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So I'm sitting herein Frankfurt Airport, wait for a Lufthansa plane to take me home and it will be boarding two hours late. What ever happened to Deutsche Pünktlichkeit?

Anyway, I've been here for a bit over a week. This time, I didn't bring any of my good (dibi and CeeCee) mods because none of them are TPD compliant, and I didn't want to risk them being confiscated by customs on the way in here. Instead, I'd picked up a couple of Aspire Breeze things (I refuse to call them "mods") for cheap ($15 each). They're a surprisingly decent MTL vape.

Knowing I'd be standing in a tradeshow booth for much of the week and thus unable to vape as regularly as I'm accustomed to, I also picked up some 36 mg salt liquid. At 70% PG, that stuff makes for a dandy stealth vape too. However, it's death on coils. I've yet to make it through an entire 2ml fill up on a Breeze before the coils used with the salt liquid started to produce a burnt taste. However, the unit I've been using with my regular unflavored liquid (65 VG, 13 nic) is just fine after 20+ ml through it.

Last couple of days I've been cutting the nic salt juice half and half with my usual unflavored. Of course it's not as stealthy and doesn't pack quite the punch, but I like that much better than the 70% PG salt.

Oh, and this airport has has a couple of smoking lounges in the 'Z' concourse, which make the extra wait somewhat less painful. Of course they stink to high heaven, so I run in for a couple of drags every once in a while and the get out as fast as possible.

All that said, I really miss my l'il pinches. My son will be picking me up from PHL later and he's under strict orders to bring my walnut pinch with him. :)
Really glad they worked out for you! I can't imagine turning (like the bee) to them as a go to but they sure do the job when the good stuff's not available.
 

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the delay thing is why you drive between florida and winter house, right? or am i remembering wrong?
No, I just plain detest flying, at least as a passenger on a commercial airliner, and my wife feels even more strongly about it than I do. But it's not possible to drive to Europe.
 
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Really glad they worked out for you! I can't imagine turning (like the bee) to them as a go to but they sure do the job when the good stuff's not available.

well, I couldn't turn to the mi-pod as a go-to, even if I wanted to.
turns out the wire is Nichrome, and that don't jive with my Nickel Sensitivity/Intolerance.
I can use it in spurts (like, on the job site) without reactions; but not all the time.

that, in part, is why I started fiddling with adapting my customizable vapes to salty.
there's a lot that I like about the "small footprint" (t-puff) vapes, and I kind of missed the simplicity and directness, and some of the character of MTL.
with the adapted Pinch style (wee atty, small air, my own coil profile), I'm actually finding that I've got something better (more personalized) than any pod could offer. with the Mundy Fila-Pinch, I've got a mod that's barely bigger than many pods (with triple+ juice and battery capacity). with my own salt-mixin's (if that works), I'll have full control over all that jazz too (and, with the use of "classic" rba/rbfa atty tech, I can have free reign over PG/VG ratios to boot).
 

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However, it's death on coils. I've yet to make it through an entire 2ml fill up on a Breeze before the coils used with the salt liquid started to produce a burnt taste.

yeah, I too notice coils gunking, getting singe-y, quicker.
with the simple coils in the old-school rbfa tho, I think I won't mind pulling wick and dry-burning more often.
and these single roundwire coils in something like the Divo are pretty dang easy to spin up and swap.

. . . we'll see.
 

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. . . also, I was going to try this other thing with the pods and the gunking/burny-flavor . . .

I'd noticed, with the regular coils (in past), that running/vaping a lap of unflavored goes a long way to cleaning up wick and coil (wet-cleaning?). I was going to run some unflavored salt juice through a pod after it got a bit gunky, and see if that doesn't extend it's viability. I did pick up 120mL of 48mg salts from NN, and have done a bit of mixing with that already; but haven't gotten around to running unflavored through a gunky pod yet. It would certainly be worth the while to see what elements are doing the gunking (flavors, PG, or pH). So, I'll probably also want to run some unflavored salts in a fresh pod too, for comparison.
 
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. . . also, I was going to try this other thing with the pods and the gunking/burny-flavor . . .

I'd noticed, with the regular coils (in past), that running/vaping a lap of unflavored goes a long way to cleaning up wick and coil (wet-cleaning?). I was going to run some unflavored salt juice through a pod after it got a bit gunky, and see if that doesn't extend it's viability. I did pick up 120mL of 48mg salts from NN, and have done a bit of mixing with that already; but haven't gotten around to running unflavored through a gunky pod yet. It would certainly be worth the while to see what elements are doing the gunking (flavors, PG, or pH). So, I'll probably also want to run some unflavored salts in a fresh pod too, for comparison.
I'm not convinced it's the flavors. I have two, a "lime soda" and a "mango". Both were totally clear, and neither is particularly sweet or over-flavored in the way that I remember many commercial liquids being in years gone by. Right now, my gut says it's the protonated nic itself, but of course I have no idea what type of acid this vendor used, and I suspect that might make a difference.
 

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hmmm . .. I was just curious about something.

looks like (whereas 1L of water weighs 1kg):
VG (1L) weighs about 1.26kg (according to the all-knowing 'puter)
PG (1L) weighs about 0.96kg (looks like . ..)


point being, I don't want to just be all like using the "mL" feature on the new scale*.
. . . or/conversely . .. I do, but all mathy-like-wise n'stuff.


*hadn't intended to, when purchasing, but then got to playing with it.

ADDIT: oopie . . . just realized, the "mL" feature on the new scale is just a name game trickery for working by weight instead of volume. (meaning to say, with the metric, I may as well just weigh out 96mg of PG to match 126mg of VG, and skip the faux convenience) . . . or am I being dense? (Ohhhhhh! . . . Density! add that into the Weight and Volume thing, and it's a party!)
 
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Just while on pods...

Mum has the breeze 2, and gets along well with it. Seems to have AFC capable of either mto or rdl. She changes inhales through the day.

And she independently asks for coil changes now. Granted she calls them "those battery things", but she can recognise the need. And she refills herself.

Dual using a bit. But has switched enough to make a big difference
 

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Just while on pods...

Mum has the breeze 2, and gets along well with it. Seems to have AFC capable of either mto or rdl. She changes inhales through the day.

And she independently asks for coil changes now. Granted she calls them "those battery things", but she can recognise the need. And she refills herself.

Dual using a bit. But has switched enough to make a big difference
That's excellent. Has she cut out more cigarettes as time goes on or is it staying about the same? I threw mine in the trash the first day of vaping to give it a real chance and don't know if I would have quit entirely if I hadn't. Still wanted to go buy some for a couple of months though. Still have dreams that I'm smoking too.
 

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That's excellent. Has she cut out more cigarettes as time goes on or is it staying about the same? I threw mine in the trash the first day of vaping to give it a real chance and don't know if I would have quit entirely if I hadn't. Still wanted to go buy some for a couple of months though. Still have dreams that I'm smoking too.

i don't think it is that linear

good days and bad days

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It's so nice to be back, and I'm so glad to be vaping my l'il pinches again. :)

It's not that those Breeze things aren't an acceptable vape. I had zero urge to smoke, so they're OK in that respect. By they aren't my vape. And then there's the capacity issue. 2ml and under 1000 mAh doesn't cut it for me on a normal day, where I'm not stuck in a trade-show booth. Yes, I stealth vaped some in the booth (that's what the 36mg 70PG juice was for), but on the recovery day (after the show closed, before we flew home), the capacity limitation on the one I had my regular 13 mg 65VG juice in was painfully obvious. All that said, if someone asked me what they should get as a starter device, I'd probably recommend it.
 

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I just vaped my own salts. :|

(is that decent? . . .. can I say that? o_O )

All-in-all, good stuff, good times.

Couple things, it was indeed difficult to fully dissolve 7.5g of B.A. into ~123g of VG (123 because . .. whatever . . . details). In fact, I had a few wee lumpies left after more than 1/2 an hour of "cooking" and stirring (sometimes).
So, I just said, what the heck, and strained it into the nic in PG. Based on the volume that 7.5g represented, I'm guessing I lost, at most, a couple tenths of a gram (as wee lumps left in the strainer). So, def. well over 70g of B.A. into the 100g of nic.

And then what do you think I did? :?:

Well, crap :sleep:, you know I had to vape a bit straight away! :lol:

I cut a few mL of the 50mg down to about 35mg/mL with some VG, and dripped it into one of my salt squonkers.
The flavor was pretty dang clean! (yay!). It was definitely tinged with a bit of an acidic/sharp twang; but completely pleasantly vapable (especially if one added a dash of flavoring).
I do believe that the mix could do with at least a modicum of steeping! :rolleyes: I mean, don'cha think?
So, I'll drip a bit more of the 5mL mini-batch that I made up some time tomorrow, and see what a few hours of co-mingle time does for that wee bit of acid twang.
Honestly, tho, the flavor of it, I could totally vape this unflavored as my ADV, as-is, no steep (this was mixed with the MFS nic that's been in the freezer since, like, 2015, and was clear and not yellowed at all, btw).

btw, I'm still alive, hence the typing. ;)
Will need days to ascertain whether there's any adverse effects (i.e. sore throat or that type of thing).

OH!, here's another thing. After my first couple of taster toots, and noticing the wee bit of acidity, I thought to compare it to the NN salts ("signature") that I'd gotten. So, I cut a bit of that (unflavored) with some VG, and tasted that too.
That also seems to have just the tiniest tinge of "sharpness". Less than my freshly mixed batch; but same general character.

And, as for process and "difficulty level" (for someone who's already comfortable with DIY e-juice) . .. . piece of cake. :)
Second time will be mindless simple.

oh, and one other thing: pro'ly, the only place where I'd wanted to be as accurate as I could be is in the nic % I ended up with. Just so I knew what I was working with in future (when mixing juice with it).
So, what I did (considering all the straining and residue on the cooking jar and whatnot) was put the nic-in-PG in it's jar on the scale, "tare", and then poured in my B.A./VG mix . . . and I saw that I netted 114 grams . . . so I topped off with straight VG to get it up to 125 grams (which is very much like 126g, only it's "one" different). So, that way I felt confident that I'd achieved something darn close to a 50mg/mL nic base.

good times :thumb:
 
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I just vaped my own salts. :|

(is that decent? . . .. can I say that? o_O )

All-in-all, good stuff, good times.

Couple things, it was indeed difficult to fully dissolve 7.5g of B.A. into ~123g of VG (123 because . .. whatever . . . details). In fact, I had a few wee lumpies left after more than 1/2 an hour of "cooking" and stirring (sometimes).
So, I just said, what the heck, and strained it into the nic in PG. Based on the volume that 7.5g represented, I'm guessing I lost, at most, a couple tenths of a gram (as wee lumps left in the strainer). So, def. well over 70g of B.A. into the 100g of nic.

And then what do you think I did? :?:

Well, crap :sleep:, you know I had to vape a bit straight away! :lol:

I cut a few mL of the 50mg down to about 35mg/mL with some VG, and dripped it into one of my salt squonkers.
The flavor was pretty dang clean! (yay!). It was definitely tinged with a bit of an acidic/sharp twang; but completely pleasantly vapable (especially if one added a dash of flavoring).
I do believe that the mix could do with at least a modicum of steeping! :rolleyes: I mean, don'cha think?
So, I'll drip a bit more of the 5mL mini-batch that I made up some time tomorrow, and see what a few hours of co-mingle time does for that wee bit of acid twang.
Honestly, tho, the flavor of it, I could totally vape this unflavored as my ADV, as-is, no steep (this was mixed with the MFS nic that's been in the freezer since, like, 2015, and was clear and not yellowed at all, btw).

btw, I'm still alive, hence the typing. ;)
Will need days to ascertain whether there's any adverse effects (i.e. sore throat or that type of thing).

OH!, here's another thing. After my first couple of taster toots, and noticing the wee bit of acidity, I thought to compare it to the NN salts ("signature") that I'd gotten. So, I cut a bit of that (unflavored) with some VG, and tasted that too.
That also seems to have just the tiniest tinge of "sharpness". Less than my freshly mixed batch; but same general character.

And, as for process and "difficulty level" (for someone who's already comfortable with DIY e-juice) . .. . piece of cake. :)
Second time will be mindless simple.

oh, and one other thing: pro'ly, the only place where I'd wanted to be as accurate as I could be is in the nic % I ended up with. Just so I knew what I was working with in future (when mixing juice with it).
So, what I did (considering all the straining and residue on the cooking jar and whatnot) was put the nic-in-PG in it's jar on the scale, "tare", and then poured in my B.A./VG mix . . . and I saw that I netted 114 grams . . . so I topped off with straight VG to get it up to 125 grams (which is very much like 126g, only it's "one" different). So, that way I felt confident that I'd achieved something darn close to a 50mg/mL nic base.

good times :thumb:
I really need some of your energy!
 

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yeah, so that tiny bit of acidity is still there today; but I think I figured that all out.
. . . perhaps it's got something to do with the fact that I dumped a heaping teaspoon of ACID into less than a cup of e-liquid :w00t: (ya think?)

Anyway, so there it is, a little bit "citric", tangy, whatevs. It does taste good to me just like that.

But, in the interest of progressing, I went ahead and flavored up (green orange) 10mL @ 32.5%, and am going (have started) to go ahead and vape thru that to get both a slightly deeper impression and to see if my hair turns red or something. (as I suspected, and indeedy I did . . . suspect) the bit of acidity/tang in the "base mix" actually works really well when it comes to flavoring. IMHO, it provides a "cleaner" slate for flavor, or at least enhances a flavor with the weensiest bit of a sharpness/brightness.

So, all good, vapin' on then.

Part of me still wants to try mixing a batch @ something closer to 60% benzoic; but I'm not sure I'll find a reason why I should. IDK. that's for later.
 

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have one of these coming #florisbox

lots of google

my last [delrin, sx450j] one went reasonably well

shame i need to cut my own squonk hole

also bought 2 [1 & backup] turnigy nano tech 3s 1500 mah lipos, and appropriate connectors

haven't ordered dna board yet, but given BLO finish plans, next payday will be plenty soon enough

on another note, has florence gone now? i don't know how long a hurricane lasts :?:
 
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