonable price.
  9. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    That makes no sense...have a great day...
  10. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    I've seen that with the Vamo....my understanding is that they are produced by several Chinese manufacturers...mine is stainless (I think it was KDS made model) and came virtually flawless...well made and solid...some of my friends bought them and they have fit and finish issues and are kind of...
  11. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    We are going to have to...lol...Works for me...
  12. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    The only entitlement thinking I've seen is people thinking small business is entitled to charge higher prices as well as consumers thinking they are entitled to spend their hard earned cash as they see fit...both are right...and it works out as it works out... Someone deciding for someone else...
  13. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    Sure, but small business isnt doing me any favors by charging higher prices...they are trying to make a living for themselves...make money to spend on their families and their own stuff to buy for themselves. I do the same in my work...I make money and spend it on myself and my family...no one...
  14. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    You make a good point, but you are predicating this on what your budget can afford you and you aren't considering what other people's budgets can afford them. Some US vendors have priced themselves out of some people's budgets. Sure, some of the thinking is short term. But some people don't have...
  15. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    Everyone has their own interests in mind...I agree with what you're saying, but consumers have their own interests in mind too...and it often starts and ends at their wallet...for example, set pricing for an Innokin 134 at $169 bucks? That is ridiculous. It's not even an American made mod...
  16. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    Only if I absolutely have to have it and cant sleep without getting it!....LOL
  17. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    I may have come off a bit strong with my initial reply, but I didn't really mean to sound as bad as it may have. It's just that this has been discussed over and over, ad nauseum...between places like Joyetech and Innokin engaging price setting policy and blacklisting vendors who try to sell at a...
  18. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    HAHAHAHA......I just spit coffee on my keyboard....lol
  19. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    I cringe when I see a mod for sale for twice its original price. Then I realize that this is a hobby to a lot of folks, like trading cards or anything else that is considered collectible, and that highly sought after items go for whatever someone who just has to have one will pay for it...it...
  20. Spike64

    I refuse to buy clones or fakes. Anyone else?

    Go right ahead...it's your money....my money is mine and I spend it as I see fit, not as you think I should...frankly, it's really none of your concern...don't mark up mods 1000 percent and they might get some of my money....the fact is that many of the expensive mods are put up for sale by...
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