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Lessifer

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I think what it all gets down to is the use of the word Harmless.

Because I believe that the Vast Majority of People perceive that to mean Without Harm. Something that I don't think can be said to about Nicotine Use.

Many see vaping as Harm Reduction. Not Harm Elimination. And Nicotine in the Form that we ingest it as Much Less Harmful than via combustion of tobacco.

But Not without some Inherent Harm.
That's why I usually say "relatively harmless." I do believe that to be true, especially since whatever "inherent harm" might be there hasn't actually been proven.
 
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I don't really understand the fascination with vape tricks. They are not tricks. Big wow you can blow a cloud [emoji297]️ , Ooooo you can blow a vapor ring[emoji50].

We started smoking as kids to look cool and grown-up, and the by product of that is becoming addicted to nicotine and the sensation of smoking. Fortunately we all now know that smoking doesn't make you look cool or grown-up.

But for us idiots that started smoking in the first place we now have a healthier alternative and it stops smoking cigarettes.

My question is why start vaping for the sake of it, It ante gonna make you look cool or clever. And none of us really know the long-term affects of what we are vaping.

Don't get me wrong I love the hobbyist side of vaping, but there are many other hobbies out there you could get involved in that don't have hidden complications to your health.

Now before you all jump on me and tell be that it is none of my business then you would be totally right. But look at it this way, would you want your son or daughter to start vaping to give up cigarettes? Yes
Would you want your son or daughter to start vaping because they want to blow massive clouds? No

But each to their own I guess.

Good luck whatever you decide.



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Damn....could you be even more judgemental in regards to people who do things differently than you, or for different reasons. IMHO, you've got issues.
 
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That's why I usually say "relatively harmless." I do believe that to be true, especially since whatever "inherent harm" might be there hasn't actually been proven.

I could almost go with that for the mg amounts the Average Vaping ingests per day.

BTW - I haven't seen you in awhile so I Hope you had a Great Christmas.
 
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I could almost go with that for the mg amounts the Average Vaping ingests per day.

BTW - I haven't seen you in awhile so I Hope you had a Great Christmas.
You're right, the full CYA quote would be: Nicotine, consumed in the methods and amount of the average vaper, is relatively harmless to otherwise healthy individuals without extenuating circumstances.

Christmas was good, hope yours was as well :) Life in general is throwing me some curves, but what else is new, right?
 
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Christmas was good, hope yours was as well :) Life in general is throwing me some curves, but what else is new, right?

I hear you on the Curves thing. I lost a Friend right before Christmas. He dropped Dead from a Massive Heart Attack. No real warning. Just Bam, Gone.

I mean, that's the Way I want to go when the Time comes. But it kinda makes you Pause is when you start to Loose People that are Younger that you.

Anyway... If I don't see you, have a Great New Years. And All the Best to You and Yours in 2017.
 

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I hear you on the Curves thing. I lost a Friend right before Christmas. He dropped Dead from a Massive Heart Attack. No real warning. Just Bam, Gone.

I mean, that's the Way I want to go when the Time comes. But it kinda makes you Pause is when you start to Loose People that are Younger that you.

Anyway... If I don't see you, have a Great New Years. And All the Best to You and Yours in 2017.
That is always rough.

Hope you have a happy and safe New Years as well buddy!
 
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